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Australian Coins, Banknotes and Exonumia => Australian Pre-Decimal Coins => Topic started by: autocoupler on October 28, 2014, 01:55:42 PM

Title: Another proclamation
Post by: autocoupler on October 28, 2014, 01:55:42 PM
Did anyone read the article in CAB mag. about a recent find in Hobart. The coin was a 8 reales from Peru dated 1831, and apparently is proof that these later coins from South America circulated as legal tender during the 1830's in Tasmania.

 The article also highlighted a Proclamation by Governor Arthor in 1834 stating that due to a scarcity of coin in the colony, later mintages from Peru, Guatamala etc. be recognised to circulate along side other legal coinage. May even be considered a relevant axtension to the original proclamation of 1800.

Don't quite know what was so revealing about the discovery of this coin if knowledge of the proclamation of 1834 was already out there.
 
Anyhow, it sure makes for something else to hunt for. Yippee, just snavelled one on ebay dated 1833. :yahoo:
Title: RE: Another proclamation
Post by: trout on October 28, 2014, 03:00:53 PM
That is interesting :good:
I only started collecting these Proclamation coins about a year ago with absolutely no idea of what was what.
The more I learn about these coin types the more there is to collect.
A Most interesting era to collect and IMHO far more interesting than the Pre decimals :dance2::dance:
Title: RE: Another proclamation
Post by: Goldseeker on October 28, 2014, 07:16:54 PM
Let me know when you have a Holey Dollar and Dump please...........,
Title: RE: Another proclamation
Post by: trout on October 28, 2014, 07:25:55 PM
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='61512' dateline='1414486014'Let me know when you have a Holey Dollar and Dump please...........,

They are WAY too rich for my situation :dash1:
Title: RE: Another proclamation
Post by: serial on October 28, 2014, 08:15:38 PM
here are mine :P
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/PA280272.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/PA280271.JPG)

came in a set
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/PA280270.JPG)
Title: RE: Another proclamation
Post by: trout on October 28, 2014, 08:41:19 PM
Well Done Adam :drooling:

BTW your images are crap, Better send the coins to me so I can get some good images for Ya :diablo: :)
Title: RE: Another proclamation
Post by: serial on October 28, 2014, 09:25:21 PM
lol I only took it out to take a quick pic. it obviously not real its one of those "official" facsimile one sided sets
happy to do a swapsie when you are in town if you want it :)
Title: RE: Another proclamation
Post by: trout on October 28, 2014, 09:44:58 PM
Quote from: 'serial' pid='61517' dateline='1414493721'lol I only took it out to take a quick pic. it obviously not real its one of those "official" facsimile one sided sets
happy to do a swapsie when you are in town if you want it :)

Bugger, if they were real I would do a "swapsie" for a lung or a kidney .
How about a few toenail clippings for them :diablo::laugh2:
Title: RE: Another proclamation
Post by: serial on October 28, 2014, 10:49:53 PM
at your age I thought you would be looking for a new lung/kidney, I think you would be lucky to get a round fiddey for organs with your mileage :P
I got them in a bulk lot and love to handle them and pretend they are the real deal. then I wake up
Title: RE: Another proclamation
Post by: autocoupler on October 28, 2014, 11:00:20 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='61507' dateline='1414470653'A Most interesting era to collect and IMHO far more interesting than the Pre decimals :dance2::dance:

Hmm...this is just me talking, but to stumble onto a dot above bottom scroll London obverse 1920 penny would be pretty darn interesting. I'm thinking nearly as rare as the 1916 halfpenny mule :blink: and I bet many times rarer than the 1930 penny. But yep, the proclamation series are tops.
 
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='61512' dateline='1414486014'Let me know when you have a Holey Dollar and Dump please...........,

Strictly speaking, they are Colonial coins, not part of the 1800 proclamation even though the Spanish dollar was. Having said that, would love to own one of each but resigned to never achieving that. As trout said, way too rich for the pockets.
Title: RE: Another proclamation
Post by: Samhill on October 29, 2014, 02:22:27 PM
Difficult choice weather to get this.

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Entry level dump that I could afford.
I maybe could have gotten one at a lower price with patience but I'm happy with my purchase.

It was on eric's site and had a look at it at the ANDA show and decided to bite the bullet.

