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Non Numismatic Discussion => Chin Wag => Topic started by: Nevol on September 29, 2014, 12:48:54 PM

Title: Verrrry interesting
Post by: Nevol on September 29, 2014, 12:48:54 PM
When fresh is not always 'fresh'.

http://www.smartcompany.com.au/legal/43963-coles-slapped-with-three-year-ban-for-freshly-baked-bread-claims.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+smartcompanyallcontent+%28SmartCompany+-+All+Content%29
Title: RE: Verrrry interesting
Post by: purplepennyhunter on September 29, 2014, 04:14:39 PM
I once asked at a fish and chip shop by the ocean whether the fish I was going to order was fresh - and the reply was "as fresh as we can get it". I looked again puzzled, so it's fresh or frozen? She said snap frozen on the boat, so not friggin fresh at all!
Title: RE: Verrrry interesting
Post by: trout on September 29, 2014, 08:23:57 PM
The ONLY way to know if you are eating fresh fish is to catch them yourself :ok:
Title: RE: Verrrry interesting
Post by: Goldseeker on September 29, 2014, 08:32:43 PM
Trout should know.............sorry mate, couldn't help myself.
Title: RE: Verrrry interesting
Post by: oh my florin on September 29, 2014, 08:34:42 PM
trout you reminded me of a Republican saying 'if you teach a man to fish and he eats for life, give him a fish and he calls you a socialist'
Title: RE: Verrrry interesting
Post by: trout on September 29, 2014, 08:38:53 PM
Quote from: 'oh my florin' pid='60162' dateline='1411988682'trout you reminded me of a Republican saying 'if you teach a man to fish and he eats for life, give him a fish and he calls you a socialist'

Gawd :dash1:
the saying is;
If you give a man a fish he will eat that day But if you TEACH a man to fish he will eat every day :ok:
Title: RE: Verrrry interesting
Post by: robbiegal on September 29, 2014, 08:56:28 PM
haha
politics can make everything sound political even traditional parables
Title: RE: Verrrry interesting
Post by: oh my florin on September 29, 2014, 09:07:21 PM
trout I know the original one. The one I quoted is a satirical Republican saying aimed at the Democrats.
Title: RE: Verrrry interesting
Post by: JeffH on September 30, 2014, 06:20:32 AM
What is amazing is that it took from June 2013 until September 2014 to make a ruling that anyone with an ounce of common sense could have reached immediately once the facts were known.
I wonder how much that protracted process cost us, the taxpayers?
Title: RE: Verrrry interesting
Post by: purplepennyhunter on September 30, 2014, 08:21:13 AM
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='60192' dateline='1412023832'What is amazing is that it took from June 2013 until September 2014 to make a ruling that anyone with an ounce of common sense could have reached immediately once the facts were known.
I wonder how much that protracted process cost us, the taxpayers?

About the bread? I was right onto this, I HATE the way supermarkets sell bread that's not baked today. I refuse to be duped into thinking I am buying something fresh that's not.

My local Coles will keep the fresh bread out the back and leave the old bread on the shelf so by the time the fresh bread comes out it's all old. I was constantly having to ask for the fresh bread. Now I just go to my local friendly bakery where they bake multiple times per day and they know me. I love them and we go through a lot of bread with 4 kids.
Title: RE: Verrrry interesting
Post by: JeffH on September 30, 2014, 08:29:22 AM
Just a tip. If you buy day old bread (only if reduced price because of that) then pop it in the oven for a few minutes and it will be nice and crusty outside and soft inside. You can brush a little milk on the top first but will need a little longer in the oven.
Not applicable to pre-sliced bread.
Title: RE: Verrrry interesting
Post by: Nevol on September 30, 2014, 08:31:56 AM
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='60199' dateline='1412031073'About the bread? I was right onto this, I HATE the way supermarkets sell bread that's not baked today. I refuse to be duped into thinking I am buying something fresh that's not. My local Coles will keep the fresh bread out the back and leave the old bread on the shelf so by the time the fresh bread comes out it's all old. I was constantly having to ask for the fresh bread. Now I just go to my local friendly bakery where they bake multiple times per day and they know me. I love them and we go through a lot of bread with 4 kids.
All the supermarkets are guilty of this to a certain extent.  The use by date of regular bread is usually +5 days from the date of purchase, and if I can't find bread with that date, I refuse to buy it. I'm the same with Milk only its' use by date should be +12 days.
Title: RE: Verrrry interesting
Post by: purplepennyhunter on September 30, 2014, 10:02:14 AM
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='60200' dateline='1412031562'Just a tip. If you buy day old bread (only if reduced price because of that) then pop it in the oven for a few minutes and it will be nice and crusty outside and soft inside. You can brush a little milk on the top first but will need a little longer in the oven.
Not applicable to pre-sliced bread.


