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Title: My one dollar collection.
Post by: interest on November 01, 2014, 11:28:34 PM
After reading My Dollar Colection by PP (http://www.australian-threepence.com/blog/2012/11/my-australian-one-dollar-coin-collection.html)
Got me to thinking about my own dollar collection.
This consists of only uncirculated 25mm Ali/Bronze coins no silver or proofs.
I would start the year by getting 10 each from each of the two press's in the mint gallery, then 10 from the heavy press but only one would go into the Dansco album.
From there it was a matter of getting ten from each of the mobile press's plus 2 mint 2 baby sets one to pull apart one to keep.
Had to have at least one coin, preferably ten coins from each & every event.
At the end of 2012 I got all the coins together in one place looked at them & went WOW!!! what have I done?
Since then I have only bought one's & sometimes up to five but only the mobile press coins.
My last album is only half way through 2013, I have all the coins released thus far but have not placed them into the album, there is just too many of them,
I think there is thirty six of the pad coloured coins, should I put them all together or keep them in the years they were released?
I used to scan each coin list in an excel spread sheet with photo plus price any other info that was relevant, but now I'm two years behind & I can't catch up, they don't bring me enjoyment anymore.
Paying up to $20 from the mint for a dollar coin gives me the poops.
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: runway on November 01, 2014, 11:54:58 PM
Quote from: 'interest' pid='61723' dateline='1414846714'After reading My Dollar Colection by PP (http://www.australian-threepence.com/blog/2012/11/my-australian-one-dollar-coin-collection.html)
Got me to thinking about my own dollar collection.
This consists of only uncirculated 25mm Ali/Bronze coins no silver or proofs.
I would start the year by getting 10 each from each of the two press's in the mint gallery, then 10 from the heavy press but only one would go into the Dansco album.
From there it was a matter of getting ten from each of the mobile press's plus 2 mint 2 baby sets one to pull apart one to keep.
Had to have at least one coin, preferably ten coins from each & every event.
At the end of 2012 I got all the coins together in one place looked at them & went WOW!!! what have I done?
Since then I have only bought one's & sometimes up to five but only the mobile press coins.
My last album is only half way through 2013, I have all the coins released thus far but have not placed them into the album, there is just too many of them,
I think there is thirty six of the pad coloured coins, should I put them all together or keep them in the years they were released?
I used to scan each coin list in an excel spread sheet with photo plus price any other info that was relevant, but now I'm two years behind & I can't catch up, they don't bring me enjoyment anymore.
Paying up to $20 from the mint for a dollar coin gives me the poops.
I concur with your thoughts Interest I hear you !!
No longer is a complete $1 al/br collection affordable nor enjoyable anymore.The Alphabet pad print coins done it for me :idea::dodgy:
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: purplepennyhunter on November 02, 2014, 11:41:39 AM
I am with you there. My collection ceases this year. I'm pretty sad about it really even though I know you can buy most of it later at half the cost so it's not worth it. And what with the RAM making us jump though hoops with some things having a dealer allocation and others not.
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: humpybong on November 02, 2014, 02:37:00 PM
Cannot agree more.......I gave up with the dollar coins a couple of years ago.

The RAM has spoilt it for us all.
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: Nevol on November 02, 2014, 02:58:57 PM
Quote from: 'humpybong' pid='61743' dateline='1414901220'Cannot agree more.......I gave up with the dollar coins a couple of years ago. The RAM has spoilt it for us all.
Me too!  :i_agree:

I only get 1 of the normal annual UNC set, plus what single coins I get from circulation.  No more buying multiples of a granny bait coin just because it has a 'different' letter stamped into it.   I'm totally over all that malarkey.

I also stopped buying PNC's a few years ago too.
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: purplepennyhunter on November 02, 2014, 03:50:59 PM
I have written some words in a blog article that I hope the RAM will read. If there's anyone happy for me to quote their own words or opinion I can add them with individual permission. Please pm me your permission and comments on this topic for inclusion.
If there turns out to be lots of comment I'll make it it's own article.

see here (http://www.australian-threepence.com/collecting-coins/mint-lost-collector/)
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: Goldseeker on November 02, 2014, 08:22:11 PM
I am sorry to hear such comments as "this is the end for me" and "no more".