Always wanted one and this was a good way of getting one,The only one slabbed so far.:yahoo:

Tried to post larger pics but had a error message saying there was a 200kb limit.Click on pics and they come up a bit larger.
Title: RE: Another proclamation
Post by: autocoupler on October 29, 2014, 03:15:02 PM
Quote from: 'Samhill' pid='61543' dateline='1414554747'Difficult choice weather to get this.
Entry level dump that I could afford.

Very nice to have. Now aim high for the big one!!
Title: RE: Another proclamation
Post by: Samhill on October 29, 2014, 04:48:51 PM
Quote from: 'autocoupler' pid='61546' dateline='1414557902'
Quote from: 'Samhill' pid='61543' dateline='1414554747'Difficult choice weather to get this.
Entry level dump that I could afford.

Very nice to have. Now aim high for the big one!!

I wish, but out of my price range.

I'm now interested in getting some proclamation coins that I can afford to go with it.
First step- Andrews book and info provided by members here
Title: RE: Another proclamation
Post by: nealeffendi on October 29, 2014, 05:00:17 PM
Did someone say 1920 penny:heart: About 18 Dot Above English known (I have a few:yahoo:) so they outnumber the mules and the 1930 English.
I'd hate to collect the dollar and dump, too many different die pairs and every one beyond my means.
Title: RE: Another proclamation
Post by: stevo1962 on October 29, 2014, 05:25:14 PM
Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='61550' dateline='1414564217'Did someone say 1920 penny:heart: About 18 Dot Above English known (I have a few:yahoo:) so they outnumber the mules and the 1930 English.
I'd hate to collect the dollar and dump, too many different die pairs and every one beyond my means.

I had to check mine but damn its a dot above top scroll Indian
which I recently got slabbed  http://www.pcgs.com/Cert/30435133.html
Title: RE: Another proclamation
Post by: Nightparrot on October 29, 2014, 07:22:45 PM
Quote from: 'Samhill' pid='61549' dateline='1414563531'
Quote from: 'autocoupler' pid='61546' dateline='1414557902'
Quote from: 'Samhill' pid='61543' dateline='1414554747'Difficult choice weather to get this.
Entry level dump that I could afford.

Very nice to have. Now aim high for the big one!!

I wish, but out of my price range.

I'm now interested in getting some proclamation coins that I can afford to go with it.
First step- Andrews book and info provided by members here

Have a look at the PCGS set registry for proclamation coins, give u something concrete to aim for......

http://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/composite.aspx?c=5283
Title: RE: Another proclamation
Post by: autocoupler on October 29, 2014, 08:11:58 PM
Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='61550' dateline='1414564217'Did someone say 1920 penny:heart: About 18 Dot Above English known (I have a few:yahoo:) so they outnumber the mules and the 1930 English.

The example used by Yourself and Fred in the CAB article must just about be the best known? :drooling:

Quote from: 'stevo1962' pid='61551' dateline='1414565714'I had to check mine but damn its a dot above top scroll Indian
which I recently got slabbed  http://www.pcgs.com/Cert/30435133.html

These seem so hard to get in higher grades. I notice there's one with part centre diamond in the Universal coin co auction, and estimated at $2000.

Just to keep it on topic, I'm putting most of my coveting on hold for the moment, on the prowl for a gold Mohur.
Title: RE: Another proclamation
Post by: nealeffendi on October 29, 2014, 08:18:34 PM
VF20, egad Stevo, you usually have so many nice wins to make me jealous, not that bottom of the pops coin. Also looks like another of their trainees took the (cropped) images.
Mind you, even a VF20 is still a pricey penny.
Edit to add, I doubt if even the best of mine will get past 30, they are just darn hard to find with even 6 pearls. I did see the listing for the Universal Coin, 2 grand is pretty steep for VF35.
Title: RE: Another proclamation
Post by: stevo1962 on October 29, 2014, 08:43:37 PM
Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='61559' dateline='1414576114'VF20, egad Stevo, you usually have so many nice wins to make me jealous, not that bottom of the pops coin. Also looks like another of their trainees took the (cropped) images.
Mind you, even a VF20 is still a pricey penny.

Just did it for the registry set and expected that grade so no surprises