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Title: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: Samhill on October 18, 2014, 10:44:53 PM
I was shown some pics of the new $1 coin set from RAM.Due out this year

26 yes 26 $1 25mm coloured coins with each letter of the alphabet.
Each one in a card like the bugs series but I believe will be released all at once.
Each coin has a different background with a large capitol letter in the foreground.

Was also informed that the baby sets will be supplied without the normal $1 coin and a alphabet dollar of your choice will have to be ordered from the mint or dealer to place in the set,included in the price of the set.( I think this is for the proof baby set) as the coin will be in a capsule.

Don't have any more details or prices.
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: Fulvio on October 18, 2014, 11:00:03 PM
You mean this?

(http://i.imgur.com/Mf5TQAL.png)
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: robbiegal on October 18, 2014, 11:12:48 PM
too cool
love it
F for flying fox?
and the all the kids will be going F for fly cause that's a Bat!! ha ha
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: Fulvio on October 18, 2014, 11:16:23 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='61077' dateline='1413636168'too cool
love it
F for flying fox?
and the all the kids will be going F for fly cause that's a Bat!! ha ha

Yup. Each letter is an animal. L Lyrebird, etc. There's a currency determination covering the second half of the alphabet. Can't find the first half.
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: interest on October 18, 2014, 11:27:59 PM
WTF......???
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: robbiegal on October 18, 2014, 11:33:43 PM
goovy
so,you could buy your name in coins and ...... pop them in a folder that you never look at

I'll be buying an A for Ariana - my grandie
and a G for Grr-nannie which is what she calls me

Quote from: 'interest' pid='61079' dateline='1413637079'WTF......???

so what you really mean is
W for wombat
T for tree or ty-ran-a-saw-yus - or Tick - or Tinkerbell
and F for fly (not bat)

ha ha
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: Samhill on October 18, 2014, 11:38:54 PM
Nice pic.

I hope they are not up around $15 a coin.It's still going to be a real expensive complete set to get.$300+

I would expect some of the coins to be a lower mintage like U,X etc which could be hard to get in the future like some of the commonwealth games coins.
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: Triggersmob on October 18, 2014, 11:51:57 PM
Maybe you have to guess how many things are on the coin beginning with F.
Let's see, Flying Fox, or could it be Fruit Bat, then Fly, Fruit, Footprint...
Anyone see any others?

Trout's going to love this set. :)
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: interest on October 18, 2014, 11:59:43 PM
Quote from: 'Samhill' pid='61081' dateline='1413637734'Nice pic.

I hope they are not up around $15 a coin.It's still going to be a real expensive complete set to get.$300+

I would expect some of the coins to be a lower mintage like U,X etc which could be hard to get in the future like some of the commonwealth games coins.
Cant see them being less then $15.00 x 26 = $390.00 plus delivery
Probably have some sort of deal where you pay up front & they will send coins when they press them.
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: runway on October 19, 2014, 12:30:36 AM
Yuk I think it's about to say bye bye  RAM
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: Unicorn on October 19, 2014, 01:57:49 AM
I might have to save up and buy a vowel.
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: Australian coin on October 19, 2014, 07:13:44 AM
I have known about this stuff for ages but had no idea why the RAM went with, it now it makes sense, so if they are going into baby sets, I guess they wont be needing the dot and kangaroo design $1 {they keep that design for 3 years then change it} so you will be seeing the a-z coins for 3 years then, they also intend to do silvers for these too, wonder if they will be the ones for proof sets, and the ali-brz will be the individual purchase ones, or a bit of both. glad I wont be getting a complete set of these it would hurt the budget a lot, of course I would look at the k one, but if I don't like the product in hand, im going to walk away, interesting concept from the mint, I wonder if it will be a hit or miss, only time will tell.
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: purplepennyhunter on October 19, 2014, 07:56:54 AM
Quote from: 'Samhill' pid='61081' dateline='1413637734'I would expect some of the coins to be a lower mintage like U,X etc which could be hard to get in the future like some of the commonwealth games coins.

Didn't you know Umberto and Xeraphina are becoming way more popular. You could even call your child Umbrella or Xylol.
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: trout on October 19, 2014, 08:26:04 AM
Unbloodybelievable  :dash1::dash1::dash1:
This is just plain ridicules , RAM seems to be pumping more crap out than the Perth Mint:dodgy:
I wonder if RAM has been bought out by the Franklin mint, Its starting to look that way.

That's it for Me, I'm throwing the towel in on Dollar coins MY set ends as of now.
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: kchan1111 on October 19, 2014, 08:53:38 AM
My God! You can go bankrupt collecting $1 coins.......
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: trout on October 19, 2014, 08:58:05 AM
Quote from: 'kchan1111' pid='61092' dateline='1413671018'My God! You can go bankrupt collecting $1 coins.......

It cost me over 5K just for the silver proof 25mm coins :angel:
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: kchan1111 on October 19, 2014, 09:05:23 AM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='61093' dateline='1413671285'
Quote from: 'kchan1111' pid='61092' dateline='1413671018'My God! You can go bankrupt collecting $1 coins.......

It cost me over 5K just for the silver proof 25mm coins :angel:

My admiration for your dedication is rivaled only by my jealousy of your vast disposable income.

Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='61090' dateline='1413667614'
Quote from: 'Samhill' pid='61081' dateline='1413637734'I would expect some of the coins to be a lower mintage like U,X etc which could be hard to get in the future like some of the commonwealth games coins.
Didn't you know Umberto and Xeraphina are becoming way more popular. You could even call your child Umbrella or Xylol.

My impression is that these sets are likely a losing proposition is it not?

E.g. the Commwealth Games coins. For the shooting coin (one of the lowest mintages), Bluesheet values are $2, $6, $16, $60 for MS64, MS65, MS66 and MS67. But at the time retail was $4.95. I guess it depends on what MS you can achieve?

I quite like the 50c Australia At War coins. But the thought of paying $10 for a coin now that I could pick up for less in the future is putting me off. My logic wrong?
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: robbiegal on October 19, 2014, 10:12:52 AM
Quote from: 'Triggersmob' pid='61082' dateline='1413638517'Maybe you have to guess how many things are on the coin beginning with F.
Let's see, Flying Fox, or could it be Fruit Bat, then Fly, Fruit, Footprint...
Anyone see any others?

Trout's going to love this set. :)

I saw the  footprints too and wondered about F's
and the plant with fruit but I couldn't figure out what it was but yep - fruit tree fits with the FFFfff's
I fink it's goanna be fun!
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: Samhill on October 19, 2014, 01:31:44 PM
Kachan111 wrote
My impression is that these sets are likely a losing proposition is it not?

E.g. the Commwealth Games coins. For the shooting coin (one of the lowest mintages), Bluesheet values are $2, $6, $16, $60 for MS64, MS65, MS66 and MS67. But at the time retail was $4.95. I guess it depends on what MS you can achieve?

I quite like the 50c Australia At War coins. But the thought of paying $10 for a coin now that I could pick up for less in the future is putting me off. My logic wrong?
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The risk is not being able to get the complete set of war coins or these in the future and have to pay heaps for missing coins. eg  gymnastics coin.

I find blue sheet values change to much.Values can go up and down by 50% in a matter of weeks. I guess this is linked to the amount of coins in pegs data base more than the value of all the coins (slabbed and raw)
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: Samhill on October 20, 2014, 11:14:41 AM
Details are out in the new mint issue

$15ea for the al/br
$50ea for the silver proof versions.
Personalized Proof baby set $125 with a AL/BR version coin of your choice to place in the set.
Standard proof and Unc baby sets also available which have the MOR $1 coin in them.

Dealers will get the Anzac press  $1 AL and M counterstruck coins allocation.
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: purplepennyhunter on October 20, 2014, 11:23:56 AM
Thank goodness I don't have to buy a baby mint set  to get each of the letter coins. Right now I don't even know if I'll stretch to the $15 x 26, it's awfully harsh.

edit: awwww they make it easy, you can spend $351.10 and just get all of them at once:dodgy:
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: trout on October 20, 2014, 11:46:29 AM
That's 26x $50 = $1300
26x $15 = $390
Them we have yet again another Ethel Pedley coin, Proof MOR , Standard MOR.
That's without the year of the Goat and whatever else they dream up to put all the various countersamps/Mintmarks on for the ANDA Shows.
Then you have to add the postage etc
Probably will work out costing a small fortune  and I wont be able to view/pick out the best coins either.
NO thanks, I can buy some rather nice Proclamation coins or some REAL numismatic Coins with that sort of money.
This year was bad enough just to get the different coins, I am buggered if I am going through all that again.

The number of different 25mm coins has been escalating over the last few years to a point where I cannot truly be bothered with them any more; The FUN has gone out if it for me and it is becoming a real pain in the rear end and simply a chore now to collect these.
I'M OUT :P

I am seriously considering on selling up ALL my Decimal collections and concentrating on truly interesting and historic coins rather than try to keep up with the plethora of $1 and 50 cent coins The Mint is Churning  out lately.
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: serial on October 20, 2014, 12:31:04 PM
notice the baby proof set has a different 50 cent coin to the normal proof set
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: kchan1111 on October 20, 2014, 12:48:32 PM
So the proof set is $100 and mint set $25. Sydney ANDA coin show prices are not discounted. No bargain there.