I will continue to collect the 25mm UNC $1 coins till I give up coin collecting altogether or I run out of money.

Everyone to their own.
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: humpybong on November 02, 2014, 09:29:53 PM
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='61758' dateline='1414921931'I am sorry to hear such comments as "this is the end for me" and "no more".

I will continue to collect the 25mm UNC $1 coins till I give up coin collecting altogether or I run out of money.

Everyone to their own.


That's OK for you goldy.......you have got plenty.

:yahoo:
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: runway on November 03, 2014, 12:43:09 AM
The RAM visitor centre encourages "mint you're own dollar coin" with their 2 presses.
Costs $3 for the privilege
I've witnessed many visitors refusing to pay $3 for a $1 coin
Every $1 coin RAM sells in a card is NCLT with a minimum cost of $13
I now have no interest in buying this overpriced churn out anymore at issue price
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: purplepennyhunter on November 03, 2014, 07:11:06 AM
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='61758' dateline='1414921931'I am sorry to hear such comments as "this is the end for me" and "no more".

I will continue to collect the 25mm UNC $1 coins till I give up coin collecting altogether or I run out of money.

Everyone to their own.

Are you going to buy all 26 al br A-Z coins AND all 26 silver unc A-Z coins Goldy?????

($1170  + $351 (loose) or $3250 (in sets))
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: notcb on November 03, 2014, 04:06:04 PM
Hi,

Having been a coin, PNC and banknote collector since 1955 I have seen fads come and go, especially in the commemorative coin and PNC field.

Fortuitously, when the mint started on their $1 commemorative coins in 1986 with the International Year of Peace coin, I took the decision to stick solely with 50cent denomination coins and PNCs.

Until recently, there has been a reasonable number of 50 cent coins released each year - maybe a circulation C of A, a couple of commemoratives, maybe a gold 50cents (in a set) and 3 or 4 Perth Mint Lunar and bullion 1/2 oz silver coins with 50 cents denomination.

Exceptions[/i] being 2001  Federation, and 2006 Commonwealth games.

HOWEVER, this ANZAC /FIRST WORLD WAR thing is really pushing the boundaries as far as 50 cent commemoratives is concerned.

At last count I see at least 20 different 50 cent coins for 2015 alone.

It makes you really question how effective the business models for RAM and PM are with so many coins available.

Cheers

Peter (notcb)
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: nealeffendi on November 03, 2014, 05:01:07 PM
Totally O/T
Peter(notcb), if you have been collecting since 1955 then perhaps you might know the answer to a question that has been bugging me for years.
The Indian/English obverses only appear to be mentioned in publications from 1965 on. Do you recall any of the where/when/how/by whom you first found out about the 2 obverses? Possibly even the name/year of whoever first found the differences?
Dean wrote about them in his variety catalogue and wrote as though other collectors were already up to speed. So presumably it was common knowledge then. I've looked at old journals from the mid 1940s and 1950s at lists by eminent numismatists like Heyde and James Deacon-Hunt and they don't mention the 2 obverses.
Maybe other senior collectors also have reminisces on the early days?
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: coxspau on November 03, 2014, 05:06:10 PM
Side-stepping the obverse question, I was also greatly interested in a $1 type collection. I tried to keep up with the various mint marks, but for numerous reasons, I fell behind.

Once you start missing out on a few, it is too difficult and costly to catch up.

The RAM have taken something enjoyable and turned it into work. The irony is that I thought when I returned to Australia, collecting would be easier. But if anything, its harder.

Ever since I made the decision to stop collecting the tsunami of products that RAM produces, I've felt much better about it. The only issue I have now is what to do with all my NCLT. I don't really want to keep it, but I can't sell it for face value either. Maybe I'll time capsule it.
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: JeffH on November 03, 2014, 06:31:47 PM
All my one dollar collection (in fact all denominations of my decimals) is what I find in change/noodling. Includes NCLT coins and it all fits easily in a single album.

