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Title: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: serial on June 06, 2014, 04:19:22 PM
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1898_Russia_5_Roubles_2.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1898_Russia_5_Roubles_1.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1938_brit_penny_c.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1938_brit_penny_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1938_brit_penny_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1962_rhodesia_and_nyasland_penny_c.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1962_rhodesia_and_nyasland_penny_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1962_rhodesia_and_nyasland_penny_a.JPG)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Robster on June 06, 2014, 04:51:28 PM
Just a shame they are in plastic, the reflections take away from the beauty of the coins.  :angel:
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: trout on June 06, 2014, 05:38:14 PM
I selected that ISO 200 , What an amazing difference that made.
I'm actually starting to enjoy taking coin snaps now 

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/canberra~0.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/canberra1~0.jpg)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Robster on June 06, 2014, 05:39:23 PM
Nice.!!
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: accumulator on June 06, 2014, 05:41:30 PM
Yep,lookin good Trout !
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Triggersmob on June 06, 2014, 05:56:16 PM
You both need to take the pics on a slight angle to get the camera lens reflection out of the pics.
That should improve the pics too.
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: markn on June 06, 2014, 06:21:54 PM
What sort of lighting are you both using?
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Coins from Vending on June 06, 2014, 06:58:05 PM
if you have an SLR and know how to use it, you can take really good pics of coins without the flash if you have even neutral light and simply over expose the shot by 2 stops.
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: trout on June 06, 2014, 07:07:51 PM
Quote from: 'markn' pid='51486' dateline='1402044714'What sort of lighting are you both using?

I used sunlight and a Tupperware container as a diffuser :)
Not the best pic in the world but it is a personal best for me on a Canberra florin .
I'll have another play around with the camera  tomorrow.
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: markn on June 06, 2014, 07:10:45 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='51490' dateline='1402047471'
Quote from: 'markn' pid='51486' dateline='1402044714'What sort of lighting are you both using?

I used sunlight and a Tupperware container as a diffuser :)
Not the best pic in the world but it is a personal best for me on a Canberra florin .
I'll have another play around with the camera  tomorrow.

An OTT light can be a good first buy as a light to take coin images with.  And lots of times your missus will have one if she sews or does some sort of crafty hobby.  You could just nick...errr borrow it.
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: trout on June 06, 2014, 07:12:26 PM
What is an ott light Mark?
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Fordprefect on June 06, 2014, 07:41:54 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='51493' dateline='1402047746'What is an ott light Mark?
The Ottlight - Very usefull all purpose "Natural Daylight"
Powered by a "Special Flouro Tube"
(http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/ford_prefect/Australian%20Coin%20Forum/Ottlight01_zpsaf00a801.jpg)
(http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/ford_prefect/Australian%20Coin%20Forum/Ottlight02_zps9fc3b177.jpg)
Turn the lights out, Ottlight On Shoot.
(http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/ford_prefect/Australian%20Coin%20Forum/Ottlight04_zps430bd89a.jpg)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: trout on June 06, 2014, 07:52:48 PM
OK
searching eBay now :)
Not cheap but I now have one on the way :yahoo:
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Fordprefect on June 06, 2014, 08:07:27 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='51497' dateline='1402050168'OK
searching eBay now :)
Not cheap but I now have one on the way :yahoo:
Very handy light when nothing else seems to work.
Our Robbiegirl has been using one for ages and
achieves some great shots using it. :angel:

The coin below is a nice soft satin Unc that just would
not photograph for me under my usuall LED setup.

(http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/ford_prefect/Australian%20Coin%20Forum/Canon%2040D%20Camera/1938ShillingOttlight_zps0eadc297.jpg)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: trout on June 06, 2014, 08:11:42 PM
Great pic Rob, One of these days I may get one half as good :ok:
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Fordprefect on June 06, 2014, 08:27:16 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='51499' dateline='1402051302'Great pic Rob, One of these days I may get one half as good :ok:
That '38 is taken with a DSLR and Dedicated Macro lens.

Keep at it the end results are worth it.

My tip is, pick only nice looking coins to begin with.
An ugly looking coin no matter how well photographed
will allways be an ugly photo. :angel:
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: serial on June 06, 2014, 09:25:27 PM
trout that is a good pic mate, I would be happy with that!
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: trout on June 06, 2014, 09:42:38 PM
Quote from: 'serial' pid='51504' dateline='1402055727'trout that is a good pic mate, I would be happy with that!

Thanks Mate.
I am happy with it as it shows the coin as it is .
Fantastic strike and damn near perfect reverse but the obverse is letting this one down with "cabinet wear" :dash1:
Anyway a three stepper with full lustre is a "Keeper" as far as I am concerned regardless of the unfortunate obverse :good:
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: robbiegal on June 06, 2014, 11:10:59 PM
the otte lights are good
but the replacement bulbs are not cheap!!
though they do usually last for a coupe of years
I get mine at the fabric shop

I had one that wouldn't go,  so got another one
funny, it went again after being in the cupboard for about a year
I thought, humm might just test it before I chuck it out and the damn thing turned on! so now I have two
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: trout on June 07, 2014, 12:20:47 PM
I tried to capture all the colours in the toning on this coin.
Close, but NO Coconut this time :(

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/canada_1971_dollar.jpg)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Robster on June 07, 2014, 12:42:53 PM
These are the first images I have taken which allows me to 'tether' my camera to my laptop.!! I can now focus using controls on the p.c..!
The software lifts the mirror and allows (I hope) to minimise any shake.

(http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o787/robster836/001_zps47da9397.jpg)
(http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o787/robster836/005_zpsd1ab35c2.jpg)
(http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o787/robster836/009_zps8106f368.jpg)
(http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o787/robster836/010_zpseb318841.jpg)
(http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o787/robster836/012_zps475bee53.jpg)
P.S. These are those 'ugly' coins your parents warned you about.:dodgy:
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: serial on June 07, 2014, 12:56:44 PM
That's another good pic, as for capturing the colours well I can't help you s I struggle myself perhaps purple penny can give some advice on that
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: trout on June 07, 2014, 02:16:49 PM
Having some fun taking pics of pennys .

Red
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/1964_penny1.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/1964_penny.jpg)

Brown
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/1928_penny1.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/1928_penny.jpg)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Robster on June 07, 2014, 02:40:45 PM
Nice trout, different colour backgrounds will change the result too.!:idea:
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Fordprefect on June 07, 2014, 02:52:31 PM
Quote from: 'Robster' pid='51563' dateline='1402117845'Nice trout, different colour backgrounds will change the result too.!:idea:
Just like sneeking a D7100 Nikon Body into play hey :dodgy:
That Tokina of your's will perform better if you up the
aperture setting to F8-F11, it's optical sharpness peak.

For background choice, Stick with neutrals at first.
Black white or grey.
The best chance to lift that colour that is there.
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: accumulator on June 07, 2014, 03:10:51 PM
Good to see your having a bit of fun with your camera now Trout .
I've just been seeing if i can capture this die clash both sides properly,not quite as well as i would have liked.

(http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo339/appeangel07_photos/29-9-08/new%20coin%20album/008_zps156cfd02.jpg)

(http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo339/appeangel07_photos/29-9-08/new%20coin%20album/018_zpsa9b9b8f5.jpg)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Coins from Vending on June 07, 2014, 03:40:08 PM
all this talk about cameras really has me itching to get into what I did best, shooting surfing on the gold coast

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r53/patchy001/IMG_4747.jpg) (http://s141.photobucket.com/user/patchy001/media/IMG_4747.jpg.html)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Triggersmob on June 07, 2014, 04:23:31 PM
Quote from: 'Robster' pid='51563' dateline='1402117845'Nice trout, different colour backgrounds will change the result too.!:idea:

I prefer black as it hides the shadows too.
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Fordprefect on June 07, 2014, 04:44:50 PM
The Black and White + Grey Test
Same coin Same Lighting.
Background change.
These are the raw images as the camera has taken them.

On Black Background
(http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/ford_prefect/Coin%20Lighting/IMG_0002_700_Black_zpscbaab5a7.jpg)

On White
(http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/ford_prefect/Coin%20Lighting/IMG_0054_700_White_zps0f3322ed.jpg)

On Grey
(http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/ford_prefect/Coin%20Lighting/IMG_0053_700_Grey_zpsd5e05432.jpg)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: trout on June 07, 2014, 04:47:28 PM
Pretty tricky Rob, Makes it look like 3 different coins :)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: trout on June 08, 2014, 11:55:54 AM
OK
I found the white balance setting and set it on overcast the light outside is crappy and I don't have any good lights.
I also found the ISO setting and set it on 100.
I feel that shooting a camera is very similar to shooting a rifle, There is far more to it than simply pulling the trigger :blush:

Resulting photo's
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/34_35_florin1.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/34_35_florin.jpg)

Here is the same image after I mucked about with the contrast and brightness using the Paint.Net software.

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/34_35_florin3.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/34_35_florin2.jpg)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: accumulator on June 08, 2014, 12:20:42 PM
Seriously i reckon the pics were far better before you mucked about with the contrast & brightness,you can see the detail far better.
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: trout on June 08, 2014, 12:30:33 PM
Quote from: 'accumulator' pid='51682' dateline='1402195842'Seriously i reckon the pics were far better before you mucked about with the contrast & brightness,you can see the detail far better.

I agree, I seriously need some decent lights.
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Robster on June 08, 2014, 12:59:44 PM
Improvement with every effort Trout.!! Photographing coins can be as addictive as the coins themselves.!!
Silver coins can be quite frustrating compared to copper.! :dodgy:
(http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o787/robster836/020_zpsfb95d913.jpg)

(http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o787/robster836/026_zps45d48d61.jpg)
My eyesight is at the stage where what I think is 'in focus' is not necessarily so.! I will quite often take 50 images of the same coin only to delete 49 and then decide the final one is pretty sad too.!! But at least this is possible with digital photography, beats the old 10 day wait to receive the pics back from the chemist .!!:beg:
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: serial on June 08, 2014, 01:22:25 PM
trout they are getting better you just have to wait for a sunny day like me. weather over here is not helping
rob you seem to be getting to much reflection off the coin. it would seem that your light source is the issue here. what do you use?
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: trout on June 08, 2014, 01:28:32 PM
Quote from: 'serial' pid='51692' dateline='1402199545'trout they are getting better you just have to wait for a sunny day like me. weather over here is not helping
rob you seem to be getting to much reflection off the coin. it would seem that your light source is the issue here. what do you use?