Quite like the new 50c in Centenary Coin program though.
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: purplepennyhunter on October 20, 2014, 01:13:55 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='61134' dateline='1413767789'26x $15 = $390
Them we have yet again another Ethel Pedley coin, Proof MOR , Standard MOR.


You can buy all the al br unc $1's for a bulk deal $351 :blackeye:

And you can exclude Ethel, she's not there.
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: trout on October 20, 2014, 02:21:06 PM
QuoteYou can buy all the al br unc $1's for a bulk deal $351

For another $249 I can buy a Gold Pagoda.
Let me think for a moment A classic Proclamation coin or 26 pieces of Mint garbage :angel::angel:
I'm Done, Dusted and Dirty with the Damned Dollars Dagnabit :)
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: Goldseeker on October 20, 2014, 03:28:55 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='61093' dateline='1413671285'
Quote from: 'kchan1111' pid='61092' dateline='1413671018'My God! You can go bankrupt collecting $1 coins.......

It cost me over 5K just for the silver proof 25mm coins :angel:

These coins in silver are "frosted finish" and not "proof finish".

Sorry, the silver set is not for me.


Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='61139' dateline='1413773035'
Quote from: 'trout' pid='61134' dateline='1413767789'26x $15 = $390
Them we have yet again another Ethel Pedley coin, Proof MOR , Standard MOR.


You can buy all the al br unc $1's for a bulk deal $351 :blackeye:

And you can exclude Ethel, she's not there.

Ethel has been replaced by an "Kangaroo $1 coin".
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: trout on October 20, 2014, 04:14:17 PM
QuoteThese coins in silver are "frosted finish" and not "proof finish".

 Sorry, the silver set is not for me.

All the other Silver 25mm Coins are minted deep cameo proof, I wonder why these new ones aren't .
Maybe they are going to pad print these as well as the ali bronze coins ?
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: Fulvio on October 20, 2014, 04:31:36 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='61142' dateline='1413777066'I'm Done, Dusted and Dirty with the Damned Dollars Dagnabit :)

Why do you think I gave up years ago? If it doesn't come out of circulation, not interested.

Now, if only my vision would return so I can actually SEE to noodle... (
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: trout on October 20, 2014, 04:42:01 PM
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='61147' dateline='1413784896'
Quote from: 'trout' pid='61142' dateline='1413777066'I'm Done, Dusted and Dirty with the Damned Dollars Dagnabit :)

Why do you think I gave up years ago? If it doesn't come out of circulation, not interested.

Now, if only my vision would return so I can actually SEE to noodle... (

I intend to keep all my coins that were minted for circulation and sell the rest.
I wonder if the market can handle a few hundred different 25mm dollar coins all at once :angel:
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: Fulvio on October 20, 2014, 04:51:39 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='61148' dateline='1413785521'I wonder if the market can handle a few hundred different 25mm dollar coins all at once :angel:

Try them as a complete set, then when they don't sell, break them up. :diablo:
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: Triggersmob on October 20, 2014, 09:30:10 PM
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='61147' dateline='1413784896'Why do you think I gave up years ago? If it doesn't come out of circulation, not interested.

My thoughts exactly. If you start collecting NCLT, just where do you stop?
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: runway on October 20, 2014, 11:00:41 PM
These will be a flop whoever dreamt this up in RAM marketing needs a slap
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: interest on October 20, 2014, 11:37:55 PM
I have long help the opinion that the Perth dollar coins were better in most facets then the RAM dollar coins, the frosted finish, plus the images always seemed to be clearer & sharper. The most compelling difference was the size & the themes used.
   Now with the RAM A-Z alphabet kit coins it looks like they are using the same frosted style & finish as the Perth dollar coins just slightly smaller .
So now is the only difference between the two mints the size of their dollar coins.
Is that really a difference & have they just become the same, ?
Just my late night thoughts & opinion.
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: purplepennyhunter on October 21, 2014, 08:56:28 AM
If the RAM had only made them a slightly different size then we wouldn't be having this discussion or concern I don't think.
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: trout on October 21, 2014, 09:09:08 AM
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='61168' dateline='1413843988'If the RAM had only made them a slightly different size then we wouldn't be having this discussion or concern I don't think.