I might be what you could call a "reactionary" collector!
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: purplepennyhunter on November 03, 2014, 06:35:42 PM
Quote from: 'coxspau' pid='61798' dateline='1414996570'I tried to keep up with the various mint marks, but for numerous reasons, I fell behind.

Once you start missing out on a few, it is too difficult and costly to catch up.

The RAM have taken something enjoyable and turned it into work. The irony is that I thought when I returned to Australia, collecting would be easier. But if anything, its harder.

Ever since I made the decision to stop collecting the tsunami of products that RAM produces, I've felt much better about it. The only issue I have now is what to do with all my NCLT. I don't really want to keep it, but I can't sell it for face value either. Maybe I'll time capsule it.

I like your words coxpau, may I quote you on the Blog (http://www.australian-threepence.com/collecting-coins/mint-lost-collector/)?


Thank you to those who have PM'd me. I'll endeavour to get something up soon with your comments.
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: notcb on November 03, 2014, 08:30:39 PM
Neal,

I seem to remember reading about it in one of the very early Australian Coin Review magazines - probably around 1964/5.

But there were other journal/newsletters from individual state societies earlier than that - maybe it was mentioned there.

I wasn't a member, but the Numismatic Association of Victoria may have copies of some of their newsletters of that time.

The Australian Numismatist and its newsletter before it were published from 1946 onwards and is still available at the State Library of Victoria if you are interested.  Not sure where you are, but if in another state, it may be possible to do an inter library loan.

You never know, there may be someone on this forum that still has the newletters/magazine in their possession.

In the back of my mind - wasn't it someone in South Australia that made the discovery?  There was a South Australian Numismatic Society from early on.

Not sure if you have seen the following link:

http://www.cruzis-coins.com/Grading/sanj.html

Cheers

Peter  (notcb)
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: nealeffendi on November 03, 2014, 08:41:25 PM
I've had a fair scan through SANJ before and found nothing there. The first ACR did mention English/Indian (I have a copy) but that is still the 1964/65 period of Deans catalogue.The NAV is probably the only place I've still to look for written records as the Mitchell Library has just about everything else published from that period.
Peter, were you aware of the English/Indian varieties before Dean or ACR or do you recall if they were your first awareness?
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: kchan1111 on November 03, 2014, 10:06:49 PM
Quote from: 'notcb' pid='61795' dateline='1414992964'Fortuitously, when the mint started on their $1 commemorative coins in 1986 with the International Year of Peace coin, I took the decision to stick solely with 50cent denomination coins and PNCs.

Until recently, there has been a reasonable number of 50 cent coins released each year - maybe a circulation C of A, a couple of commemoratives, maybe a gold 50cents (in a set) and 3 or 4 Perth Mint Lunar and bullion 1/2 oz silver coins with 50 cents denomination.

Exceptions[/i] being 2001  Federation, and 2006 Commonwealth games.

HOWEVER, this ANZAC /FIRST WORLD WAR thing is really pushing the boundaries as far as 50 cent commemoratives is concerned.

At last count I see at least 20 different 50 cent coins for 2015 alone.

Hey I am into 50c too. :) I have the Federation set and the Jubilee coronation. Thought the Australia At War designs are great so I am going to get those. I don't have any criteria whatsoever. I just get what I think is nice. :yahoo: I thought the 2013 Bathurst Endurance Race 50c look kind of terrible so I am not wasting money on that one.

As a collector, is it important to define a set of objective criteria and stick to it?

My rule is: 50c that I think is nice. :P

Am I making a beginner's mistake by not collecting every 50c? Does having a complete set increases its value?

Having read the many posts here I had decided right from the start to stay away from $1 coins. Except for the 2014 mint rolls and Sydney ANDA show one. I have the silver high relief mob of roos - again, no reason other than I think it's nice.

I am trying to collect a complete florin set though.
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: Goldseeker on November 03, 2014, 10:08:31 PM
I will b e buying the various Mint Sets to get all the various $1 and 50c c0ins plus I will be buying the 26 Alphabet Alum-Br coins.

After having ordered a full set of the silver alphabet coins, I am going to cancel the order.   If those coins were all PROOF, then I would have to buy them to maintain my full/complete collection.

Yes, the RAM is putting out more and more coins as did the Aust Post, (and they still do) but I stopped the Mint Stamps to get into metal detecting.

I shall continue to collect/secure/chase etc Alum Br 25mm $1 coins until I give the game away.

I would be interesting to find out from those members who have decided to cease collecting the 25mm $1 coins, what are they going to do with their collections now?
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: trout on November 03, 2014, 10:12:28 PM
I don't mind getting 3-4 different 25mm dollar silver proofs each year but 26 of the buggers is stretching the imagination.
I have however been thinking of getting the 26 A-Z ali bronze coins because the designs are actually not that bad, Even though I think these will end up being as numismatically interesting as those bloody 28 Olympic $5 coin sets :angel:

I am on the fence with this at the moment But the wire is starting to sag a wee bit :P
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: notcb on November 03, 2014, 10:43:19 PM
Neal,

I reckon that would have been the first reference to the 1916 Mule - around 1965.   I know Andrew Crellin has written a summary of his thoughts on the matter.    http://www.sterlingcurrency.com.au/research/1916-mule-halfpenny-australias-rarest-commonwealth-coin

but as you say, it seems strange that from the time of announcing the find in July 1965, there was already several others found and auctioned by December of that same year.  You wonder why others hadn't observed the mule before.

Mind you, the same thing happened with the 2000 $1 mule - it took several years to be identified.

*************************
kchan1111, collect what you like, collect what you feel is within your financial capabilities.   The monetary value of my collection is really irrelevant.  

In the case of the 50 cent coin, there are very few that will generate more value than what was paid for them.
The exceptions would be some of the gold 50 cent coins, the 1969 specimen strike, the 2000 incuse and some of the lunar 1/2 ounce coins.   The 2008 series I Proof Lunar rabbit (the rarest 50 cent legal tender coin so far with 277 mintage) is now attracting $500 plus.

Cheers
Peter (notcb)
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: kchan1111 on November 03, 2014, 11:01:07 PM
Quote from: 'notcb' pid='61833' dateline='1415016799'In the case of the 50 cent coin, there are very few that will generate more value than what was paid for them.
The exceptions would be some of the gold 50 cent coins, the 1969 specimen strike, the 2000 incuse and some of the lunar 1/2 ounce coins.   The 2008 series I Proof Lunar rabbit (the rarest 50 cent legal tender coin so far with 277 mintage) is now attracting $500 plus.

Cheers
Peter (notcb)

I figured that as much. Downies had a sale on last Friday and it is evident from the large table packed with all these commemorative $1 coins on fire sale that they are a bad investment. :dodgy:
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: nealeffendi on November 03, 2014, 11:46:42 PM
Kchan,I was in Downies today (Monday) and the tables are still groaning.
I went past them and got a 2015 $1 kookaburra for $27. Nicer looking, lots bigger (an ounce) and at only $7 over current (low) spot I figure the price won't fall as much as all that stuff on the table.
I'm wondering if a chunk of that table stuff will end up in circulation at face value.
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: trout on November 04, 2014, 05:22:53 PM
QuoteKchan,I was in Downies today (Monday) and the tables are still groaning.
I would love the opportunity to see something like that and "Cherry Pick" the better graded coins.
Most decimal NCLT coins are lucky to get a MS66-67 Grade, I would love to pull out the 68 and above coins ( that's if they are still in there).
Ever since the A-Z coins were out there everyone is "Bailing" on decimals :stop:
I and a lot of other collectors are very angry about the obvious usury of collectors  by RAM and are thinking with our Hearts and not our heads.
At the end of the day this A-Z set may become a rarity simply because the RAM has disenchanted so many collectors and they are "Voting with their Feet" and refusing to get them.
I for one last week would have flatly refused to get these simply because of the open greed displayed by the mint.
Having settled down a bit and actually looked at the designs I decided  "Bugger it" I WILL get them.
I have sent an email to RAM with my concerns and have offered to send them a Pineapple to be used appropriately if this sort of thing happens again :diablo::)
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: colour on November 04, 2014, 05:56:06 PM
Dontyajustlovaussiedescrips.

Quoteand have offered to send them a Pineapple to be used appropriately if this sort of thing happens again
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: kchan1111 on November 04, 2014, 09:03:51 PM
Someone on a previous post suggested that the letters of less popular names might be a good idea to get. I've tried to work this out through the magic of Excel.

Baby Names 2014 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17qMP2rJZgUA16aFuLd9wfavtt1NaEizXhxkKFHyo638/edit?usp=sharing)

The least popular letters appears to be Q, U and Y.

The top 100 boy and girl names data was from http://www.mccrindle.com.au/the-mccrindle-blog/australias-top-baby-names-2014-revealed (http://www.mccrindle.com.au/the-mccrindle-blog/australias-top-baby-names-2014-revealed)

Only catch is the top 100 represents just 40%. So there is an assumption here that the other 60% is randomly distributed which is probably not true. Nevertheless it is a hint.
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: robbiegal on November 04, 2014, 09:07:11 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='61870' dateline='1415083973'
QuoteKchan,I was in Downies today (Monday) and the tables are still groaning.
I would love the opportunity to see something like that and "Cherry Pick" the better graded coins.
Most decimal NCLT coins are lucky to get a MS66-67 Grade, I would love to pull out the 68 and above coins ( that's if they are still in there).
Ever since the A-Z coins were out there everyone is "Bailing" on decimals :stop:
I and a lot of other collectors are very angry about the obvious usury of collectors  by RAM and are thinking with our Hearts and not our heads.
At the end of the day this A-Z set may become a rarity simply because the RAM has disenchanted so many collectors and they are "Voting with their Feet" and refusing to get them.
I for one last week would have flatly refused to get these simply because of the open greed displayed by the mint.
Having settled down a bit and actually looked at the designs I decided  "Bugger it" I WILL get them.
I have sent an email to RAM with my concerns and have offered to send them a Pineapple to be used appropriately if this sort of thing happens again :diablo::)

you won't regret it
the coins are beautiful - very artistic  - I was looking at a few on Sunday
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: kchan1111 on November 04, 2014, 09:15:07 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='61896' dateline='1415097431'you won't regret it
the coins are beautiful - very artistic  - I was looking at a few on Sunday

Hey RG, is there a complete list of all 26 designs? All I see is A and Z on RAM website.
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: trout on November 04, 2014, 09:24:52 PM
Quoteyou won't regret it
 the coins are beautiful - very artistic - I was looking at a few on Sunday

Cheers RG, I have seen a few of the designs, I liked them  and they will fit in nicely with my other pad printed 25mm dollar coins.
Just a bit pissed that they brought so many out at once.
6 per year was good for me , :ok:
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: triplewitch on November 04, 2014, 10:54:42 PM
Here are the pictures from Downies:
http://www.downies.com/Royal-Australian-Mint/Australia-2015-Alphabet-Al-Bronze-Colour-Uncirculated-Coins/214/catmenu.aspx
http://www.downies.com/Royal-Australian-Mint/Australia-2015-Alphabet-Colour-Silver-Coins/215/catmenu.aspx
Here's an explanation of the animals on them:
http://agaunews.com/portfolio-items/2015-alphabet-coin-collection-royal-australian-mint/
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: kchan1111 on November 04, 2014, 11:04:51 PM
Quote from: 'triplewitch' pid='61908' dateline='1415103882'Here are the pictures from Downies:
http://www.downies.com/Royal-Australian-Mint/Australia-2015-Alphabet-Al-Bronze-Colour-Uncirculated-Coins/214/catmenu.aspx
http://www.downies.com/Royal-Australian-Mint/Australia-2015-Alphabet-Colour-Silver-Coins/215/catmenu.aspx
Here's an explanation of the animals on them:
http://agaunews.com/portfolio-items/2015-alphabet-coin-collection-royal-australian-mint/

Oh cool thanks. Didn't notice the pattern around the rim also means something. well I've learnt what's a Xenica Butterfly. :P
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: Goldseeker on November 05, 2014, 08:55:49 PM
I went into town today to get my 2015 coin sets and the alphabet coins but left the alphabet coins there as the shop only had 15 of the 26 coins in store.

Have to go back later to get the lot, hopefully.

Oh yes, I cancelled the silver alphabet set.
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: runway on November 09, 2014, 12:46:34 AM
$50 a pop for the 26 letters of the alphabet silver set.
$15 a pop for the 26 letters of the alphabet al/br set
They are nice coins but us collectors are not investors and it's a shame for us to not be able to afford to no longer continue to maintain a complete collection of anything :(
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: dreamcatcher on November 11, 2014, 11:21:20 AM
I have collected coins for around 30 years and have particularly enjoyed collecting Australian $1 and 50 cent coins. But over the last 10 years, obviously like several others on the forum, have been repulsed by the overwhelming number of collectable $1 coins in particular. The number of $1 coins released each year with meaningless designs and mintmarks has been blatant commercialism and spoiled the exercise for everyone. I have not bought a single item from the RAM since 2009 because I know the investment potential is close to zero and a loss high highly likely.

Having said all that I am strangely attracted to the new alphabet $1 coins haha. Did I just contradict myself? :)

They look great for kids!
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: trout on November 11, 2014, 06:59:36 PM
QuoteHaving said all that I am strangely attracted to the new alphabet $1 coins haha. Did I just contradict myself?

Me Too :angel:
I DID have a "Hissy Fit" when these first were announced these will make the number of 25mm dollar coins produced this year up in the eighties which is a HUGE mintage of different coins.

I will still get the 25mm silver proofs but NOT the ABC issue, That is just a bit too much.
The ali bronze ABC coins are affordable and I have ordered a set of them from RAM, I have worked too hard and for too long to dump the 25mm ali bronze dollars collection.
I let myself get behind for a few years and I had a hell of a time hunting down the coins I had missed.
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: interest on December 20, 2014, 10:51:52 PM
Since stating on this forum that my coin collecting has finished,
I have had lengthy discussions regarding this decision with a couple of mates who also dabble.
I have been talked into continuing until the end of 2016 two more years, which will take me up to the 50th Anniversary of the decimal system. Or if Lizzie falls off the perch.
With a caveat placed on this.
I will not be buying any coloured coins, I will only buy one of each mint mark.
 There is also the fact that there should be some (I hope) good ANZAC themed coins coming up.
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: runway on December 20, 2014, 10:59:52 PM
Quote from: 'interest' pid='63940' dateline='1419078112'Since stating on this forum that my coin collecting has finished,
I have had lengthy discussions regarding this decision with a couple of mates who also dabble.
I have been talked into continuing until the end of 2016 two more years, which will take me up to the 50th Anniversary of the decimal system. Or if Lizzie falls off the perch.
With a caveat placed on this.
I will not be buying any coloured coins, I will only buy one of each mint mark.
 There is also the fact that there should be some (I hope) good ANZAC themed coins coming up.
2015 Theme will sure be ANZAC :wavemulticolor:
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: purplepennyhunter on December 21, 2014, 01:49:17 PM
Not sure we can narrow the mintmark coin down anymore as they seem to be counterstamping anything! See this:

" $1 Copper, Aluminium and Nickel Coin – Mob of Roos Ampelmann Privymark
 
Reverse
A stylised representation of 5 kangaroos. The design includes an Amplemann privymark. The privymark is made up of a circle enclosing a stylised representation of a man wearing a hat, facing right and walking. The design also includes the inscription '1 DOLLAR'."
from the currency determination (http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/F2014L01422/Explanatory%20Statement/Text)

Off topic warning- also an interesting COA 50c Cmm mention in there too.