Yes the weather is pretty gloomy but I can do with the rain.
My battery on the camera went dead flat so it is on charge for a while anyway :)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Unicorn on June 08, 2014, 02:14:02 PM
Quote from: 'Robster' pid='51690' dateline='1402198184'My eyesight is at the stage where what I think is 'in focus' is not necessarily so.! I will quite often take 50 images of the same coin only to delete 49 and then decide the final one is pretty sad too.!!

:laugh2: .... sounds exactly like me listing stuff on ebay!  The scatter-gun approach.
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Robster on June 08, 2014, 03:06:46 PM
(http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o787/robster836/002_zpsbc17b623.jpg)

After reading page 2 of 700.! :angel:
Uni. :laughingneqw: "When all else fails".
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: robbiegal on June 08, 2014, 03:44:50 PM
Trout - just use a reading lamp mate or your car repairs lamp
the sunlight for photos is downright awful
use artificial light (or an ott light)
the camera gets too confused with natural light beaming in from all directions
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: trout on June 08, 2014, 03:46:04 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='51712' dateline='1402208090'Trout - just use a reading lamp mate or your car repairs lamp
the sunlight for photos is downright awful
use artificial light (or an ott light)
the camera gets too confused with natural light beaming in from all directions

I have one of those ott lights on order, just have to wait for it to get here :dash1:

this is the one I ordered, I hope it is the right one:angel:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/290755028254?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: serial on June 09, 2014, 04:06:32 PM
some pics of recent purchases
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1866_half_sov_2.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1866_half_sov_1.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1927_florin_2.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1927_florin_1.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1927_penny_2.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1927_penny_1.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1964_penny_2.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1964_penny_1.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1961_half_penny_2.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1961_half_penny_1.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1832_to_58_japan_2_shu_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1832_to_58_japan_2_shu_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1832_to_58_japan_Bu_Ichibu_2.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1832_to_58_japan_Bu_Ichibu__1.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1853_to_65_japan_Isshu_Gin_2.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1853_to_65_japan_Isshu_Gin_1.JPG)

some I have had for a whiles as well nut haven't been able to take good pics of them
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: trout on June 09, 2014, 04:47:30 PM
Some Victorian Gold Sovs
All Sydney Mint

Can't wait to get my OTT light

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/1885_sov1.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/1870_sov1.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/1879_sov.jpg)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Robster on June 09, 2014, 04:56:09 PM
Nice coins everyone.! This Penny is kept in a saflip so it can be easily removed, photographed and replaced. I think it is worth the effort.!
Those I have in 2x2's can still be accessed by carefully removing staples, take pic, then replace staples. :angel:

(http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o787/robster836/007_zpsd936b366.jpg)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: robbiegal on June 09, 2014, 05:06:06 PM
yep
the coin holders make it very hard to photograph the coin
they reflect soo much and dull the photo
but Mark seems to have it perfected

ps Trout
those pics are pretty darn good
I will be looking forward to 1927 florin photos soon ...
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: serial on June 11, 2014, 02:24:51 PM
I just got some new coins and made a new light defuser and have some new pics for you to see
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1970_rhodesia_half_cent_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1970_rhodesia_half_cent_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/2010_lunar_5_oz_c.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/2010_lunar_5_oz_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1947_india_half_rupee_d.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1947_india_half_rupee_c.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1952_us_quarter_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1952_us_quarter_a.JPG)

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1971_Mauritius_quart_rupee_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1971_Mauritius_quart_rupee_a.JPG)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Robster on June 11, 2014, 04:10:06 PM
Nice coins.!!
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: ausjack on June 11, 2014, 04:26:05 PM
why is the queen black :) All good serial I know how hard it is to get good pic's of proofs, they either turn out black or white :(
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: trout on June 11, 2014, 05:13:03 PM
If you really want a challenge Get a perfect shot of a Wedding Set coin, These are incredibly hard to photograph due to the blinding luster and perfect finish on these coins  :ok:

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/2008_wedding_set3.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/2008_wedding_set1.jpg)

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/2008_wedding_set.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/2008_wedding_set2.jpg)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: ausjack on June 11, 2014, 05:19:35 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='52102' dateline='1402472583'If you really want a challenge Get a perfect shot of a Wedding Set coin, These are incredibly hard to photograph due to the blinding luster and perfect finish on these coins  :ok:

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/2008_wedding_set3.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/2008_wedding_set1.jpg)

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/2008_wedding_set.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/2008_wedding_set2.jpg)

see what I mean, either black or white but gee they're are just so nice :angel:
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: trout on June 11, 2014, 05:19:51 PM
My Pic's certainly are not the best but even I can do better than PCGS :dance2:

 (http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/pcgs.png)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: ausjack on June 11, 2014, 05:22:04 PM
and why don't more of these coins get ms70 has me beat :dodgy:

I think a lot of PCGS's pic's are actually scans now if you have a good look as they have that steely grey look and show every little imperfection on the coin
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: trout on June 11, 2014, 05:26:01 PM
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='52105' dateline='1402473124'and why don't more of these coins get ms70 has me beat :dodgy:

A large percentage will get MS68-69 but MS70 is a Big call and ANY minute blemish will stop you getting that grade.
But Hay that doesn't stop us trying for the holey grail MS70 :)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Robster on June 11, 2014, 05:44:22 PM
"Shiny". :wavemulticolor: Great looking coins and "Shiny".!! :sun_bespectacled:
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: trout on June 11, 2014, 05:53:56 PM
Quote from: 'Robster' pid='52111' dateline='1402474462'"Shiny". :wavemulticolor: Great looking coins and "Shiny".!! :sun_bespectacled:

I think every collector should get at least one of the older Wedding sets ( Not the proof ones) just to see just how well the mint CAN make our coins :good:
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Robster on June 11, 2014, 06:06:41 PM
Totally agree Trout, now if more couples would divorce.!! :blush:
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Triggersmob on June 11, 2014, 06:07:53 PM
Beautiful coins Guys. You're getting the hang of the coin photography.
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: trout on June 14, 2014, 01:33:18 PM
Same coin, Same settings and same angle.
Two different backgrounds , WOW what a difference it makes.

  (http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/black.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/white.jpg)
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Post by: robbiegal on June 14, 2014, 02:02:45 PM
great
I find dark colours soak out the colour in silver coins
and white/light backgrounds bring out the colours
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Post by: Robster on June 14, 2014, 05:07:15 PM
Agreed Robbie, good to see Trout has a new 'addiction'.!! :angel:
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Post by: trout on June 16, 2014, 02:54:39 PM
Lighting differences
Same coin taken outside in the sunlight
The first set of images are free hand and the second set are taken using my U beut  flash tupperware "Diffuser"

First set
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/r1.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/r.jpg)

Second set
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/r3.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/r2.jpg)
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Post by: trout on June 16, 2014, 05:03:16 PM
A couple of penny pic's.
I love the streaking in the metal on these coins even though the TPG's hate it :angel:

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/1d~0.jpg)

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/1d1~0.jpg)
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Post by: serial on June 16, 2014, 05:03:28 PM
are you getting full sunlight on that defuser?
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Post by: trout on June 16, 2014, 05:10:07 PM
Quote from: 'serial' pid='52642' dateline='1402904008'are you getting full sunlight on that defuser?
It is not really a diffuser,  It is a small Tupperware measuring jug I stole from the cupboard and cut a hole in the bottom of it :angel:
The Missus never uses it anyway ( By the Gods I hope not) and I thought I would give it a go.
Yes the pic's were taken in Sunlight :ok:
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Post by: serial on June 16, 2014, 05:21:57 PM
it seems a bit thick. I find even a milk carton gets rid of to much light sometimes
here are some of mine I shot quickly
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1080b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1080a.JPG)
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Post by: trout on June 16, 2014, 05:27:47 PM
I think EVERY West Aussie collector should have one of those, Despite the Huge rim cud inherent  on most of them :good:
Nice pic's Mate .
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Post by: serial on June 16, 2014, 05:30:35 PM
well I have a few and this one can be yours if you want it (on ebay atm). but I would think you can do better than this example

another great Australian medal
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1101b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1101a.JPG)
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Post by: trout on June 16, 2014, 05:34:12 PM
Quote from: 'serial' pid='52649' dateline='1402905635'well I have a few and this one can be yours if you want it (on ebay atm). but I would think you can do better than this example

I have that one covered Mate :)
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Post by: serial on June 16, 2014, 05:34:27 PM
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1102c.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1102b.JPG)
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Post by: robbiegal on June 16, 2014, 07:53:37 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='52644' dateline='1402904407'
Quote from: 'serial' pid='52642' dateline='1402904008'are you getting full sunlight on that defuser?
It is not really a diffuser,  It is a small Tupperware measuring jug I stole from the cupboard and cut a hole in the bottom of it :angel:
The Missus never uses it anyway ( By the Gods I hope not) and I thought I would give it a go.
Yes the pic's were taken in Sunlight :ok:

I HOPE THAT THE MISSES NEVER USES IT !!!!
boy oh boy
golden rule of a happy marriage
NEVER EVER mess with the Tupperware stores ......

if push comes to shove and you have to fess up - the ladies here might be able to send a post haste replacement and at the same time - save a marriage!! ha ha
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Post by: trout on June 16, 2014, 09:30:12 PM
AW gawd the things I do for my hobby could be "Life threatening" :angel:
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Post by: trout on June 18, 2014, 12:30:17 PM
My OTT light has arrived and my Camera battery is on charge, Pic's Will surely follow :diablo::)
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Post by: robbiegal on June 18, 2014, 12:34:11 PM
takes a bit of getting used to but I reckon you will blitz it in now time possum
have fun
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Post by: trout on June 18, 2014, 01:26:29 PM
TRUE Colors at last :dance2::yahoo::)
This OTT light is outstanding  

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/ott2.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/ott.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/ott1.jpg)
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Post by: serial on June 18, 2014, 01:35:13 PM
have you got before pics?
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Post by: trout on June 18, 2014, 01:39:48 PM
Quote from: 'serial' pid='52842' dateline='1403064313'have you got before pics?

