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Numismatic Discussion => Coin Chit Chat => Topic started by: echidna on July 04, 2014, 08:40:00 PM

Title: A numismatic crime
Post by: echidna on July 04, 2014, 08:40:00 PM
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Package got smashed by Australia Post during transit.
Result was a bent coin.
Would have graded 63RB I think.
Now worthless.
Title: RE: Numismatic crime
Post by: Coins from Vending on July 04, 2014, 08:47:31 PM
what did the packaging look like when it arrived??
Title: RE: Numismatic crime
Post by: echidna on July 04, 2014, 08:56:04 PM
Quote from: 'Coins from Vending' pid='54032' dateline='1404472651'what did the packaging look like when it arrived??


There were two coins in the package which were overlapping and the 1921 penny took the big hit.
The letters ONE PENNY are cut into the plastic of the 2x2 holder.
Title: RE: A numismatic crime
Post by: nealeffendi on July 04, 2014, 10:42:13 PM
Bummer. Is there any way to carefully doctor the penny back to health?
I recognise that penny (I dropped out at $99) and I hoped it went to a collector and not a dealer.
Would it slab up with the missing rim section at 8 on the reverse? (I didn't notice that before in the eBay image).
Plus how would you (or anyone else out there) treat the green on the M (that M is why I dropped out) as I have a potentially slabable penny with a similar problem.
Title: RE: A numismatic crime
Post by: echidna on July 04, 2014, 11:06:55 PM
Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='54036' dateline='1404479533'Bummer. Is there any way to carefully doctor the penny back to health?
I recognise that penny (I dropped out at $99) and I hoped it went to a collector and not a dealer.
Would it slab up with the missing rim section at 8 on the reverse? (I didn't notice that before in the eBay image).
Plus how would you (or anyone else out there) treat the green on the M (that M is why I dropped out) as I have a potentially slabable penny with a similar problem.

I was planning to put it into my registry set rather than sell it.
It would have passed the muster at PCGS I'm sure even with the bit of green and the little planchet flaw.
I've seen much worse get graded OK.

Re treating green stuff - if you want to do so its very easy to fix tiny spots with WD40.
Just touch the spot and leave for a day or so.
Then gently wipe any residue off.
This will preserve the coin from further deterioration.
ie eventually becoming 100% green.
Title: RE: A numismatic crime
Post by: Coiny Chris on July 07, 2014, 05:52:12 AM
Hello,

Sounds like the packaging was part of the problem to me. Have you thought about trying to press it straight ? By this I mean put it between some hardwood, and clamp it in a Vice. The pressure will straighten it, and the wood will stop the surface from being damaged. It may be worth bending a scrap Coin a similar amount and trying. My thoughts anyway.
Title: RE: A numismatic crime
Post by: robbiegal on July 07, 2014, 05:01:29 PM
have you thought of contacting the seller and sending it back?
if the coin wasn't properly packed then surely some of that I seller responsibility
alternatively, doesn't paypal or aussiepost cover for damage in transit?
Title: RE: A numismatic crime
Post by: echidna on July 07, 2014, 06:02:19 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='54206' dateline='1404718289'have you thought of contacting the seller and sending it back?
if the coin wasn't properly packed then surely some of that I seller responsibility
alternatively, doesn't paypal or aussiepost cover for damage in transit?

Yes the seller and I are going 50/50 on the loss.
Packing was OK.
I believe that a claim could be made via Aussie Post.
Max is $100 I think but I could be wrong.
The impact on the packaging is quite visible so such a claim could be successful.
Title: RE: A numismatic crime
Post by: stevo1962 on July 07, 2014, 06:05:29 PM
I would still have a go at flattening the coin out - nothing to lose
Title: RE: A numismatic crime
Post by: echidna on July 07, 2014, 06:18:46 PM
Quote from: 'stevo1962' pid='54212' dateline='1404722129'I would still have a go at flattening the coin out - nothing to lose

There is a small planchet flaw on the rim which has lifted more since taking the photo.
Looks bad.
Title: RE: A numismatic crime
Post by: nealeffendi on July 07, 2014, 11:16:54 PM
Quote from: 'stevo1962' pid='54212' dateline='1404722129'I would still have a go at flattening the coin out - nothing to lose

That would be my way of thinking, practice on some VG Geo V coins or EF QE2 coins to get your technique down pat.
Australia Post isn't the worst at pounding coins, got a letter a week ago that contained (past tense:-/) a mint roll of wartime sixpences. Why did it need cancelling 19 times is beyond me.
Title: RE: A numismatic crime
Post by: Goldseeker on July 08, 2014, 04:19:38 PM
Regardless, if it were me, I would still have a go at Austpost for compensation.