Now I had to google Amplemann, he's the guy that tells you to walk or not to walk across the road. Do I have that correct??
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: interest on December 21, 2014, 02:04:34 PM
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='63968' dateline='1419131957'Not sure we can narrow the mintmark coin down anymore as they seem to be counterstamping anything! See this:

" $1 Copper, Aluminium and Nickel Coin – Mob of Roos Ampelmann Privymark
 
Reverse
A stylised representation of 5 kangaroos. The design includes an Amplemann privymark. The privymark is made up of a circle enclosing a stylised representation of a man wearing a hat, facing right and walking. The design also includes the inscription '1 DOLLAR'."
from the currency determination (http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/F2014L01422/Explanatory%20Statement/Text)

Off topic warning- also an interesting COA 50c Cmm mention in there too.


Now I had to google Amplemann, he's the guy that tells you to walk or not to walk across the road. Do I have that correct??
There's going to be an extra 9 twenty cent pieces.
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: trout on December 21, 2014, 02:18:38 PM
Oh Gawd here we bloody go again :dash1:
I am seriously thinking of dumping the entire sets of Decimals except for the 1 and 2 cent coins because the buggers are not making these anymore :good:
I think I will be concentrating on Pre decimals , proclamation and my Indian oldies, at least there is a "Finite" number of these coins and I won't be held to the "Whim" of the mint anymore :yahoo:
as soon as my 26 ABC coins arrived and I was highly disappointed in the quality of them that was me done and dusted with dollars .

The 26 coins are still sitting on my other desk in saflips and I haven't even bothered to put them in my album yet, that is an indication of the distain I have for these NOW "Grannybait" coins.
Bugger the Mint they have become far worse than the Franklin mint ever was :dash1:
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: Nevol on December 21, 2014, 04:26:07 PM
QuoteBugger the Mint they have become far worse than the Franklin mint ever was
I have to agree.  I stopped all the Granny Bait some years ago and now only collect circulation coins.  These coloured $2 that are only being minted in dribs and drabs are also starting to p**s me off and I might also give them and any others like them the flick.
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: interest on December 21, 2014, 04:52:36 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='63971' dateline='1419133718'Oh Gawd here we bloody go again :dash1:
I am seriously thinking of dumping the entire sets of Decimals except for the 1 and 2 cent coins because the buggers are not making these anymore :good:
I think I will be concentrating on Pre decimals , proclamation and my Indian oldies, at least there is a "Finite" number of these coins and I won't be held to the "Whim" of the mint anymore :yahoo:
as soon as my 26 ABC coins arrived and I was highly disappointed in the quality of them that was me done and dusted with dollars .

The 26 coins are still sitting on my other desk in saflips and I haven't even bothered to put them in my album yet, that is an indication of the distain I have for these NOW "Grannybait" coins.
Bugger the Mint they have become far worse than the Franklin mint ever was :dash1:


Buggered if I know why you bought them in the first place.
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: trout on December 21, 2014, 05:20:37 PM
QuoteBuggered if I know why you bought them in the first place.
I got them because there were only a few minted each year and they were fun to collect.
The ABC debacle has forever soured that motive :ok:
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: interest on December 28, 2014, 11:00:49 PM
Quote from: 'interest' pid='63940' dateline='1419078112'Since stating on this forum that my coin collecting has finished,
I have had lengthy discussions regarding this decision with a couple of mates who also dabble.
I have been talked into continuing until the end of 2016 two more years, which will take me up to the 50th Anniversary of the decimal system. Or if Lizzie falls off the perch.
With a caveat placed on this.
I will not be buying any coloured coins, I will only buy one of each mint mark.
 There is also the fact that there should be some (I hope) good ANZAC themed coins coming up.

"The Queen's Era Is Drawing to an End as Prince Charles Assumes New Royal Duties."