I have done this with sliced bread. Wrap a stack in foil and place in the oven, the outer slices will be crusty and the middle one's soft again.
Title: RE: Verrrry interesting
Post by: JeffH on September 30, 2014, 10:34:59 AM
Or, you can make Melba Toast (http://www.blackbookcooking.com/melba-toast).
Title: RE: Verrrry interesting
Post by: nealeffendi on October 01, 2014, 08:11:13 PM
Call me fussy but I regard any bread that has cooled as not fresh. I like to go to bakeries that bake multiple times a day. Back home (Cairo) I was spoilt for choice with multiple bakeries within 5 minutes walk selling a whole range of breads, often only seconds from the oven (and so hot you needed to hold them with a cloth).
A trick to freshen up flat breads (like Lebanese bread) is to throw it for a few seconds onto a lit gas stove hobb. Depending on how you do it it will either become soft and fresh tasting or it will become hard and brittle like a corn chip and great for dips.
Title: RE: Verrrry interesting
Post by: robbiegal on October 01, 2014, 08:21:36 PM
my mum always told us not to eat fresh hot bread - not sure why

 I bake our bread here at home most evenings (or every second) and I always tell myself that I am not allowed to eat it warm!! ha ha ... but if it's fruit bread... I do!

a lot of people won't eat day old bread but my hubby does all the time because he hates to waste my home made bread

if I reheat bread I sprinkle it with some water then wrap in foil
when I worked in  pub on the coast we did it all the time and the bread rolls were always fabulous

so if I freeze my fresh baked bread then when it's defrosted - is it still fresh bread? or just defrosted bread that was made with love? ha ha
Title: RE: Verrrry interesting
Post by: Fr45h3R on October 01, 2014, 08:38:38 PM
We bought a thermomix a few months back. In under an hour we can have fresh bread / rolls ready, including baking time.
Title: RE: Verrrry interesting
Post by: robbiegal on October 01, 2014, 08:48:38 PM
does it bake them too?
Title: RE: Verrrry interesting
Post by: Fr45h3R on October 01, 2014, 08:50:58 PM
No, it can only go to 110c which is enough for steaming, but not for baking or frying
Very versatile. We got the old model now, the new model is touch screen and looks really flash.
They aren't cheap, and I don't know how the cheaper machines from Aldi / Target stack up.
Title: RE: Verrrry interesting
Post by: robbiegal on October 01, 2014, 08:59:34 PM
I keep hearing about them
the ants pants etc

you must use a fast rise method for bread under an hour
but is sounds like it might do the rise for you with that thermostat?

I have a bread machine or  I now use my new mixer with the dough hooks if I make it from scratch,  then I sit the dough under the lights in the rangehood - perfect for rising dough

still takes about 3 hours either way
Title: RE: Verrrry interesting
Post by: Fr45h3R on October 01, 2014, 09:07:52 PM
If you can find a demonstrator in your area, it's a worthwhile experience even if you're not keen to drop that sort of dough :angel: on the unit itself.
Title: RE: Verrrry interesting
Post by: robbiegal on October 01, 2014, 09:12:23 PM
they are all the rage with my daughters current 'new mums' cohort
she doesn't have one, so I got her a kenwood - she loves Ken all the same but he just doesn't cut it like one of those gizmos ... apparently