I have out pic's of these 3 coins up lately, Not sure where but :angel:
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Post by: Unicorn on June 18, 2014, 01:40:09 PM
Quote from: 'serial' pid='52842' dateline='1403064313'have you got before pics?

I think the lower coin is pictured half way down this page ...
http://www.australian-coins.net/showthread.php?tid=2666&page=7 (http://www.australian-coins.net/showthread.php?tid=2666&page=7)
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Post by: trout on June 18, 2014, 01:44:58 PM
Here they are

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/canberra~0.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/white.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/r2.jpg)
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Post by: serial on June 18, 2014, 01:55:56 PM
that 2nd one is better on one side but not on the other. the last one shows so much more colour it would make it worth it by its self. I am thinking you need to play with the light angle and white balance a bit. it makes me want to buy one now!
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Post by: trout on June 18, 2014, 02:09:11 PM
Small silver Pic's
The ISO 100 setting really picks up every detail on a coin even ones so small.
Just have to have a steady hand.

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/64_3d1.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/64_3d.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/59_3d1.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/59_3d.jpg)

I just had another look at the pic's.
Is that a tiny clip on the 1964 coin?
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Post by: serial on June 18, 2014, 02:17:09 PM
they are nice!
was the 64 in plastic/2x2?
and I would think that looks like a small clip
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Post by: serial on June 18, 2014, 03:58:31 PM
I think I am starting to get this photography business
1898 morgan dollar I have had for a while
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1898_morgan_dollar_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1898_morgan_dollar_a.JPG)
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Post by: Robster on June 18, 2014, 04:29:52 PM
Nice die crack.! (and pics.).
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Post by: trout on June 18, 2014, 05:05:29 PM
Dark and battered coins show all their character marks when using the OTT light as well :good:

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/crown.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/crown1.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/jersy.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/jersy1.jpg)
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Post by: markn on June 18, 2014, 06:22:31 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='52861' dateline='1403076929'Dark and battered coins show all their character marks when using the OTT light as well :good:

You need to slow your shutter down a bit, those are underexposed.  But SOOOOOOOO much better than the ones taken outside in the sun.
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Post by: trout on June 18, 2014, 06:37:07 PM
QuoteYou need to slow your shutter down a bit, those are underexposed. But SOOOOOOOO much better than the ones taken outside in the sun.

I'm down to ISO 100 and that is all my Camera can do :cray:
Maybe its time to bite the bullet and get a real Camera with a proper lenses , stand and all the fruit :)
Tax return time is coming and it wouldn't be the first time I have blown my check an my hobby :angel:
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Post by: markn on June 18, 2014, 06:52:03 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='52874' dateline='1403082427'
QuoteYou need to slow your shutter down a bit, those are underexposed. But SOOOOOOOO much better than the ones taken outside in the sun.

I'm down to ISO 100 and that is all my Camera can do :cray:
Maybe its time to bite the bullet and get a real Camera with a proper lenses , stand and all the fruit :)
Tax return time is coming and it wouldn't be the first time I have blown my check an my hobby :angel:

No, that's not shutter speed, that's film sensitivity emulation.  Do you control the shutter speed or F-Stop at all?  Or do you leave all of that on automatic?  You could try changing to ISO200 see if you get any loss of detail (but you'll get brighter images).

EDIT

I've just had a look at the EXIF data on the image of the jersey coin.  It's taken at f3.4 and 1/90 second with an exposure compensation of -0.3 step.  Get rid of the exposure compensation to begin with, that's making the images darker.  Even set it to +0.3 or +0.6.  If your camera has shutter priority mode you could set it to 1/60 and hope the camera keeps the F3.4 aperture.  Or if it has full manual set it to F3.4 and change the shutter speed to 1/60.
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Post by: trout on June 18, 2014, 06:56:35 PM
I have a setting for image quality that has 2 options, Fine and Normal .
No F stop setting.

The Camera I have at the moment is a "Point and Shoot" jobbie that cost me less than $300.
I imagine that I don't have the additional settings and capabilities with this unit.
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Post by: markn on June 18, 2014, 07:01:31 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='52879' dateline='1403083595'I have a setting for image quality that has 2 options, Fine and Normal .
No F stop setting.

The Camera I have at the moment is a "Point and Shoot" jobbie that cost me less than $300.
I imagine that I don't have the additional settings and capabilities with this unit.

Fuji Finepix T200 has no aperture or shutter priority or manual mode.  Bugger.  Fiddle with the exposure compensation then and perhaps try it on ISO200.
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Post by: markn on June 18, 2014, 07:02:19 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='52879' dateline='1403083595'I have a setting for image quality that has 2 options, Fine and Normal .
No F stop setting.


The Camera I have at the moment is a "Point and Shoot" jobbie that cost me less than $300.
I imagine that I don't have the additional settings and capabilities with this unit.

Not to worry, the images are an order of magnitude better than what you were taking a week ago.
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Post by: trout on June 18, 2014, 07:19:02 PM
QuoteFuji Finepix T200 has no aperture or shutter priority or manual mode.

A bit like owning a Volkswagen when you really need a Ferrari :dash1:

QuoteNot to worry, the images are an order of magnitude better than what you were taking a week ago

Thanks Mate I really appreciate that coming from you.:yahoo:
I will muck about more with my "Volksie" a bit  and get off my "L" plates then I am seriously thinking of getting a decent unit.

I am really enjoying this aspect of the hobby and I love learning new stuff, So when I have "Upgraded" my brain I will have to do the same with my tools :)
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Post by: robbiegal on June 18, 2014, 07:49:54 PM
my camera was WELL under $300 & it takes great snaps (well I think it does)
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Post by: trout on June 18, 2014, 07:53:36 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='52883' dateline='1403086794'my camera was WELL under $300 & it takes great snaps (well I think it does)

:agreed:
Yes you do take great pic's Mate :good:
I now have my OTT light and the World is my oyster.
I just want bigger, better and faster ......................its a "Bloke" thing :angel::)
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Post by: robbiegal on June 18, 2014, 08:00:26 PM
doesn't have to be exy though
here's some info about mine and it set me back $170 on special
http://www.ephotozine.com/article/olympus-sz-14-compact-digital-camera-review-18478

my son bought a great canon for around $600 and he takes absolutely fantastic photos

now, I know if used that same camera the pics would be no where near the same quality

he has figured out all that stuff that Mark and the other photo buffs talk about
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Post by: markn on June 18, 2014, 08:02:58 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='52887' dateline='1403087426'doesn't have to be exy though
my son bought a great canon for around $600 and he takes absolutely fantastic photos

now, I know if used that same camera the pics would be no where near the same quality

he has figured out all that stuff that Mark and the other photo buffs talk about

Our old Nikon point and shoot was $400 or so a few years back and that does everything you could think of.  It took perfectly acceptable images.
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Post by: trout on June 18, 2014, 08:07:59 PM
QuoteOur old Nikon point and shoot was $400 or so a few years back and that does everything you could think of. It took perfectly acceptable images.
So you bought a bigger, better faster one Because.....................:angel::)
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Post by: robbiegal on June 18, 2014, 08:16:00 PM
yeah yeah
it's a bloke thing

I do understand ... because Tupperware is a chick thing and my hubby just doesn't get it either
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Post by: trout on June 18, 2014, 08:23:30 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='52895' dateline='1403088360'yeah yeah
it's a bloke thing

I do understand ... because Tupperware is a chick thing and my hubby just doesn't get it either

Crikey don't mention the Tupperware , I am still living on the edge at the moment :laugh2:
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Post by: robbiegal on June 18, 2014, 08:27:51 PM
ha ha
and so you should

us Tupperware chicks have to stick together and protect our secret womens' plastic stuff

I am surprised that she doesn't have the Tupperware cupboard booby trapped
you'd be getting the rat trap snapped fingers if you were my old man ha ha
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Post by: markn on June 18, 2014, 08:29:55 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='52891' dateline='1403087879'
QuoteOur old Nikon point and shoot was $400 or so a few years back and that does everything you could think of. It took perfectly acceptable images.
So you bought a bigger, better faster one Because.....................:angel::)

Bigger is better.  Obviously. :tease:
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Post by: proof27 on June 18, 2014, 08:30:14 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='52895' dateline='1403088360'yeah yeah
it's a bloke thing

I do understand ... because Tupperware is a chick thing and my hubby just doesn't get it either

Probably shouldn't mention this,,buut, I keep an eye out for old Tupperware, bright colours, certain design on containers, some are worth good money. Anyway back to coins.
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Post by: trout on June 18, 2014, 08:31:36 PM
HeHeHe
The missus saw my new OTT light on my desk (Folded up) and enquired as to why I needed such a big "Speaker".
I just shrugged and let that one go :) :diablo:
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Post by: robbiegal on June 18, 2014, 08:33:11 PM
don't tell her
she'll have that old dusty embroidery kit out in no time and you'll never lay hands on the ott light again!

you have been warned of the way of the woman

:agreed:
Quote from: 'proof27' pid='52903' dateline='1403089214'
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='52895' dateline='1403088360'yeah yeah
it's a bloke thing

I do understand ... because Tupperware is a chick thing and my hubby just doesn't get it either

Probably shouldn't mention this,,buut, I keep an eye out for old Tupperware, bright colours, certain design on containers, some are worth good money. Anyway back to coins.

gotta love it !! :heart: :agreed:
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Post by: trout on June 19, 2014, 08:42:47 AM
OK
ISO 200 and  image quality set at Normal

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/jersy3.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/jersy2.jpg)
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Post by: serial on June 19, 2014, 08:54:30 AM
your taking the pictures at a slight angle?
you should try to be above the coin
bring the light source closer as well

but that is better than the previous one
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Post by: markn on June 19, 2014, 09:31:00 AM
Here's a tough one to image.  It's got lovely toning and you can only get it to "pop" when the coin is tilted.  So I tilt it adjust the focus so that the middle of the medal is in focus and the top and bottom is always slightly out of focus.  Even when I set the F stop to F19 or F22.  I thought at that level the focal plane would be wide enough to get the whole thing in focus.  But no.  Anyone got any suggestions?

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/australia-1966-sydney-coin-club-changeover-silver.jpg)
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Post by: trout on June 19, 2014, 09:39:02 AM
Quote from: 'serial' pid='52961' dateline='1403133870'your taking the pictures at a slight angle?
you should try to be above the coin
bring the light source closer as well


but that is better than the previous one

This coin is the color of Dark chocolate in hand.
When I take a pic  directly above it you can hardly see the details on it.
I had to shoot on an angle to get a decent shot :ok:

Same settings but shot directly above the coin .

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/jersy5.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/jersy4.jpg)
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Post by: Fordprefect on June 19, 2014, 11:24:43 AM
Quote from: 'markn' pid='52964' dateline='1403136060'Here's a tough one to image.  It's got lovely toning and you can only get it to "pop" when the coin is tilted.  So I tilt it adjust the focus so that the middle of the medal is in focus and the top and bottom is always slightly out of focus.  Even when I set the F stop to F19 or F22.  I thought at that level the focal plane would be wide enough to get the whole thing in focus.  But no.  Anyone got any suggestions?
The depth of field needs to be increased(Obvious)

Increase the distance lens to coin, you will lose the coin filling
the sensor but the DoF will increase, maybe enough?
From what I have observed with my lens +25mm = .3mm increase DoF.
_____________________________________
The dark science of Photo Stacking may well be the path.
Outside my knowledge level though.
The CCF camera gurus use it to great effect.
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Post by: markn on June 19, 2014, 11:41:59 AM
Quote from: 'Fordprefect' pid='52968' dateline='1403142883'Increase the distance lens to coin, you will lose the coin filling
the sensor but the DoF will increase, maybe enough?
From what I have observed with my lens +25mm = .3mm increase DoF.

Yes, I already tried that thinking that it would make a bit of difference (and it did).  There's about 6 inches of travel left that I can try.  Will take another shot a bit later today.
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Post by: serial on June 19, 2014, 11:42:28 AM
hhhmm that's a tough nut to crack trout
out of interest which pictures best represents its appearance "in hand" ?
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Fordprefect on June 19, 2014, 12:40:30 PM
Quote from: 'markn' pid='52970' dateline='1403143919'
Quote from: 'Fordprefect' pid='52968' dateline='1403142883'
Yes, I already tried that thinking that it would make a bit of difference (and it did).  There's about 6 inches of travel left that I can try.  Will take another shot a bit later today.
Have attached the Canon 100mm Macro DoF Chart.
Your Tamron should be very close.
(http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/ford_prefect/Australian%20Coin%20Forum/Canon%2040D%20Camera/100mmCanonDoFChart_zps1d4a82a1.jpg)
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Post by: markn on June 19, 2014, 12:53:41 PM
Quote from: 'Fordprefect' pid='52974' dateline='1403147430'
Quote from: 'markn' pid='52970' dateline='1403143919'
Quote from: 'Fordprefect' pid='52968' dateline='1403142883'
Yes, I already tried that thinking that it would make a bit of difference (and it did).  There's about 6 inches of travel left that I can try.  Will take another shot a bit later today.
Have attached the Canon 100mm Macro DoF Chart.
Your Tamron should be very close.
(http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/ford_prefect/Australian%20Coin%20Forum/Canon%2040D%20Camera/100mmCanonDoFChart_zps1d4a82a1.jpg)

Thanks.  If I get the copystand at full extension I would be close to 50cm and a DOF of 12mm or so.  That would be enough.  I'll have to give it a go,
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Post by: trout on June 19, 2014, 01:21:17 PM
Quote from: 'serial' pid='52971' dateline='1403143948'hhhmm that's a tough nut to crack trout
out of interest which pictures best represents its appearance "in hand" ?

The dark ones are pretty spot on
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Post by: serial on June 23, 2014, 03:47:03 PM
it was a bit quiet so I thought I would have a photo session. note this is my 1st attempt at photographing slabbed coins and the coins are all in 2x2s
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1923_Aus_Threepence.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1923_Aus_Threepence_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1934_overdate_5_Aus_Threepence_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1934_overdate_5_Aus_Threepence_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1942m_Aus_Threepence_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1942m_Aus_Threepence_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1964_Aus_Threepence_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1964_Aus_Threepence_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1910_Aus_sixpence_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1910_Aus_sixpence_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1925_Aus_sixpence_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1925_Aus_sixpence_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1954_Aus_Threepence_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1954_Aus_Threepence_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1935_Aus_sixpence_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1935_Aus_sixpence_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1939_Aus_sixpence_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1939_Aus_sixpence_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1940_Aus_sixpence_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1940_Aus_sixpence_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1952_Aus_sixpence_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1952_Aus_sixpence_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1956_Aus_sixpence_B.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1956_Aus_sixpence_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1917m_Aus_Shilling_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1917m_Aus_Shilling_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1922_Aus_Shilling_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1922_Aus_Shilling_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1927_Aus_Shilling_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1927_Aus_Shilling_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1931_Aus_Shilling_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1931_Aus_Shilling_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1935_Aus_Shilling_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1935_Aus_Shilling_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1936_Aus_Shilling_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1936_Aus_Shilling_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1939_Aus_Shilling_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1939_Aus_Shilling_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1941_Aus_Shilling_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1941_Aus_Shilling_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1953_Aus_Shilling_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1953_Aus_Shilling_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1956_Aus_Shilling_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1956_Aus_Shilling_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1911_Aus_florin_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1911_Aus_florin_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1917m_Aus_florin_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1917m_Aus_florin_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1927_Aus_florin_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1927_Aus_florin_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1931_Aus_florin_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1931_Aus_florin_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1935_Aus_florin_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1935_Aus_florin_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1936_Aus_florin_c.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1936_Aus_florin_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1936_Aus_florin_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1959_Aus_florin_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1959_Aus_florin_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1873_Aus_half_sov_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1873_Aus_half_sov_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1927_Aus_penny_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1927_Aus_penny_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1920_no_dot_Aus_penny_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1920_no_dot_Aus_penny_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1925_broken_N_Aus_penny_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1925_broken_N_Aus_penny_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/2000_aus_50_cent_incuse_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/2000_aus_50_cent_incuse_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1995_aus_20_cent_unuseal_colour_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1995_aus_20_cent_unuseal_colour_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1972_aus_5_cent_unc_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1972_aus_5_cent_unc_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1972_aus_10_cent_unc_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1972_aus_10_cent_unc_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1883_india_half_rup_pcgs_64_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1883_india_half_rup_pcgs_64_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1903_india_quart_rup_pcgs_65_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1903_india_quart_rup_pcgs_65_a.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1889_japan_yen_pcgs_62_b.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/1889_japan_yen_pcgs_62_a.JPG)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Triggersmob on June 23, 2014, 07:24:47 PM
That would have to be the longest post I have ever seen :)
The pics are pretty good considering they are slabbed or in 2x2s.
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Australian coin on June 23, 2014, 09:53:20 PM
threepences (I do not grade)
34 over date - top loop maybe, need a clearer pic +$45 -$70
42 plain $8 - $15
54 (die cracks) A's - ($1- $3 for any type of basic die crack)

price is only what I used to pay for scrappy ones years ago, yours are probably better than mine
die you purchase them cheaper ;)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Australian coin on June 24, 2014, 12:14:24 PM
*did, wow can't spell, wrong key
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Fr45h3R on June 24, 2014, 06:36:48 PM
Got an Ott-Lite today after seeing them for under $60 on eBay the other day and seeing good recommendations from other users.

Set the camera's White balance to Auto, and it done the rest.

A little bit overexposed, but I'll work it out.

[attachment=2849]

[attachment=2850]
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Fordprefect on June 24, 2014, 11:55:54 PM
Quote from: 'Fr45h3R' pid='53344' dateline='1403600808'Got an Ott-Lite today after seeing them for under $60 on eBay the other day and seeing good recommendations from other users.
Set the camera's White balance to Auto, and it done the rest.
A little bit overexposed, but I'll work it out.
With your D200 go full manual.
Set Aperture to F11
Shutter to 1/40th
ISO setting 400(Max)
Less would be better but you would need
to reduce shutter speed to compensate.
A 200 ISO setting would have you shooting at 1/20th.

_______________________________________________
serial
I'll have a look with fresh eyes tomorrow.(It's a scrollar)
Your little Olympus looks pretty competent
but a quick squiz at some of the settings being selected,
the little thing is making some poor decisions.

The point and shoots don't perform all that well
trying to focus through 2X2 Flips (and slabs).
Sacrifice the flip and Photograph the coin.
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Fr45h3R on June 25, 2014, 11:11:43 PM
Quote from: 'Fordprefect' pid='53367' dateline='1403619954'With your D200 go full manual.
Set Aperture to F11
Shutter to 1/40th
ISO setting 400(Max)
Less would be better but you would need
to reduce shutter speed to compensate.
A 200 ISO setting would have you shooting at 1/20th.
Thanks Fordprefect,
I tried those settings and they worked well. I could remove the -1.0 adjustment I had set, as I had it in aperture mode on F11 and let it work the shutter speed out itself.
I can probably shoot at 200 ISO as I have the camera on a copy stand.
[attachment=2851]
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: echidna on June 27, 2014, 11:03:23 PM
(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc462/joseywales10/P1010011_zpse96b4309.jpg)
(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc462/joseywales10/P1010010_zpsf828ce6d.jpg)

Camera is an Olympus 720SW.
Sitting on a small tripod.
Set to ISO200.
Image quality is SQ1 (2304x1728)
Dont know much more than that.
Images are reasonable.
Still a bit fuzzy.
Any sugestions to improve quality ?
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Fordprefect on June 28, 2014, 01:13:42 PM
Quote from: 'echidna' pid='53518' dateline='1403876003'Camera is an Olympus 720SW.
Sitting on a small tripod.
Set to ISO200.
Image quality is SQ1 (2304x1728)
Dont know much more than that.
Images are reasonable.
Still a bit fuzzy.
Any sugestions to improve quality ?
There are DSLR users out there that would be
happy if their images were as good as your getting. :angel:

The slight "Fuzzy" focus could be camera movement when
you hit the shutter button.
Try using the the self timer to activate shutter release.

Depth of field also can effect apparent not so crisp focus.
Within your camera's Program Modes see if you have an
Aperture priority Mode.
If yes, set aperture to F8 or higher if available.

Otherwise keep producing what you currently are shooting,
or take the next step into DSLR+Macro Lens land.
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: echidna on June 29, 2014, 12:54:25 AM
Quote from: 'Fordprefect' pid='53584' dateline='1403927022'
Quote from: 'echidna' pid='53518' dateline='1403876003'Camera is an Olympus 720SW.
Sitting on a small tripod.
Set to ISO200.
Image quality is SQ1 (2304x1728)
Dont know much more than that.
Images are reasonable.
Still a bit fuzzy.
Any sugestions to improve quality ?
There are DSLR users out there that would be
happy if their images were as good as your getting. :angel:

The slight "Fuzzy" focus could be camera movement when
you hit the shutter button.
Try using the the self timer to activate shutter release.

Depth of field also can effect apparent not so crisp focus.
Within your camera's Program Modes see if you have an
Aperture priority Mode.
If yes, set aperture to F8 or higher if available.

Otherwise keep producing what you currently are shooting,
or take the next step into DSLR+Macro Lens land.

Thanks for the tips.
I see now that its got:
Maximum aperture f/3.5 to f/5.0
Self-timer for delayed shutter release.
White balance (color) adjustment.
Will give them a go and see if I can do any better.
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: trout on June 29, 2014, 08:14:28 AM
Ok
Looking around for a new camera setup.
What are the speccs that I will have to look for eg how many megapics , lens size etc and which brands are good?

How does this one stack up?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Sony-A350-DSLR-and-Accessories-/231266754838?pt=AU_Digital_Cameras&hash=item35d892a116
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Fordprefect on June 29, 2014, 11:17:21 AM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='53677' dateline='1403995468'Ok
Looking around for a new camera setup.
What are the speccs that I will have to look for eg how many megapics , lens size etc and which brands are good?

How does this one stack up?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Sony-A350-DSLR-and-Accessories-/231266754838?pt=AU_Digital_Cameras&hash=item35d892a116
For coin photography it is not in the right state.
Good bit of gear for general snapping though.

You should probably start a new thread
in the General Chat forum,
The Canon V Nikon will then begin. :angel:
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: robbiegal on June 29, 2014, 11:08:15 PM
here's the sony specs
it is also a discontinued model
http://www.sony.com.au/product/dslr-a350
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: trout on July 01, 2014, 06:07:45 PM
I just took some snaps of the same coin with different lighting angles.
I looks like 4 different coins .

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/light3.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/light2.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/light1.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/light.jpg)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Robster on July 01, 2014, 06:20:49 PM
Certainly changes the look, would be a difficult coin to get 'life like'.
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: trout on July 01, 2014, 06:27:48 PM
Quote from: 'Robster' pid='53859' dateline='1404204649'Certainly changes the look, would be a difficult coin to get 'life like'.

The bottom pic is the most realistic :good:
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: markn on July 13, 2014, 08:20:07 PM
I posted earlier in this thread with some problems getting a tilted coin in focus.  I've hit on a new solution called "focus stacking".  Basically this means taking several images of the item with the focus point on different planes and then using some software to combine the image to get a single in-focus image.  I'm fairly happy with the results.  Below you can see IMAGE 1 which is focused on the top of the medal, IMAGE 2 which is focused on the middle of the medal, and IMAGE 3 which is focused on the bottom.  The final result is at the bottom.

IMAGE 1 (top focus)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/Img1811.JPG)
IMAGE 2 (centre focus)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/Img1812.JPG)
IMAGE 3 (bottom focus)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/Img1813.JPG)
FINAL RESULT (focus stacked image)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/rectangle_New-Out99999-Do_Stack5B12C02C15D.jpg)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: markn on July 13, 2014, 08:33:10 PM
And here's the other side done with the same technique.

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/rectangle_New-Out99999-Do_Stack5B12C02C15D~0.jpg)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: robbiegal on July 13, 2014, 08:41:58 PM
my camera has something like a 3 d setting
I wonder if it uses the same method? - it clicks a few times when the shutter is set off for the photo
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: markn on July 13, 2014, 08:43:09 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='54611' dateline='1405249918'my camera has something like a 3 d setting
I wonder if it uses the same method? - it clicks a few times when the shutter is set off for the photo

I bet it is.  I should read the manual on this beast and see if it does it.
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: robbiegal on July 13, 2014, 08:52:37 PM
mine is called  3D in the setting selector
they look ok too - I think maybe I should try taking one as I haven't used it for ages


a couple that I just played around with
not sure if they are all that spectacular
the second one is extremely glossy so it came up ok really  
it takes just one overlay photo - not 2 & I had to line it up manually which might take some more practice
(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/P7130018_zps34c73897.jpg)(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/P7130017_zps4bf17fdf.jpg)(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/P7130023_zpsfc24dcb1.jpg)(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/P7130024_zpsdd650288.jpg)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Australian coin on July 13, 2014, 11:09:59 PM
o nice pics markn, it does make the medal look really good, gives it good detail, I like the image :) pity you cant see all coins for sale like that :) nothing would get by me then :P
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: trout on July 31, 2014, 02:17:45 PM
These are the first coin pic's from my new setup I haven't fitted the special Macro lens yet, this is taken with the standard lens.
Not the best but it should improve when I get acquainted with the camera properly 

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/nikon1.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/nikon.jpg)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Australian coin on July 31, 2014, 02:23:24 PM
the light is reflecting of the surface
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: JeffH on July 31, 2014, 02:34:44 PM
Maybe stop the lens down (that is bigger F number) a little could help. Also try experimenting with diffusing your lights a little -a front cover cut from a translucent milk bottle or similar could be a good "Heath Robinson" experiment. Don't melt the plastic though!
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: trout on July 31, 2014, 02:41:01 PM
Just mucking about with it at the moment .
I will get serious when I change to the TAMRON SP AF 90mm f/2.8 F2.8 DI MACRO 1:1 Lens :ok:
It left Perth today so I should have it tomorrow :)

It is a bit weird looking through a view finder instead of just looking on the screen when I shoot a pic.
When I get around to tethering it to the computer it shold be more user friendly :angel:
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: serial on July 31, 2014, 03:25:17 PM
have you tried getting your lights to shine on a 45% angle instead of directly onto the coin?
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: trout on July 31, 2014, 03:34:43 PM
Quote from: 'serial' pid='55929' dateline='1406786117'have you tried getting your lights to shine on a 45% angle instead of directly onto the coin?

I haven't relay set anything up properly yet, I am waiting for the Macro lens to arrive.
Just wanted to shoot something, A bit like when you get a new rifle and blast away at a target until you get used to it :)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: serial on July 31, 2014, 03:55:09 PM
" A bit like when you get a new rifle and blast away at a target until you get used to "
living in perth means I don't know what this is like.
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: trout on July 31, 2014, 04:14:03 PM
Quote from: 'serial' pid='55931' dateline='1406787909'" A bit like when you get a new rifle and blast away at a target until you get used to "
living in perth means I don't know what this is like.

SEE
There are some advantages of living in the middle of nowhere :dance::dance2::dance::)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: serial on July 31, 2014, 04:22:27 PM
hhhmm true but I will live with good health care close by, low transportation cost, free regular inner-city entertainment and greater number of amenities.
:P
oh and did I mention a larger pool of people wanting to sell their "inherited" collections :)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: trout on July 31, 2014, 04:45:54 PM
Quote from: 'serial' pid='55935' dateline='1406789547'hhhmm true but I will live with good health care close by, low transportation cost, free regular inner-city entertainment and greater number of amenities.
:P
oh and did I mention a larger pool of people wanting to sell their "inherited" collections :)

Each to their own Mate, I personally couldn't live the "Battery Hen" existence of the City.
When I left the UK I was living in London which would make Perth look like a small country town and I don't miss it one iota :)
I live about 30k's out of Geraldton which has good health care (Not that I need it) and all the shops etc. that most people would need ( NO coin stores though) :dash1:
I never need to lock up the house or worry about noise or unsocial people annoying me.
My nearest neighbour is 7k's away so no problem having a "Shin Dig" here :)
YES there are some advantages living in the City But not enough to tempt me to move there.
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: robbiegal on July 31, 2014, 04:52:14 PM
" A bit like when you get a new rifle and blast away at a target until you get used to "

I see why you never need to lock up!!
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Fordprefect on July 31, 2014, 04:59:18 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='55926' dateline='1406783461'It is a bit weird looking through a view finder instead of just looking on the screen when I shoot a pic.
When I get around to tethering it to the computer it shold be more user friendly :angel:

Press the indicated button and you change the camera mode
to live view with the screen displaying what's going on.
(http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/ford_prefect/Australian%20Coin%20Forum/Canon%2040D%20Camera/nikon_d3200_07a_zps5b7d9123.jpg)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: trout on July 31, 2014, 05:12:42 PM
You Da Man.:wavemulticolor:
AWSOME :dance2:
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: ausproofs on July 31, 2014, 06:47:10 PM
I have done a new set up today to test the pics. without too much sweat, this is what I managed to capture.

[attachment=2888]

[attachment=2887]
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: robbiegal on July 31, 2014, 07:20:30 PM
excellent
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: trout on July 31, 2014, 07:28:23 PM
A bit dark and the details are hard to see But what a lovely coin.
Has to be MS65 at least.
I am by no means an expert but increase the lighting and the ISO and I think you will get a better image I think.
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: robbiegal on July 31, 2014, 07:32:13 PM
is it your screen trout?
The photos look fairly bright to me - on my screen here
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Fordprefect on July 31, 2014, 07:56:19 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='55948' dateline='1406800703'I am by no means an expert but increase the lighting and the ISO and I think you will get a better image I think.

Perzacerly

Lighting is fine:
ISO is fine:

Increase Aperture to F11, maybe even F16.
This will enhance the Depth of Field which in
turn will allow the focus and sharpness to increase.
(Still pay attention to physical focus)
Shutter speed will be halved at least.

Try a combination of
Aperture F11
Shutter 1/120 - 1/100
or
Aperture F16
Shutter 1/60
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Post by: ausproofs on July 31, 2014, 08:28:45 PM
Quote from: 'Fordprefect' pid='55950' dateline='1406802379'
Quote from: 'trout' pid='55948' dateline='1406800703'I am by no means an expert but increase the lighting and the ISO and I think you will get a better image I think.

Perzacerly

Lighting is fine:
ISO is fine:

Increase Aperture to F11, maybe even F16.
This will enhance the Depth of Field which in
turn will allow the focus and sharpness to increase.
(Still pay attention to physical focus)
Shutter speed will be halved at least.

Try a combination of
Aperture F11
Shutter 1/120 - 1/100
or
Aperture F16
Shutter 1/60

Thank you all, I will try with above settings on the weekend...

Quote from: 'trout' pid='55948' dateline='1406800703'A bit dark and the details are hard to see But what a lovely coin.
Has to be MS65 at least.
I am by no means an expert but increase the lighting and the ISO and I think you will get a better image I think.

Its a MS65RD.

I thought the photos were bit dark... but I will have another try this weekend...
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Post by: trout on July 31, 2014, 08:44:53 PM
QuoteI thought the photos were bit dark... but I will have another try this weekend...
A MS65RD coin would damn near blow your eyes out in the sunshine :yahoo:
Get your lighting right and you should see the full lustre and the "Cartwheel effect" in the image :ok:
Do you have an OTT light?
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Post by: ausproofs on July 31, 2014, 09:37:05 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='55952' dateline='1406805293'
QuoteI thought the photos were bit dark... but I will have another try this weekend...
A MS65RD coin would damn near blow your eyes out in the sunshine :yahoo:
Get your lighting right and you should see the full lustre and the "Cartwheel effect" in the image :ok:
Do you have an OTT light?

What is an OTT light mate? Sorry ... no idea
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Post by: trout on July 31, 2014, 09:43:01 PM
QuoteWhat is an OTT light mate? Sorry ... no idea
An OTTLight is a brand name (google it)
It is Sunshine in a lamp, bloody awesome :good:
I only recently discovered these thanks in NO small part to our good members on this site, The light produced by these is pretty much the same as sunlight :ok:
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Post by: ausproofs on July 31, 2014, 10:16:16 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='55957' dateline='1406808781'
QuoteWhat is an OTT light mate? Sorry ... no idea
An OTTLight is a brand name (google it)
It is Sunshine in a lamp, bloody awesome :good:
I only recently discovered these thanks in NO small part to our good members on this site, The light produced by these is pretty much the same as sunlight :ok:

Oh okay, on to it now. Thank you...
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Post by: trout on July 31, 2014, 10:21:03 PM
QuoteOh okay, on to it now. Thank you...
My images improved by at least 20% just by using this type of light , Imagine if these were used with a DSLR camera.
I am SSSOOOO looking into that avenue :angel:
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Post by: ausproofs on July 31, 2014, 10:28:03 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='55959' dateline='1406811063'
QuoteOh okay, on to it now. Thank you...
My images improved by at least 20% just by using this type of light , Imagine if these were used with a DSLR camera.
I am SSSOOOO looking into that avenue :angel:

I am using a DSLR with a macro lens..... now i need a OTT :yahoo:
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Post by: trout on July 31, 2014, 10:34:28 PM
I recon by the end of the year we will be a pretty skilled bunch of coin photographers on this site with all the help and assistance given Freely by those members here that KNOW their stuff :yahoo::dance2: :good:
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Post by: ausproofs on July 31, 2014, 10:36:04 PM
Thats how world become a better place !  Cheers Guys !
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Post by: trout on August 04, 2014, 03:20:42 PM
The Tamron lens has arrived::yahoo:
My first two images with it.
By Crikey this lens can pick the detail on a coin out :ok:

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/tamron1.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/tamron.jpg)
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Post by: Robster on August 04, 2014, 04:39:53 PM
Great start, the journey begins.!! :wavemulticolor:
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Post by: trout on August 04, 2014, 05:06:48 PM
Silver Proof Shots.
Notice the 2 "Milk Spots" over the II after Elizabeth :dash1:

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/tamron3.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/tamron2.jpg)
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Post by: Australian coin on August 04, 2014, 05:24:37 PM
ooo shiny
nice pic
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Post by: serial on August 04, 2014, 08:21:29 PM
Are they in capsules?
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Post by: trout on August 04, 2014, 08:29:46 PM
Quote from: 'serial' pid='56162' dateline='1407149489'Are they in capsules?

NO
I split the capsule and rested the coin in it for the shot.
This is directly out of a set.
Those Milk spots will drop this at least 1 grade :cray:
NO wonder it is so bloody hard to get a 70 grade :dash1:
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Post by: Unicorn on August 04, 2014, 08:38:55 PM
Great pics Trout!
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Post by: interest on August 04, 2014, 11:23:08 PM
great shots!!
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Post by: serial on August 04, 2014, 11:26:25 PM
Great pics mate. You got me so jealous!
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Post by: trout on August 12, 2014, 11:02:05 AM
What am I doing wrong here?
This is SOOOO frustrating :dash1:


This is the image from my point and shoot camera.
The colour is good here
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/1970_1d.jpg)

This is the image from my DSLR camera.
There is NO colour here.
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/1970_1d1.jpg)
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Post by: Australian coin on August 12, 2014, 11:08:54 AM
background and what setting the camera is on makes a difference, the second one is focusing on the background

darker backgrounds absorb light while light ones reflect it (depending on how much light you are using make a difference too with reflection on a surface)
2nd thing is textured backgrounds can make a camera focus on that, I was using felt to absorb reflection but the new camera want to zoom in on that instead of the coin :p
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Post by: trout on August 12, 2014, 11:24:25 AM
OK mucked about with the manual setting on the white balance and focussed manually.
The trouble I am having is what I see on the rear lcd screen is NOT what the image will look like.

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/1970_1d4.jpg)
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Post by: Australian coin on August 12, 2014, 11:36:29 AM
haha I have the same too, don't rely on the screen no matter what camera, all I can be sure of if the screen is blurry then the picture is too.
you just have to play around and see what works for you.
I really like the zoom or macro setting, that captures the detail for small things, but when I want to do larger stuff I have found that the auto detect is doing pretty good.
my camera also has scene select for brighter colours, haha it under scene - cuisine - for still life photography, vividly reproduces colours of fruit, vegetables, flowers etc.

your doing great, your coin is in focus and the colour is showing up nicely

might want to have a play with a black background if you can, cos dude that blue is out there ;)
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Post by: serial on August 12, 2014, 01:29:20 PM
the blue looks good :P
keep the pics coming
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Post by: trout on September 21, 2014, 08:22:16 AM
Here are a few random shots of different metals.

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/27_ms62b.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/1932_1_12_anna2.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/1972_5c1.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/2011_20c_sp1.jpg)
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Post by: Australian coin on September 21, 2014, 10:55:55 AM
nice :)
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Post by: serial on September 21, 2014, 11:10:48 AM
that 20c looks real good! is it in a capsule or slab?
and the 1/12 is great to!
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Post by: ausjack on September 21, 2014, 11:57:07 AM
love the DC mate :ok:
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Post by: trout on September 21, 2014, 01:15:01 PM
Quote from: 'serial' pid='59729' dateline='1411263648'that 20c looks real good! is it in a capsule or slab?
and the 1/12 is great to!

The 20c is a silver proof RAW
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Post by: serial on September 21, 2014, 01:26:03 PM
it explains how you are getting the DC look captured so well with no noise. you best pic yet I think
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Post by: trout on September 21, 2014, 01:28:13 PM
Quote from: 'serial' pid='59747' dateline='1411271763'it explains how you are getting the DC look captured so well with no noise. you best pic yet I think

I always try to be very quiet when I take an image :laugh2:

A few random 1964m penny's from a roll

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/4a.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/4~2.jpg)

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/3a.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/3~2.jpg)

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/2a.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/2~3.jpg)

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/1~2.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/1a.jpg)
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Post by: oh my florin on September 21, 2014, 02:43:02 PM
Nice photos I must say. Is it the Nikon D3200? or something to that effect? and also which lens is it?
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Post by: robbiegal on September 21, 2014, 02:45:15 PM
pennies look fantastic
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Post by: trout on September 21, 2014, 02:49:19 PM
Quote from: 'oh my florin' pid='59757' dateline='1411276382'Nice photos I must say. Is it the Nikon D3200? or something to that effect? and also which lens is it?

It's a Tamron lens , the one Markn advised me to get :good:

Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='59758' dateline='1411276515'pennies look fantastic

I think the "woodgrain" one is the most photogenic :)
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Post by: robbiegal on September 21, 2014, 02:57:14 PM
yes, those carbon rich planchets can be quite stunning (before the carbon starts to explode!!)
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Post by: trout on September 21, 2014, 02:59:55 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='59765' dateline='1411277234'yes, those carbon rich planchets can be quite stunning (before the carbon starts to explode!!)

All is good RG, I put all the coins from the roll in saflips and heat sealed the little puppies :dance2:
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Post by: oh my florin on September 21, 2014, 03:01:42 PM
Thanks for the clarification on the lens if you have a link to one for sale. I'd like to check the specs on it. Never mind I looked over the original post on it.
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Post by: Australian coin on September 21, 2014, 03:55:28 PM
wow nice pics, yes that "woodgrain" one is eye-catching
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Post by: Unicorn on September 21, 2014, 03:58:08 PM
Great pics Trout!

You sure have the hang of it now!!!
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Post by: trout on September 21, 2014, 04:00:50 PM
Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='59791' dateline='1411280888'Great pics Trout!

You sure have the hang of it now!!!


Thanks Mate.
I pretty much have a Porsche that I drive like a Volkswagen at the moment But eventually I will master the beast :)
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Post by: robbiegal on September 21, 2014, 07:21:58 PM
I can send you .... oh a few hundred 1964 pennies to photograph .. just book in for your long service leave first!!
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Post by: trout on September 21, 2014, 07:31:56 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='59806' dateline='1411293118'I can send you .... oh a few hundred 1964 pennies to photograph .. just book in for your long service leave first!!

I thought that you might like the 64 pic's :):angel:
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Post by: robbiegal on September 21, 2014, 07:42:18 PM
I (foolishly) bought a big lot of '64 halfpennies a few week-ends ago
and after taking about 310 photographs

i'm over them!!
it was driving me nuts trying to make water spots look less spotty and gloss look more glossy and colour more colourful
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Post by: trout on September 21, 2014, 07:50:23 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='59809' dateline='1411294338'I (foolishly) bought a big lot of '64 halfpennies a few week-ends ago
and after photographing about 310 photographs

i'm over them!!
it was driving me nuts trying to make water spots look less spotty and gloss look more glossy and colour more colourful

No point in trying to make an imperfect coin look perfect via Photoshop.
A coin is what it is and the best you can do is to take an image that looks like the coin "In hand"
The intention of taking an image of a coin is to represent it for what it is "Warts and All" I can't see the point of Fluffing and buffing a coin  pic quite honestly.
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Post by: robbiegal on September 21, 2014, 07:56:27 PM
oh no, I have never use photoshop edits  
the only edits I use are to crop and for this forum I 'edit' the photo to a third of the mps that it will be on my computer, so they tend to look a little fuzzy when posted here
sometimes I might use the auto adjust in the program but that just fiddles with the picture colours/contrast
I usually hold the coin in my hand and try to make sure that it matches with the photo on the screen
a lot of these new coins have blazing colours but they have the usual perth 'water stains etc'
this coin looks pretty well exactly the same in the hand but the water spots definitely appear darker in photos
but you only have to tilt the camera a bit and the colours that it pics up can be lighter or almost not at all
I took these photos with my Olympus, I have started to practice using the son's Nikon - it seems to take photos very true to what my eye sees
(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/P8250328_zpsc6ea1862.jpg)(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/P8250330_zps219cd178.jpg)

then I took these photos with the Nikon - true colour shows immediately, it is really nice to use and I hope to get better at it
this coin is still in the holder but pretty well looks exact - maybe  little 'brighter' in the hand  (//%5Bimg%5Dhttp://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/DSC_08732-Copy_zps278ba123.jpg)[/img](http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/DSC_08742-Copy_zps027aba40.jpg)
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Post by: trout on September 21, 2014, 08:16:15 PM
The pic's from the Nikon are a far better image :good:
Very Nice :good:
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Post by: robbiegal on September 21, 2014, 08:56:56 PM
ta we are all getting pretty good with the pics on this forum thanks to the great advice that we get from the old hands!
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Post by: trout on September 23, 2014, 02:09:07 PM
Another couple of nice results, Both coins graded PR69DC :good:
I love taking images of these types of coins, they are so photogenic 

50c
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/1979_50c_pr69a.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/1979_50c_pr69.jpg)

20c
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/1979_20c_pr69a.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/1979_20c_pr69.jpg)
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Post by: oh my florin on October 01, 2014, 03:06:41 PM
Just bought my first camera set up over today and yesterday. I can't wait to start snapping some coins.
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Post by: trout on October 01, 2014, 03:26:56 PM
Quote from: 'oh my florin' pid='60261' dateline='1412141801'Just bought my first camera set up over today and yesterday. I can't wait to start snapping some coins.

Looking forward to your images Mate :good:
What did you end up getting camera and lens wise?
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Post by: oh my florin on October 01, 2014, 03:41:34 PM
I ended up getting the Nikon D3200 and the Tamron 90mm Macro lens. I also picked up 2 of those OTT lights that you speak so highly of and an Inca RS-CS920 copystand so all the images will be as steady as possible and the zoom perfect.
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Post by: trout on October 01, 2014, 03:46:13 PM
Quote from: 'oh my florin' pid='60264' dateline='1412143894'I ended up getting the Nikon D3200 and the Tamron 90mm Macro lens. I also picked up 2 of those OTT lights that you speak so highly of and an Inca RS-CS920 copystand so all the images will be as steady as possible and the zoom perfect.

Nicely done Mate, Now I had better go check and see if my setup is still there :laugh2: :angel:
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Post by: oh my florin on October 01, 2014, 03:47:09 PM
Haha about that trout :P
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Post by: serial on October 01, 2014, 04:37:08 PM
Nice buy omf! Can't wait to see results
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Post by: robbiegal on October 01, 2014, 06:22:10 PM
did you go to a camera shop for the set-up  OMF?
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Post by: oh my florin on October 01, 2014, 10:44:18 PM
I did have a look around some shops dick smith, office works and a number of specialist photography shops but ended up buying the camera and lens from a distributer called Digital World International and got the camera around $200 cheaper than the other places and the lens around $100 cheaper. The stand I purchased for $184.53 from a local distributer with free postage (they are really bulky so postage costs are quite expensive which was $110 cheaper than the other distributor of them. The Ott lights I picked up new of ebay for $59 a pop with free shipping. Retail on these are around $120. Lesson I learnt is if you look really hard you can save an absolute ton of money.
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Post by: robbiegal on October 01, 2014, 10:55:37 PM
cheers - appreciated
my son has embraced photography while he is doing his journalism course and he mentions Digital World a lot  

I have stared using his Nikon V1 - it is entry level but I am having loads of fun learning to use it (he was really lucky and got it as a run sale from Dick Smith for $250 earlier this year). He has recommended a $500 lens for macro shots though!

i'd like to try one of those camera stands, I think it would improve my photos as well

I look forward to seeing your photos!!
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Post by: oh my florin on October 01, 2014, 11:00:45 PM
Thanks I can't wait to test out the set up by the way would you like me to PM you the supplier of the copy stand?
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Post by: trout on October 02, 2014, 07:09:02 AM
This is my current set up 

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/shoot2.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/shoot.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/shoot1.jpg)
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Post by: oh my florin on October 02, 2014, 08:50:18 AM
I looks great trout and the pictures you get from it are awesome. That's why I got one similar.
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Post by: robbiegal on October 02, 2014, 08:53:58 AM
hey Trout
do you reckon that tripod is good for holding the camera ?
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Post by: trout on October 02, 2014, 09:01:11 AM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='60323' dateline='1412205838'hey Trout
do you reckon that tripod is good for holding the camera ?

I recon that tripod is robust enough to mount an M60 on :diablo::good:

I can take 20 images of slabbed similar coins without having to even check the focus , nothing moves with this puppy :)
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Post by: robbiegal on October 02, 2014, 10:15:47 AM
cool
I think that my son got one recently I might ask sweetly for a loan ....
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Post by: Goldseeker on October 02, 2014, 11:11:59 PM
Nice setup if I could afford a similar one.
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Post by: robbiegal on October 03, 2014, 08:25:27 AM
Hi Trout & fellow photographers!!

I have a tripod that I've had for years to look at the stars at night
So we took the legs right down to the shortest length they go (apx 58 cms with camera attached) & set up the camera with 2 otte lights. My tripod has 4 legs including the centre support leg thingss
I will get better plus the son is recommending a Nikon macro lens apx $500 , so we will look out for a second hand one.

Bit tricky as I am so used to holding the camera for my photos
but took quite a few fairly good shots. I did like getting straight over the coin AND without having to stop breathing when I take the photo!!  

as attached
(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/DSC_1167_zps00a70e35.jpg)(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/DSC_1168_zps24a1124c.jpg)
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Post by: trout on October 03, 2014, 08:33:15 AM
Nice sharp images RG and the colour looks great :yahoo:
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Post by: robbiegal on October 03, 2014, 09:04:10 AM
ta

it is a gorgus coin that was said to have been taken from a mint roll years ago
it has a few sisters in my album as well but the guy who i bought them off on ebay had STAPLES in the page that he stapled when he posted, some coins came loose = some very ruined unc coins

I never have a staples anywhere near a coin now, even in my packaging when I sell something
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Post by: oh my florin on October 03, 2014, 10:07:37 AM
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='60361' dateline='1412257319'Nice setup if I could afford a similar one.
Don't worry mate I got it over the line as I will be using it for a little venture of mine because I couldn't justify it for just my coins, Now just have to explain to my parents how much I spent on the set up :P Don't know how that is going to go :angel:
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Post by: oh my florin on October 05, 2014, 10:23:46 AM
The OTT lights arrived Friday and just got around to setting them up now. I must say first impressions of it are good but lets see how it goes under the camera.
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Post by: oh my florin on October 09, 2014, 07:24:15 PM
Just got the camera today and managed to take some photos. Here is what I managed to get so far. (the picture was taken freehand)

Sorry guys and gals give me a little. It doesn't want to upload my photo. Found the issue the original photo was 4.2mb so a tad over the 200kb limit. It has been scaled down a lot to fit in this post.

Click on the photo and you will get a much bigger and better photo

[attachment=2964]
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Post by: robbiegal on October 09, 2014, 07:31:30 PM
piccie is missing in action possum
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Post by: trout on October 09, 2014, 07:34:25 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='60714' dateline='1412845290'piccie is missing in action possum

Ya gotta take the lens cover off Mate :laugh2: :)
Just funning Mate, You have to resize the images .
I normally make them 600 x 600 pixels :ok:
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Post by: oh my florin on October 09, 2014, 07:44:11 PM
Haha what is this lens you speak of? :P jokes

Resized the photo to 875x 875 pixels

Frankly I am very happy with my first off shot
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Post by: trout on October 09, 2014, 07:50:07 PM
Nicely done Mate :good:
Try using the gallery on this site and then use the link to put the pic on your post.
That way you get full sized images instead of thumbnails :)
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Post by: Goldseeker on October 09, 2014, 07:52:06 PM
At least it is a start OMF.
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Post by: Unicorn on October 09, 2014, 07:53:28 PM
Who is this Frank Lee you speak of?  Be he a member?  A brother of Bing or Shirl perhaps? (Jokes x worse^10).