Okay it's going to take a few years for a complete change over,
 it may coincide with the 50th Anniversary of Decimal currency in 2016.
Now that would suit my plans very well. An end to both at the same time.
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: 5 rubles on March 22, 2015, 06:10:47 PM
An old thread but interesting reading because i have collected 20c, 50c and $1 coins for a long time, that alphabet series I think was too much and thinking of ending my collecting at the end of 2015... what's next? a dollar coin for numbers 1 to 1000?
If I keep my collection for 20 years and start selling then they hopefully have appreciated enough to supplement my retirement for a few months.
And there is more... just on news that there will be a series of Legacy coins. bloody h****

20c and 50c had for many years only circulated types until the federation in 2001. it seems collectors are a serious business to RAM, they sell a 50 cent coin for $10... not bad profit. Even minting your own at the mint in Canberra is now $3.20 for a one dollar coin, only few years back it was $2.
I agree, there is just too many different $1 coins these days, it is not fun any more, more stressful i would say, You need to think about it as a business or an investment rather than a hobby.

perhaps I move back to pre decimals, at least the MINT cannot print new ones of those.
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: JeffH on March 22, 2015, 07:05:19 PM
Quoteperhaps I move back to pre decimals, at least the MINT cannot print new ones of those.
Don't bet on it -they still have a few dies.
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: runway on March 22, 2015, 10:54:19 PM
RAM has already restruck old coins which is a worry ie the 5 coin $1 coins in folder 1984 - 1992
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: 5 rubles on March 23, 2015, 07:40:53 AM
Maybe but they are not the old coins, those reprints belong to $1 collection.
I had a look at the values of Florins, they are not cheap either. I will start a new thread in the predecimal section about them as I am not familiar with them, I have a dozen excellent condition Florins so maybe that is something worth thinking of expanding.
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: Goldseeker on March 23, 2015, 11:32:48 PM
I will wait a couple of years and see the comments from those that have ceased to maintain there $1 coin collections.

Surely a "complete collection" is worth more than a partial collection?
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: runway on March 24, 2015, 12:09:23 AM
No collector would have the entire $1 coin in all formats and packaging variations
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: Goldseeker on March 24, 2015, 11:51:01 AM
Quote from: 'runway' pid='69573' dateline='1427117963'No collector would have the entire $1 coin in all formats and packaging variations

I wouldn't be so sure of that.

If we are talking about the 25mm, Alum Br coins only then I must be one that has a complete set.   Just coins as well as the packaging that still contain the coins.
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: purplepennyhunter on March 24, 2015, 01:49:25 PM
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='69583' dateline='1427160061'
Quote from: 'runway' pid='69573' dateline='1427117963'No collector would have the entire $1 coin in all formats and packaging variations

I wouldn't be so sure of that.

If we are talking about the 25mm, Alum Br coins only then I must be one that has a complete set.   Just coins as well as the packaging that still contain the coins.

Do you have the Australia Post coloured animal $1 cards? Let me see if I can find a pic.

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/weddell-seal.png)
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: Goldseeker on March 24, 2015, 03:08:54 PM
Never seen that one before.

OK, so I mis-read the part that says "in all formats".

But the one PPH pictured, is that an official packaging or a private packaging done by Australia Post to mark the release of the stamp.

If they are private packaging, I am not interested.
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: 5 rubles on March 24, 2015, 04:25:48 PM
Quote from: 'runway' pid='69573' dateline='1427117963'No collector would have the entire $1 coin in all formats and packaging variations

I believe that and this is why I think not may are going to buy a complete collection, only the ones that are missing so not having a complete year's collection does not really matter and many people collect different kinds of series like the mintmarks or privvy marks and not the "granny baits".
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: purplepennyhunter on March 24, 2015, 08:54:32 PM
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='69596' dateline='1427171934'Never seen that one before.

OK, so I mis-read the part that says "in all formats".

But the one PPH pictured, is that an official packaging or a private packaging done by Australia Post to mark the release of the stamp.

If they are private packaging, I am not interested.

They are official Australia Post issue. Definitely genuine. Have seen them in the stamp bulletins.
Title: RE: My one dollar collection.
Post by: runway on March 24, 2015, 11:52:10 PM
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='69583' dateline='1427160061'
Quote from: 'runway' pid='69573' dateline='1427117963'No collector would have the entire $1 coin in all formats and packaging variations

I wouldn't be so sure of that.

If we are talking about the 25mm, Alum Br coins only then I must be one that has a complete set.   Just coins as well as the packaging that still contain the coins.
A full list of every $1 coin in all formats would be a book in itself :wavemulticolor: