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Numismatic Discussion => Coin Chit Chat => Topic started by: ausproofs on December 03, 2014, 08:18:39 PM

Title: WA Token
Post by: ausproofs on December 03, 2014, 08:18:39 PM
Hi guys,

Just received this today ... It was an impulse buy... but I like it... Anyone know more about these tokens? Any insights would be helpful.

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Title: RE: WA Token
Post by: Nightparrot on December 03, 2014, 09:18:57 PM
Quote from: 'ausproofs' pid='63234' dateline='1417600119'Hi guys,

Just received this today ... It was an impulse buy... but I like it... Anyone know more about these tokens? Any insights would be helpful.



If I'm not mistaken this one was sold by Heritage Auctions. They are reasonably common but not in that grade. They were minted to celebrate 100 years of the Swan River colony. I have a nice one as well with the original paper envelope (like the 1934/35 florin).
Title: RE: WA Token
Post by: robbiegal on December 03, 2014, 09:48:51 PM
original paper envelope
not I have never head of that birdie
Title: RE: WA Token
Post by: ausproofs on December 03, 2014, 09:54:21 PM
Quote from: 'Nightparrot' pid='63237' dateline='1417603737'
Quote from: 'ausproofs' pid='63234' dateline='1417600119'Hi guys,

Just received this today ... It was an impulse buy... but I like it... Anyone know more about these tokens? Any insights would be helpful.



If I'm not mistaken this one was sold by Heritage Auctions. They are reasonably common but not in that grade. They were minted to celebrate 100 years of the Swan River colony. I have a nice one as well with the original paper envelope (like the 1934/35 florin).

Yes, you are 100% correct....  its graded MS65... I liked the look, so bought it...  If you have the envelope, I am sure that would be worth something !

Thanks for your reply :wavemulticolor:
Title: RE: WA Token
Post by: Sapyx on December 03, 2014, 11:17:24 PM
They're "medals", not "tokens". Listed in the Carlisle medal catalogue as number C1929/2. Struck at Perth Mint, reverse designed by Kruger Gray, copper mintage 81,515, priced at $15 in VF-EF in the 2008 price guide.
Title: RE: WA Token
Post by: nealeffendi on December 03, 2014, 11:31:54 PM
Quote from: 'Nightparrot' pid='63237' dateline='1417603737'
Quote from: 'ausproofs' pid='63234' dateline='1417600119'Hi guys,

Just received this today ... It was an impulse buy... but I like it... Anyone know more about these tokens? Any insights would be helpful.



If I'm not mistaken this one was sold by Heritage Auctions. They are reasonably common but not in that grade. They were minted to celebrate 100 years of the Swan River colony. I have a nice one as well with the original paper envelope (like the 1934/35 florin).
Nightflorin, I'm involved with a group researching the 1934/35 florin and one of the things we want to know is who printed the Perth Foys bags. Is there any indication from your 1929 WA bag of who printed the bag and is there anything specific (font, type of paper, dimensions, manufacturing technique) to indicate if the same printer made both bags (1929 and 1935)
Title: RE: WA Token
Post by: ausproofs on December 04, 2014, 06:17:37 AM
Quote from: 'Sapyx' pid='63240' dateline='1417610844'They're "medals", not "tokens". Listed in the Carlisle medal catalogue as number C1929/2. Struck at Perth Mint, reverse designed by Kruger Gray, copper mintage 81,515, priced at $15 in VF-EF in the 2008 price guide.
Thank you Sapyx....I will try to find a catalogue to have a read...
Title: RE: WA Token
Post by: Nevol on December 04, 2014, 06:55:10 AM
I like it a lot, 'cos of the lovely birdie on it. :drooling:
Title: RE: WA Token
Post by: purplepennyhunter on December 04, 2014, 08:03:48 AM
This will help.

WA Numismatica (http://wanumismatica.org.au/centenary-and-sesquicentenary/1929-centenary-bronze-medal-with-envelope/)
Title: RE: WA Token
Post by: ausproofs on December 04, 2014, 09:23:34 AM
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='63245' dateline='1417642428'This will help.

WA Numismatica (http://wanumismatica.org.au/centenary-and-sesquicentenary/1929-centenary-bronze-medal-with-envelope/)

Thanks PP
Title: RE: WA Token
Post by: keldaw on December 04, 2014, 09:24:10 AM
you wont get better information than that ,.

 that is top info , for us all ,

 thanks pph .         ,, kel ,,
Title: RE: WA Token
Post by: nealeffendi on December 04, 2014, 09:29:07 AM
Thanks PP
So there are 2 different bags using different fonts and no indication as to the printer.
But I spotted something that nobody else has mentioned. The envelope with the prices mentions a limited number of cases available. What do the cases at 9d and 3 shillings look like?
Title: RE: WA Token
Post by: Nightparrot on December 04, 2014, 10:06:19 AM
Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='63241' dateline='1417611714'
Quote from: 'Nightparrot' pid='63237' dateline='1417603737'
Quote from: 'ausproofs' pid='63234' dateline='1417600119'Hi guys,

Just received this today ... It was an impulse buy... but I like it... Anyone know more about these tokens? Any insights would be helpful.



If I'm not mistaken this one was sold by Heritage Auctions. They are reasonably common but not in that grade. They were minted to celebrate 100 years of the Swan River colony. I have a nice one as well with the original paper envelope (like the 1934/35 florin).
Nightflorin, I'm involved with a group researching the 1934/35 florin and one of the things we want to know is who printed the Perth Foys bags. Is there any indication from your 1929 WA bag of who printed the bag and is there anything specific (font, type of paper, dimensions, manufacturing technique) to indicate if the same printer made both bags (1929 and 1935)

The link PP provided shows an image of the envelope....
Title: RE: WA Token
Post by: nealeffendi on December 04, 2014, 10:45:44 AM
I followed up with an email to Walter Bloom. The images seem to be the front of several different bags as there is no seams visible but the information on one of the bags (9d and 3s cases) is a great lead.
Title: RE: WA Token
Post by: Triggersmob on December 04, 2014, 09:53:07 PM
Thought you might be interested in this medal too. Celebrates the 175th Anniversary of W.A. and was issued to all school children. Unfortunately it was stuck on a card with double sided tape.

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10113/W_A__175th_Anniversary.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10113/W_A__175th_Anniversary_-_Reverse.jpg)
Title: RE: WA Token
Post by: ausproofs on December 04, 2014, 09:59:44 PM
Quote from: 'Triggersmob' pid='63255' dateline='1417692187'Thought you might be interested in this medal too. Celebrates the 175th Anniversary of W.A. and was issued to all school children. Unfortunately it was stuck on a card with double sided tape.

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10113/W_A__175th_Anniversary.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10113/W_A__175th_Anniversary_-_Reverse.jpg)

Nice looking medal too !!!!
Title: RE: WA Token
Post by: Nightparrot on December 05, 2014, 08:45:13 AM
Quote from: 'Triggersmob' pid='63255' dateline='1417692187'Thought you might be interested in this medal too. Celebrates the 175th Anniversary of W.A. and was issued to all school children. Unfortunately it was stuck on a card with double sided tape.

Nice, I've never seen that one before....