Good pic OMF for your first go with a new machine.
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: trout on October 09, 2014, 07:59:18 PM
For a "Freehand" shot it is a bloody good effort Mate, no way in the world can I hold a camera steady enough for that :good:
Did you  use the auto focus or did you focus manually with the Tamron lens for that shot ?
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: robbiegal on October 09, 2014, 08:49:16 PM
great start OMF
it is a head spin to get the hang of a new camera and the associated bizzo that goes with it
 I load mine up to photobucket and copy the link and paste it here, have never used the galley here
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: trout on October 09, 2014, 08:57:48 PM
Quotehave never used the galley here
It is AWSOME Robbie give it a whorl  :good:
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: oh my florin on October 09, 2014, 09:04:44 PM
Thanks everyone and trout I manually focused it and did all the settings manually. It is really hard to hold a camera steady, manually focus it and take a photo at the same time by the way. I managed to find an old tripod we had and I will give some photos a shot tomorrow with it.
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: trout on October 09, 2014, 09:30:21 PM
Quote from: 'oh my florin' pid='60726' dateline='1412850884'Thanks everyone and trout I manually focused it and did all the settings manually. It is really hard to hold a camera steady, manually focus it and take a photo at the same time by the way. I managed to find an old tripod we had and I will give some photos a shot tomorrow with it.

Keep on Trukkin Mate, Where there is a will there is a way.
It is nice to have some decent equipment and it is FUN learning how to use all the new settings and stuff.
I'm still trying to get the best out of my gear, a bit like "Pantine" It wont happen overnight but it WILL happen :)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: robbiegal on October 09, 2014, 09:38:48 PM
I have taken my coin photos for the last decade without a tripod OMF

just keep your arms really still as you hold the camera - and stop breathing when you are about to take the photo
works for me

I only starting trying out the tripod last week and it's damn hard to get that system of taking photos working as well


ps
when you press the shutter half way down the camera will auto focus and correct any dodgy focus


set it on electronic shutter speed ( I have a Nikon as well - just a lesser version I think)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: oh my florin on October 09, 2014, 10:01:36 PM
Yeah I think the best way would be to put a timer on the camera while using it with a tripod.
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: trout on October 09, 2014, 10:06:29 PM
Quote from: 'oh my florin' pid='60733' dateline='1412854296'Yeah I think the best way would be to put a timer on the camera while using it with a tripod.

I don't think you will have any dramas when finally you get your copy stand :)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: oh my florin on October 09, 2014, 10:33:36 PM
Thanks and hopefully the pictures only get better from here :)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: oh my florin on October 10, 2014, 10:37:57 AM
Here are a few that I have taken today (this will be updated over the day)

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11028/quaterdollarfinaltest_opt.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11028/1centfinaltest2.png)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11028/1centfinaltest3.png)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11028/dimefinaltest1.png)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11028/quarterfinaltest2.png)
The last one is the same quarter just different lighting.
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Fordprefect on October 10, 2014, 12:44:36 PM
That's a good start OMF :read:

The white balance in your camera is out by miles.

Do a Manual White Balance Setup using the
light setup you intend to use for your images.
A plain white sheet of A4 copy paper as reference.

If in doubt, shock horror, read your user manual.

The White Balance Must be correct before
you can go forward and the Auto and various in camera
presets don't usually work too well with coins.
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: oh my florin on October 10, 2014, 07:50:06 PM
Thanks fordie I will mess around a bit more with the white balance. On the presets I have customised the settings including aperture, shutter speed, quality settings etc.
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Fr45h3R on October 11, 2014, 08:43:27 AM
If you shoot in RAW, one of the good things is, is that you can change the white balance using software.
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: robbiegal on October 11, 2014, 09:05:00 AM
oh so that it the secret
all of you guys are taking your photos in the RAW
no wonder the coin photos always look so hot
ha ha

ps I think that the RAW pics can't up load to photobucket
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: JeffH on October 11, 2014, 09:14:54 AM
When you have a RAW picture cropped, sized, whatever to what you want then you can save it as a  jpeg/jpg/png/gif file which will considerably reduce the file size. I usually use jpg and select "High quality/Low compression" save option in my picture software. The more compression, the more fine detail may be degraded in the end result.

Quotetaking your photos in the RAW
Beware of mirror like coins -your picture might show unwanted artifacts! :laughingneqw::laughingneqw:
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: robbiegal on October 11, 2014, 09:18:10 AM
ha ha
i'll make sure to take a closer look in future!!
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: oh my florin on October 11, 2014, 03:53:16 PM
I shoot with Jpeg (fine) but I will try out the RAW one? Also can't seem to get white balance right. I tried the paper trick but the camera didn't want any of it and to set it manually means you get a million possible outcomes :P
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: keldaw on October 11, 2014, 07:25:49 PM
I tried the white paper too , best I could get was grey .  ,, kel ,,
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: oh my florin on October 11, 2014, 08:08:55 PM
Fordie could you tell me which photos look like the white balance is out. The first Lincoln cent looks very sharp and attractive the other photos however I can understand in terms of the white balance.
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Fordprefect on October 11, 2014, 09:19:40 PM
The Quarters and Dimes are all out of wack,
which also means the Cent's are too,
but in isolation very hard to pick.
The Blue that is apparent on the silvers,
would intensify the red in the cents.

The importance of correct white balance in camera
is not just the elimination of an unwanted colour cast.
Get the white balance wrong in camera and every
other colour captured will also be wrong and post processing
won't fix the original error.

As for using "Raw Format" Don't until you get the basics.

White Balance (For each Lighting Set-Up)
Then, All equally important :-
Camera Parallel and 90d to coin
Light Position
Aperture Setting
Focus
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: oh my florin on October 11, 2014, 09:39:33 PM
Okay thanks fordprefect. Limits the options somewhat in terms of the palet choices however need to figure out which white balance option to use.
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: robbiegal on October 11, 2014, 10:36:33 PM
just play around with the camera
I have always found that when the white balance has the white paper appearing  white, then my coin is way way over exposed so that advice has never worked for me

just play around with the auto settings until you get more comfortable with the device
that is what I am doing with the son's camera & I am getting some great photos

this coin is on white paper but if the paper showed up as white then my coin would be really over exposed, so I settle for the grey looking tone to capture colours etc
(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/DSC_1947-tile_zps98c3c031.jpg)

ps here are two pictures
the first has the white balance correct and the second has the darker background - this is what the guys are talking about
(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/DSC_0809-tile_zps68de4c18.jpg)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Triggersmob on October 11, 2014, 10:57:55 PM
I seem to remember other people talking about using an 18% grey card instead of white, for setting the white balance. Anyone know more about this?
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: oh my florin on October 14, 2014, 11:07:04 AM
Just picked up my copystand yesterday it is absolutely massive. Seriously it is a bit taller than half a person and made of steel. Anyway it comes with a grey baseboard so white balance shouldn't be an issue anymore. Going to take some photos tonight and can't wait :D
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: markn on October 14, 2014, 02:05:40 PM
Quote from: 'Triggersmob' pid='60829' dateline='1413030475'I seem to remember other people talking about using an 18% grey card instead of white, for setting the white balance. Anyone know more about this?

You can do that.  Or use a white page that has black printing on it.  Both seem to work fairly well.
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: oh my florin on October 14, 2014, 09:05:56 PM
Gave it a go with the white balance adjustments and the copystand. Here is the best one I managed out of the set pretty happy with it to be honest.
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11028/1pro_opt.jpg)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: kchan1111 on October 22, 2014, 11:37:58 AM
Just came across this article on PCGS

Glamor shots for your pcgs slabs (http://www.pcgs.com/news/glamor-shots-for-your-pcgs-slabs)

Gradient shading background is sexy.
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: serial on October 27, 2014, 04:39:59 PM
I got these and thought I would show them. tried to get the colours but it is hard
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/PA270278.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/PA270277.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/PA270276.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/PA270275.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/PA270274.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/PA270273.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/PA270272.JPG)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11197/PA270270.JPG)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Fr45h3R on November 13, 2014, 11:20:55 AM
After months of putting it off, I finally bought a macro lens. The challenge is getting the camera square as the camera / lens weigh a bit and the copystand probably wasn't built for full size D-slrs

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y484/Fr45h3R/DSC_00014_zps363039d6.jpg) (http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/Fr45h3R/media/DSC_00014_zps363039d6.jpg.html)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Unicorn on November 13, 2014, 11:41:59 AM
One of the best pictures I've seen of a staple!

Nah, seriously, looking good!
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Fordprefect on November 13, 2014, 12:57:11 PM
Rob,
Use a spirit level, east west and north south,
on the back of camera.
Then lock the camera up tight.

Dosn't hurt to check it periodicaly also.

(http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/ford_prefect/Australian%20Coin%20Forum/Canon%2040D%20Camera/IMG_3015_1200_zps90b24308.jpg)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: serial on November 13, 2014, 01:18:10 PM
love the double adaptor on the power board :)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Fordprefect on November 13, 2014, 04:02:17 PM
Quote from: 'serial' pid='62282' dateline='1415846890'love the double adaptor on the power board :)
Safe as houses, the plug in's for the LED's only draw 400mA ea. :cool:
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: trout on November 13, 2014, 10:31:55 PM
I LOVE your desk Fordie :yahoo:
It looks a lot like mine.
A tidy workshop = nothing much happening :)
Title: RE: random pics to practise feed back encouraged
Post by: Goldseeker on November 14, 2014, 05:30:10 PM
Double adapters in power boards is a no no in my house.   FULL STOP.  Too darn dangerous any time.