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Numismatic Discussion => Coin Chit Chat => Topic started by: trout on November 14, 2012, 03:32:38 PM

Title: SAFLIPing Magic
Post by: trout on November 14, 2012, 03:32:38 PM
I have just removed all my pre decimal coins out of them crappy Dansco's and put them into proper albums.

I used saflips to do this instead of 2x2's, WoW it is so much easier than using cardboard 2x2's.
I just transferred complete sets  (minus the obvious lotto winner coins) into albums and it took me just over an hour.
It took me the longest to do the 3d's because they were absolute swine’s to get out of the Dansco's.

I haven't sealed them yet (Have to order a sealer) or labelled them but I will never buy another Cardboard 2x2 again.

If I don't seal them I can replace the coin after taking pic's whatever instead of destroying a 2x2 flip.
The real beauty is they are actually cheaper than the self adhesive 2x2's I was using.

I love these little buggers
Title: RE: SAFLIPing Magic
Post by: enworb on November 14, 2012, 03:48:08 PM
I have been doing exactly the same thing the past two weeks but i keep getting distracted. Ive now decided i wont be sealing them so that i can get them out and have a cuddle every now and then.
Title: RE: SAFLIPing Magic
Post by: Sapyx on November 14, 2012, 06:57:08 PM
I use flips rather than 2x2s for coins that I currently don't have a size-matched 2x2 for, for coins I think I'm likely to purchase an upgrade for, for coins that are too badly worn or damaged to be visible through a 2x2 film, and for ancients, odd-shaped coins and coins that otherwise don't physically fit comfortably into a 2x2.

All up, it's probably about 10 percent of the collection.
Title: RE: SAFLIPing Magic
Post by: trout on November 14, 2012, 09:29:48 PM
Quote from: 'Sapyx' pid='3126' dateline='1352881628'I use flips rather than 2x2s for coins that I currently don't have a size-matched 2x2 for, for coins I think I'm likely to purchase an upgrade for, for coins that are too badly worn or damaged to be visible through a 2x2 film, and for ancients, odd-shaped coins and coins that otherwise don't physically fit comfortably into a 2x2.

All up, it's probably about 10 percent of the collection.

That is what makes these so atractive "one size fits all"
Non PVC in a Non PVC album and sealable, Bloody perfect :good:

As the Mylar is porous and the staples/glue/air DO have an effect on coins these in MHO are a far superior storage solution.
The only downside is labelling, if you put a paper/Cardboard label in the other pouch of these you will hide the other side of the coin in an album.
If I cannot find purpose made stickers for these I will use those stickers on a roll to put the coin information on
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Title: RE: SAFLIPing Magic
Post by: Sapyx on November 14, 2012, 10:17:43 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='3132' dateline='1352890788'The only downside is labelling, if you put a paper/Cardboard label in the other pouch of these you will hide the other side of the coin in an album.


Another way around that, which I've tried with moderate success, is to put a picture or scan of one side of the coin on the back of the card. That way, you can at least tell at a glance which coins are which when looking at the page from the back.

It'd be a lot of work taking pics of all the coins you need to do this for, especially if you're converting your entire collection to the system, but since there are lots of other good reasons to take pics of all your valuable coins (insurance, theft reporting, etc), then think of it as an excellent motivator. :d_clock:
Title: RE: SAFLIPing Magic
Post by: trout on November 14, 2012, 10:54:26 PM
Another way around that, which I've tried with moderate success, is to put a picture or scan of one side of the coin on the back of the card. That way, you can at least tell at a glance which coins are which when looking at the page from the back.

That won't work for me as I like to see both sides of the coin "In the flesh" and besides my photographic skills are pretty mundane.

This why I went to the 2x2 in albums in the first place.
With these saflips you can not only see the coin but you can see the rims without distorting the Mylar (on 2x2 cardboard flips) and destroying the holder.

They just look a bit weird without the white surrounds like the normal 2x2’s..
I can live with this knowing than these coins are NOW in the best storage system that I know of.

To me it’s all about the coins and not the aesthetics :good: :dance2:
Title: RE: SAFLIPing Magic
Post by: enworb on November 14, 2012, 11:54:57 PM
I got some of the paper insert that fit onto one side of the flip, the coin goes on the other side. Looks like this:
(http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q772/enworb5/DSC02239.jpg)
Title: RE: SAFLIPing Magic
Post by: trout on November 15, 2012, 12:06:49 AM
Quote from: 'enworb' pid='3144' dateline='1352899497'I got some of the paper insert that fit onto one side of the flip, the coin goes on the other side. Looks like this:
(http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q772/enworb5/DSC02239.jpg)

Nice coin:drooling:
The downside is that when you turn the page to see the obverse all you will see is paper.
Labelling is important , but it shouldn’t obscure the coin.
I will come up with a solution to this :good:
Title: RE: SAFLIPing Magic
Post by: accumulator on November 15, 2012, 01:13:04 AM
Thats a nice looking coin Enworb :ok::icon_e_wink:

I've been using more saflips of late but still use staple 2x2's in 20 pocket pages . Good for stacking or albums.
Title: RE: SAFLIPing Magic
Post by: purplepennyhunter on November 15, 2012, 07:22:32 AM
The other thing is that the coin isn't going to stay in the middle. That halfpenny will drop down and maybe rotate left to right slightly (unless you want to try glue like the RSL coloured $2 :dodgy: sorry still upset). I use this system and I'm very happy with it. Doing away with all the different sized cardboard 2x2's was the best thing I ever did. And if they all look the same then I'm happy.

These are some of my error coins, the writing is all on the back of the card and the mini album fits perfectly in our safety deposit box.
(http://www.thepurplepenny.com/files/-new-8-page-mini-coin-album-non-pvc-48-pocket-secure-and-portable-wallet-design-with-safety-flap-pages.jpg)
Title: RE: SAFLIPing Magic
Post by: markn on November 15, 2012, 07:24:39 AM
I have all my coins holdered up the same same way Enworb has.  Not seeing one side is a minor annoyance but it's also an encouragement to take the holders out of the folder to stroke them and love them and hold them.
Title: RE: SAFLIPing Magic
Post by: purplepennyhunter on November 15, 2012, 07:27:27 AM
Sorry completely off topic here but the other day Mark got a coin back that he'd sold earlier this year and had lost sleep about it ever since. He was so happy about getting it back I'm sure I saw it under his pillow that night.
Title: RE: SAFLIPing Magic
Post by: Graham on November 16, 2012, 09:36:57 AM
Is the paper within the saflip safe?  I understand that not all paper is of an archive quality.

There has to be a solution if we think outside the box.  With regard to writing, I have that many coins in 2x2s that I often/always become lazy and start to scrawl.  I want a print application that I can use to either go around  the 2x2 or act as a backing page.
Title: RE: SAFLIPing Magic
Post by: Fordprefect on November 16, 2012, 10:32:04 AM
Quote from: 'Graham' pid='3225' dateline='1353020817'Is the paper within the saflip safe?  I understand that not all paper is of an archive quality.
Obtain the paper inserts from PPH at time of Saflip purchase,
they will be safe.

Quote from: 'Graham' pid='3225' dateline='1353020817'There has to be a solution if we think outside the box.  With regard to writing, I have that many coins in 2x2s that I often/always become lazy and start to scrawl.  I want a print application that I can use to either go around  the 2x2 or act as a backing page.

Word can be used to make templates for 2X2 direct printing.
(The Self Adhesive type is preffered to print on, they are flat)
The printer of choice is Laser, the card in the 2X2's are not too receptive to Ink Jets.
(http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/ford_prefect/Moving%20Icons/2X2_Printed.jpg)

Ink Jets will work but expect "Ink Dragging" at times
(http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/ford_prefect/Moving%20Icons/2x2_Print_Penny.jpg)

You could Trim the printed 2X2, remove the mylar face,
insert coin and slide into saflip, should work, not done it myself.
Title: RE: SAFLIPing Magic
Post by: enworb on November 16, 2012, 11:58:48 AM
The paper goes on one side of the flip, the coin on the other side. Fold it over and its done. Paper isnt in contact with the coin at all.
Title: RE: SAFLIPing Magic
Post by: trout on November 16, 2012, 12:04:39 PM
Fordperfect, Those are as flash as a rat with a gold tooth.
I'm afraid I wouldn't have the patiance to do that, They do look great tho :good:
Title: RE: SAFLIPing Magic
Post by: markn on November 16, 2012, 12:19:57 PM
Vic Power of VP Coins holders up his coins in SAFLIPs with inserts on the other side.  He's printed on both sides of the inserts, one side with all the descriptive information, the other with a stocking barcode.  Very neatly done and a LOT of work.
Title: RE: SAFLIPing Magic
Post by: acrellin on November 16, 2012, 12:47:21 PM
We had some custom blank labels for a DYMO printer designed, and have been using them for a few months now. These labels fit onto the back window of the saflip, and sit behind the coin when the saflip is folded over.

This has saved us a huge amount of time and looks better than the hand written descriptions we used to have on the white cards we inserted into the back windows before using these.

The printing technology means that the ink is burned onto the label paper, that said you wouldn't want any coin to come into contact with the label just in case. As enworb has said, once folded the chances of something serious like that happening are remote.
Title: RE: SAFLIPing Magic
Post by: ChrisM on January 07, 2013, 08:53:13 PM
Hi,

I have made an office template if anyone is interested. The dimensions are 4.8cm x 4.8cm to allow it to fit.

You can type whatever you like just by clicking on whatever box you wish.

If you are interested let me know and I will post up the .doc file.

Just remember to use archiving paper for printing, you can get this at officeworks (make sure it is acid free) for $10 for 50 sheets.

(https://dl.dropbox.com/u/61828976/2x2info.png)

I have an idea on how to keep coins where they belong in saflips but I am awaiting my ebay purchase and then subsequent purchase of saflips. I am also working out a way to cut the middle out of these squares so I can see both sides of the coin.

If you want any info please ask!

Thanks for a great product in saflips.

Chris
Title: RE: SAFLIPing Magic
Post by: trout on January 07, 2013, 09:43:09 PM
I have been putting the thinking cap on with these flips as well.
I hate that the coin moves in them and you can't write on them.
My solution is buy some staple type 2x2's (cheap as chips) cut them into 2 separate parts.
Then use these to centralise the coin and write /type information on them.
This way you can see both sides of the coin, the information can be on both sides as well and aesthetically they will be more pleasing,
With this method you can even cut the saflips into 2 and double the value of your purchase.
I am waiting on some staple type 2x2’s to arrive plus a heat sealer and I will give this a go.
Title: RE: SAFLIPing Magic
Post by: ausjack on January 08, 2013, 10:15:17 AM
I'd be careful using a heat sealer as you wouldn't want to melt anything..maybe only a 6 pack before ya start mate :drinks:
Title: RE: SAFLIPing Magic
Post by: trout on January 08, 2013, 10:26:01 AM
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='5930' dateline='1357602317'I'd be careful using a heat sealer as you wouldn't want to melt anything..maybe only a 6 pack before ya start mate :drinks:

Or maybe just a couple of cans ay:kez_11::drinks::blackeye:
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Title: RE: SAFLIPing Magic
Post by: ausjack on January 08, 2013, 10:35:07 AM
Yeah like I was saying..no more than a six pack :winkextra: