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Numismatic Discussion => Coin and Banknote Grading => Topic started by: stevo1962 on September 19, 2014, 04:14:35 PM

Title: Gold Sovereigns
Post by: stevo1962 on September 19, 2014, 04:14:35 PM
Just wondering if anyone has any clues to the grades on these.Had
them lying around for a couple of years but thought maybe I should
get them slabbed

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10137/1868a.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10137/1867b.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10137/1871a.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10137/1871b.jpg)
Title: RE: Gold Sovereigns
Post by: ausjack on September 19, 2014, 04:28:27 PM
Come on Steve I'm getting there with silver, copper is a ways off yet and now you want me doing gold :winkextra: Think I'll let Walter and Eric comment on these but I like'em :good:

Ok having a HUGE punt as I wouldn't have a clew but the only way to learn so AU52 for the first maybe a bit higher at 55 and MS62 and like what look like die cracks :good:

on the reverse
Title: RE: Gold Sovereigns
Post by: trout on September 19, 2014, 04:38:39 PM
Here are a couple of mine , Both are graded AU55 by PCGS.
You can use these as a point of reference to grade your coins :ok:

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/1870_sov~0.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/1870_sov1~0.jpg)

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/1885_sov1~0.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/1885_sov~0.jpg)
Title: RE: Gold Sovereigns
Post by: Goldseeker on September 19, 2014, 07:39:53 PM
I wish I could post pickies of my Sovereigns but they are secure in a SDB in Melbourne.
Title: RE: Gold Sovereigns
Post by: coxspau on September 22, 2014, 11:18:50 AM
Trout, Interesting that they are both AU55 given that the 1885 appears to have fewer surface knocks. Relief on both is very nice.

Stevo1962, the 1867 has a few more marks than the 1871. IMHO, the 1871 is likely to be an AU55, while the 1867 is likely to be graded a little lower.
Title: RE: Gold Sovereigns
Post by: oh my florin on September 22, 2014, 11:38:24 AM
AJ do you mean AU53?
Title: RE: Gold Sovereigns
Post by: trout on September 22, 2014, 11:56:46 AM
QuoteTrout, Interesting that they are both AU55 given that the 1885 appears to have fewer surface knocks. Relief on both is very nice.
Both are graded AU55 By PCGS.
The Shield Sovereign's reverse is protected by the slightly concave design of the coin :good:
Title: RE: Gold Sovereigns
Post by: interest on May 16, 2019, 03:12:00 PM
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Title: RE: Gold Sovereigns
Post by: interest on May 16, 2019, 03:24:11 PM
Sovereigns for auction at Taree this weekend.


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Title: RE: Gold Sovereigns
Post by: Unicorn on May 16, 2019, 06:28:26 PM
Geez they're nice Interest! (What ..... coins in Taree ..... I was blown away when the RAM came to Port!!!)
Title: RE: Gold Sovereigns
Post by: interest on May 16, 2019, 11:19:30 PM
Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='119397' dateline='1557997106'Geez they're nice Interest! (What ..... coins in Taree ..... I was blown away when the RAM came to Port!!!)

There is an auction of a deceased estate at Taree showground on Saturday

Taree auction (http://www.theauctionqueens.com.au)

A lot of junk there
Title: RE: Gold Sovereigns
Post by: Unicorn on May 17, 2019, 04:45:12 AM
Thanks for the link Interest. Ah the Auction Queens. They have an auction at Johns River every now and again. When I know one is on I usually check their list to see if there's any coins. (often none). It looks like only a couple of items in this bunch of things. Not cashed up (what's new), so sovereigns are are bit out of my scope. One day ......
Title: RE: Gold Sovereigns
Post by: JeffH on March 16, 2022, 07:28:20 PM
From the Sydney Morning Herald in 1946;
" Kingly sum
While looking for white ants and borers under an old hut at the Quarantine Station, North Head, Mr W. Patison put his foot in a rabbit warren and stumbled upon 60 gold sovereigns. Yesterday at the Coroner's Court the sovereigns were declared 'treasure trove and the property of our Lord the King'. This is the first case of Treasure trove in Sydney for many years. The earliest coin was dated 1864 and the latest 1894. They are valued at £162."

And the value now?
Title: RE: Gold Sovereigns
Post by: Mister T on March 20, 2022, 09:15:52 AM
Much more than 2.7 times face value I'm sure!
Title: RE: Gold Sovereigns
Post by: seedyrom on March 27, 2022, 08:59:18 PM
Yeah, I'm a little disappointed that "finders keepers" didn't serve as precedent law.


https://youtu.be/sGYpDwBGiY0
Title: RE: Gold Sovereigns
Post by: Basilstate on March 28, 2022, 08:44:07 AM
Laws in the UK are much stronger with Treasure finds,property of the Crown.
Title: RE: Gold Sovereigns
Post by: Mister T on March 31, 2022, 10:17:54 PM
Yes it seems like people get caught trying to conceal finds in the UK all the time.