:agreed:
Spot on PP :)
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: Fulvio on October 21, 2014, 11:41:04 AM
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='61168' dateline='1413843988'If the RAM had only made them a slightly different size then we wouldn't be having this discussion or concern I don't think.

:agreed:
Absolutely spot on.

Which of course is why they did this. But it may backfire with unintended consequences.
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: serial on October 21, 2014, 12:30:56 PM
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='61168' dateline='1413843988'If the RAM had only made them a slightly different size then we wouldn't be having this discussion or concern I don't think.
I don't understand, can you explain why you believe this?
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: Fulvio on October 21, 2014, 01:00:43 PM
Quote from: 'serial' pid='61179' dateline='1413856856'
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='61168' dateline='1413843988'If the RAM had only made them a slightly different size then we wouldn't be having this discussion or concern I don't think.
I don't understand, can you explain why you believe this?

Because then they wouldn't be 'real' coins and could be safely ignored as the granny bait they are.
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: serial on October 21, 2014, 01:08:53 PM
but I thought these are going to be the same size as a 1 dollar coin?
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: Fulvio on October 21, 2014, 01:13:50 PM
Quote from: 'serial' pid='61183' dateline='1413859133'but I thought these are going to be the same size as a 1 dollar coin?

That's exactly the problem, you see?

Its why Trout threw a hissy fit and walked away.
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: purplepennyhunter on October 21, 2014, 01:48:39 PM
If they are the same as circulation dollars then they need to be in the complete collection. If they were different they could be overlooked (yes as grannybait). I guess everyone has their own collecting criteria and mine stipulates 25mm 9g al br unc.
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: trout on October 21, 2014, 06:39:07 PM
Quotemine stipulates 25mm 9g al br unc.

Me too, These have slipped under the Radar and I am certain that RAM are aware of the fact that most serious collectors don't value the oversize coins as much as the 25mm ones.

So yes I am having a "Hissy Fit" and have spat the dummy so far I am unable to even find it now :angel:
My Dollar Days are over and it's time for me to move on to other areas of Numismatics.
I don't intend to throw the baby out with the Bath water, I'm keeping my numismatic interests alive by getting some nice clean water and Changing direction in what I collect from now on :good:
Nothing like a change of interest to spark up the "Wow" factor in collecting :)
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: Goldseeker on October 21, 2014, 07:35:46 PM
As far as I am concerned, the alphabet coins are coloured, 25mm diameter alum-br legal tender coins and thus have to be in ones collection.

All the coloured coins issued in cards remain in the cards and I do not remove them into the UNC collection.

So, a little under $400.00 for the set for me is a must.

Lets see how long it takes before trout owns up that he has bought a set..........
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: runway on October 21, 2014, 11:16:27 PM
I gave up collecting these pad print coloured $1 coins years ago
Cost is a real problem for anyone who was once a keen collector of RAM coins
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: autocoupler on October 22, 2014, 06:27:24 PM
If these are coloured $1 coins the pressure's off. I made a point of not collecting coloured dollars after the AIR series. My plan is to stay committed to al br up to and including the 50th anniversary of decimalisation. After that it is strictly counter stamped dollars only.
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: interest on October 23, 2014, 10:50:32 PM
Of the two kinds, Silver & ali bronze,
the ali bronze look the better of the two.
Just my opinion.
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: runway on October 24, 2014, 01:18:15 AM
Quiet simply RAM have made the same mistake as AP for collectors
Killed the goose that laid the Golden Egg
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: trout on November 04, 2014, 03:10:01 PM
QuoteLets see how long it takes before trout owns up that he has bought a set..........

You know me better than I know myself Goldie, I just ordered the set from RAM:angel:
$351 and Free postage I couldn't resist :dash1:
I almost doubled my Pad printed 25mm dollars in one hit :P
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: Goldseeker on November 04, 2014, 08:10:41 PM
Now, how many of us will go ahead and get the Silver Set of these coins at $50 each I think?

I am about to cancel m y order for them because they are not Proof Issue.
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: trout on November 04, 2014, 09:49:02 PM
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='61882' dateline='1415094041'Now, how many of us will go ahead and get the Silver Set of these coins at $50 each I think?

I am about to cancel m y order for them because they are not Proof Issue.

Not Me Mate, the silver coins look like Crap, even with the discount they are garbage in my eyes.
$50 for a virtually bullion coin at 9g when silver is at about $16 per Oz :dodgy:
Title: RE: New $1 A-Z coins
Post by: Goldseeker on November 05, 2014, 08:58:02 PM
My silver alphabet coin order was cancelled this day.