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Non Numismatic Discussion => Chin Wag => Topic started by: Steveqld on July 24, 2014, 05:30:37 PM

Title: Air bags are great things (sarcasm)
Post by: Steveqld on July 24, 2014, 05:30:37 PM
Had a dingle today and this is the last thing my car saw about .01 of a second before it left this earth.

My car was doing 60kph

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10124/Car_crash1.jpg)

The sarcasm comes in as the air bags which I believe are supposed to deploy at about 30kph did NOT deploy hence we both have sore chests from the seatbelts.

Still could have been worse and does say something for dashcams.
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Post by: trout on July 24, 2014, 05:51:20 PM
Thank the Gods that you are both OK :yahoo:
It is great to know that you are still with us mate despite the bruised ribs.
Any dispute about who was in the wrong is instantly proven via the dashcam :good:
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Post by: proof27 on July 24, 2014, 06:18:34 PM
Lucky you only have sore chest, that would of been some impact at 60kms. Good to hear your ok.
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Post by: serial on July 24, 2014, 06:23:33 PM
Make/model of your car?
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Post by: Robster on July 24, 2014, 06:26:44 PM
Ouch, best wishes for a 'speedy' recovery.! :angel:
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Post by: Steveqld on July 24, 2014, 06:27:56 PM
Quote from: 'serial' pid='55409' dateline='1406192013'Make/model of your car?

2011 Toyota Rav4
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Post by: serial on July 24, 2014, 06:55:13 PM
Do you have a roo bar? And are you the 1st owner?
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Post by: Steveqld on July 24, 2014, 07:03:28 PM
Quote from: 'serial' pid='55415' dateline='1406193913'Do you have a roo bar? And are you the 1st owner?

No and Yes.

Just to put things into perspective.  His car (Ford Focus in case you can't tell) and I notice his airbags deployed (not impressed).  The car is actually facing the opposite to it's direction of travel:

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10124/Photo0128copy.jpg)

When I say "his car", it's actually his girlfriends.  Well she was his girlfriend until mid morning.
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Post by: serial on July 24, 2014, 07:10:09 PM
Can we see yours?
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Post by: nealeffendi on July 24, 2014, 07:20:49 PM
Quote from: 'serial' pid='55421' dateline='1406194809'Can we see yours?

Why do you want to see Steve's girlfriend? :angel:
Is that 60k you were doing or was the combined impact speed 60k? If the other car was going the same direction as you and he spun around then the net speed might be well under 30k (might explain the airbags).
Having a few relatives who are mechanics I know it is not uncommon for the airbags to be removed and the wiring to be bypassed. Car passes inspection but won't deploy bupkiss.
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Post by: Steveqld on July 24, 2014, 07:21:24 PM
Quote from: 'serial' pid='55421' dateline='1406194809'Can we see yours?

Attached.  It doesn't do it justice.  The front of the car is actually pushed out to the left and hence why I believe it's dead.  I suspect there's some warping of the frame.  

Also had to blot out my wife who remained in the car for treatment by the Ambos.

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10124/Photo0127copy~0.jpg)
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Post by: Goldseeker on July 24, 2014, 07:25:07 PM
hOPE YOU RECOVER QUICKLY.

iT LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE WAS ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE ROAD, DID THE OTHER TURN IN FRONT OF YOU?
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Post by: Steveqld on July 24, 2014, 07:28:01 PM
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='55424' dateline='1406195707'hOPE YOU RECOVER QUICKLY.

iT LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE WAS ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE ROAD, DID THE OTHER TURN IN FRONT OF YOU?

Yes.  The footage shows he was driving along the bicycle lane behind another car on the opposite side of the road.  As the other car passed us he swerved out into the traffic lane then turned across in front of us.

Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='55422' dateline='1406195449'
Quote from: 'serial' pid='55421' dateline='1406194809'Can we see yours?

Why do you want to see Steve's girlfriend? :angel:
Is that 60k you were doing or was the combined impact speed 60k? If the other car was going the same direction as you and he spun around then the net speed might be well under 30k (might explain the airbags).
Having a few relatives who are mechanics I know it is not uncommon for the airbags to be removed and the wiring to be bypassed. Car passes inspection but won't deploy bupkiss.

My car was doing 60kph and he was driving in the opposite direction to us, hence a head on whack.

The only reason I can come up with the non-deployment is that the hit has to be within a field of 60 degrees of a center head on.  Because he was turning and the front right of my car hit him it may be just outside that range.  Still not impressed.
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Post by: serial on July 24, 2014, 07:41:33 PM
No you didn't hit hard enough to reach the sensors. Believe it or not that's going to be repaired.
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Post by: robbiegal on July 24, 2014, 07:59:35 PM
bloody hell Steve
I hope that you and wifie are ok tonight
bet that gave you both a hell of a fright

I do recall something about airbags not deploying when the vehicle is hit at a corner angle

glad that you guys are Ok
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Post by: nealeffendi on July 24, 2014, 08:24:26 PM
No matter how defensively you drive you can still get hit by idiots. I googled non deployment of airbags and it does need to be a serious impact for them to deploy, glancing blows (like the front drivers side of your car) will not always set them off.
If the frame is warped they will probably write it off.
Something I learnt a long time ago, a car that is painted in colours like yours will blend into the road/background. Once saw a statistic  that bright colours for cars (yellow, pink) are up to 50% less likely to be hit than blending colours. Bet the other driver will say he didn't see you (doesn't excuse his carelessness).
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Post by: Unicorn on July 24, 2014, 08:24:46 PM
Best wishes for you both Steve. Would have been quite a shock.

It certainly made a mess of both vehicles.
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Post by: serial on July 24, 2014, 08:46:42 PM
I am telling you that is not a write of, the d pillar isn't warped and it looks worse than it is. unless you cooked the motor by running it dry of coolant after the crash (which I doubt) I would put an insurance reserve of $6-7 on this. the good thing is that you hopefully didn't get to hurt and the way that the car "crumbled" to absorb the impact has probably saved you from a great deal of pain
I hope things go well for you on this and that you come out of it un harmed
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Post by: Steveqld on July 24, 2014, 09:47:19 PM
Quote from: 'serial' pid='55442' dateline='1406200602'I am telling you that is not a write of, the d pillar isn't warped and it looks worse than it is. unless you cooked the motor by running it dry of coolant after the crash (which I doubt) I would put an insurance reserve of $6-7 on this. the good thing is that you hopefully didn't get to hurt and the way that the car "crumbled" to absorb the impact has probably saved you from a great deal of pain
I hope things go well for you on this and that you come out of it un harmed

Can't disagree with that probably because I have no idea what a d pillar is.  Doesn't worry me either way about repair or new.  It's outside the new for old so I would have been up for about $15k to get a new one and RACQ are pretty good.  I'll let you know how close you are with your estimate.

Much better it happened today with 2 empty baby seats in it rather than tomorrow when my grandchildren will be in those (now replacement) seats.
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Post by: Triggersmob on July 24, 2014, 11:24:22 PM
Steve, sorry to hear about your crash. I hope all parties are OK.
I had a crash recently myself and wrote my car off. It was barely a bump, but the subframe got bent and made it unfinancial to repair.
I drove my car home and then to the panel beaters, so I was most surprised when told it was a write off.

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10113/Damn.jpg)
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Post by: interest on July 24, 2014, 11:46:59 PM
Glad you are both OK they can shake you up a bit those accidents.
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Post by: purplepennyhunter on July 25, 2014, 08:57:03 AM
Whoa, glad everyone is ok.
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Post by: Nevol on July 25, 2014, 09:06:00 AM
Yes, glad you are all OK. :good:
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Post by: keldaw on July 25, 2014, 09:18:19 AM
ditto from me to steve lets all hope you don't have an forgoing problems with your health and your claims with insurance , I am also with RACQ but have never had a claim . so lets know how you go
 but the main thing is you are both unharmed  ..   ,, kel ,,
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Post by: Australian coin on July 25, 2014, 01:35:28 PM
hope everyone is ok, wish I had a dash cam
you aint got nothing on me mate, my car was totalled, and I got cracked ribs, collapsed lung and well they are the injury's I can write about, you don't want to know what happened below that
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Post by: Steveqld on July 25, 2014, 06:00:05 PM
Must admit I wouldn't have liked being in your shoes AC.
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Post by: Australian coin on July 25, 2014, 07:40:14 PM
wondering if I should put some car pics up, but they all got people in them, the rest photos I got are just out of intensive care, well I had to ask people what photos they took as I couldn't take anything I was healing for months - still am

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10011/carr.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10011/carr2.jpg)

you can see the impact of the car in mine, the doors and steering wheel had to be cut off to get me out, something along the lines that the steering wheel was pushed forward in the impacts and was pushed into my ribs puncturing my lung, my hip had multiple breaks and a piece of spine, I was pinned in the chair, covered in fluid from the steering wheel when they cut me out, and then they chopped all my clothes off. I don't remember a thing and everyone says that's for the best, but I want to know what happened
you know how hard I was hit, when you look at the first chair was broken, and the drivers seat has a massive crack in the base.
I lost my fishing rods, snapped to pieces you can see
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Post by: Steveqld on July 25, 2014, 08:20:50 PM
Have to agree that mine pales into insignificance.

