One of my Brothers Coins that he purchased on Ebay,photos of this variety used to be in early coin books and IIRC was said to be a die used in the early production/mintage of the 1933 Penny.
Looks like something is going on with the first 3 as well.
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10136/33_penny1.jpg)
niiiice pic
Damn fine example & great pic too,i was looking at the first 3 & i'm thinking maybe it's a post mint knock/dint ,there is a similar looking knock/dint on the inner ring which i have outlined in red on your pic.
(http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo339/appeangel07_photos/29-9-08/new%20coin%20album/33_penny1_zps9f9305ca.jpg)
Yeah,also there are 2 'blobs' on the inside of the top loop of the first 3,they show as a copper colour,not sure what they are without clearing away the muck,i'll try & get a better pic of them on the W/end.
Great example!
On the inside edge of the bottom loop of the first 3 there seems to be a narrow ledge. Do my eyes deceive me or is it there?
A nice example of an overdate.
Dr Paul Holland wrote an excellent article a few years ago on the topic, there are possibly 6 dies involved and you have the best version.
Brilliant pic, great example
Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='54902' dateline='1405577234'On the inside edge of the bottom loop of the first 3 there seems to be a narrow ledge. Do my eyes deceive me or is it there?
A nice example of an overdate.
Dr Paul Holland wrote an excellent article a few years ago on the topic, there are possibly 6 dies involved and you have the best version.
Yes,there is a ledge or something there,also something going on inside the top loop,i'll try and clean the gunk out and get a better pic while i've got the coin out.
I've seen a photo of a similar coin in an old book(1960's?) but its first one i've seen in the flesh,i have a thought in the back of my head that it was one of the original 1933 dies but wasn't in use for long but i'll have to source the original book to be sure.
I think the above Coin is another variation of 2A,stronger outline.
Paul Holland Vol.13 2002
http://www.numismatics.org.au/pdfjournal/Vol13/Vol%2013%20Article%203.pdf
My examples for comparison purposes.This shows some doubling on the inside of the '9'.
(http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o787/robster836/002_zps133d8923.jpg)
Almost identical to the previous coin, more defined ridge on the top of the first '3'. Noted is the absence of polishing lines.!
(http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o787/robster836/004_zpsffb85d67.jpg)
Robster, your first image shows a number of die polish marks between the numerals; early strike?
Great images BTW.
Thankyou, the polishing marks are quite obvious on the first coin.!!
A couple more Pics. before its stored back in the dungeon,looks like a normal top loop on the first 3(except for back bit) but interesting ridge inside the lower loop,it seems to extend to tip.
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10136/33__main1.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10136/main.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10136/33__main2.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10136/33__main43.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10136/33__main.jpg)
Lov e the pictures and would be excellent pickies for a 1933 Overprint blog......PPH might be interested.......!
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='55043' dateline='1405824683'Lov e the pictures and would be excellent pickies for a 1933 Overprint blog......PPH might be interested.......!
I had already thought that someone could summarise the info and submit it for the forum wiki.......
:yahoo: out of a bulk lot I got 9 1933 penny's and just had to test the new USB microscope and found one overdate so pretty happy :)
(http://i58.tinypic.com/206zps0.jpg)
(http://i57.tinypic.com/ra5d0m.jpg)
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2qav3t1.jpg)
Woohoo! Well done! :yahoo:
Think of all the fun you'll have now checking all your coins again. :good:
Nice one AJ .When I was buying bulk lots I had to recheck everthing many times as I
found out that some varieties are worth big money
Thanks Nevol :good:
:dodgy: gee thanks for reminding me about the thousands of error I have and still trying to sort out :dash1: Next time I'm depressed I'll remember to give you a call, all good and just joking mate :friends: But that was my first thought as well and thought..NAH, so only now on but might get around to the rest one day :)
Thanks Stevo, still haven't been through them all yet, will take quite some time I think but I have all the time in the world :winkextra:
oh my - what a great snap!!!
well done
Thanks mate, yeah it brings it in close RG :friends:
Here's another one!
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb22/interest88/32.33_zpsxlzrgyzv.jpg)
found this on the latest universal auction and sent email to say wrong obverse and got one back saying it will be changed but wonder if it will get done before the auction ends :dodgy:
http://liveauction.universalcoinco.com.au/1933-32-Australian-KGV-Overdate-Penny_i21663551
Quote from: 'interest' pid='66539' dateline='1423141864'Here's another one!
Yeah,nice,i never saw an eg of the early die until Ebay started.
AJ,extreme buyer beware at any Auction,lots of mistakes,some deliberate some just carelessness or ignorance.