Your photos also say something for the safety of car designs.  For all the damage to the exterior the cabin remained it's integrity.
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Post by: robbiegal on July 25, 2014, 09:10:53 PM
Jesus Christ AC
you are blessed - The Angels were looking after you xx  :heart: (oh and the Fire-ies and the Ambos)
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Post by: trout on July 25, 2014, 09:31:51 PM
QuoteI lost my fishing rods, snapped to pieces you can see
Spoken like a True Fisherman AC.
Bugger the smashed Body , the fishing  gear is stuffed.:angel:
You are one hell of a tough Puppy to survive that sort of impact , Fishing gear IS replaceable .
Replacing You on the other hand is a totally different concept :ok:
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Post by: Robster on July 25, 2014, 10:39:59 PM
Wow, really does hit home how lucky you were to have the chance to recover.!!:angel:
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Post by: Coiny Chris on July 26, 2014, 06:28:20 AM
Hello,

Here in Aus, our Air-bags are smaller and go off later because we have seat-belt rules. They can cause other problems when they do go off, but in a big hit they will do more good than harm. Looking at the Car, I dont think it would have done much IMO. And for the curious, Yes I have had one go off. Not my fault, back in 96.
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Post by: Australian coin on July 26, 2014, 12:48:04 PM
haha without you wonderful people I would not have been able to keep my mind off things, the forum has kept me busy, and all the kind words make the world of difference, luv you's all
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Post by: Steveqld on July 29, 2014, 04:26:24 PM
Quote from: 'serial' pid='55442' dateline='1406200602'I am telling you that is not a write of, the d pillar isn't warped and it looks worse than it is. unless you cooked the motor by running it dry of coolant after the crash (which I doubt) I would put an insurance reserve of $6-7 on this. the good thing is that you hopefully didn't get to hurt and the way that the car "crumbled" to absorb the impact has probably saved you from a great deal of pain
I hope things go well for you on this and that you come out of it un harmed

Sadly the assessor passed my RAV 4 onto car heaven today.  Costs got up to $Unk to pull it apart + $6000 to put back together but they stopped counting when the parts alone reached $13,500.

The photo didn't do justice to the damage.  

No significant injuries although I understand these sternum tears from the seatbelts can take 6 - 8 weeks to heal and they're bad enough.

Better start looking for a new car.
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Post by: robbiegal on July 29, 2014, 04:33:34 PM
ouch
new car can be done
strenums ..... well you only get one shot at your own!

I can feel the pain from here ....  gee we could start a recovery group in this forum ... not a bad idea
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Post by: Steveqld on July 29, 2014, 04:51:50 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='55826' dateline='1406617414'I can feel the pain from here ....  gee we could start a recovery group in this forum ... not a bad idea

Sorry, laughs, coughs, sneezes etc etc are on the "don't do unless you like pain" list at the moment
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Post by: robbiegal on July 29, 2014, 05:05:04 PM
ok
so I shall withhold from posting my terrible jokes, sending bunches of daffodils (the ultimate sneeze flower) or coughing with my very virulent Canberra flu cough all over you!!!  ha ha

get better and do take it easy with the horticulture - that re-pot will just have to wait ......
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Post by: Ozcoins on July 29, 2014, 05:58:31 PM
Quote from: 'Steveqld' pid='55825' dateline='1406616984'
Quote from: 'serial' pid='55442' dateline='1406200602'I am telling you that is not a write of, the d pillar isn't warped and it looks worse than it is. unless you cooked the motor by running it dry of coolant after the crash (which I doubt) I would put an insurance reserve of $6-7 on this. the good thing is that you hopefully didn't get to hurt and the way that the car "crumbled" to absorb the impact has probably saved you from a great deal of pain
I hope things go well for you on this and that you come out of it un harmed

Sadly the assessor passed my RAV 4 onto car heaven today.  Costs got up to $Unk to pull it apart + $6000 to put back together but they stopped counting when the parts alone reached $13,500.

The photo didn't do justice to the damage.  

No significant injuries although I understand these sternum tears from the seatbelts can take 6 - 8 weeks to heal and they're bad enough.

Better start looking for a new car.

 It looked to me like it would be written off.
I hope your recovery goes well and you find a great replacement for your car.
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Post by: czark on July 29, 2014, 10:07:45 PM
Good to hear you are both OK!

AC whoa!

I'm just glad to see you all back here and well!