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World Coins, Banknotes and Exonumia => World Coins => Topic started by: Triggersmob on May 28, 2014, 08:19:30 PM

Title: Latest Additions
Post by: Triggersmob on May 28, 2014, 08:19:30 PM
I recently bought a bulk load of world coins from Serial. Managed to pull quite a few coins out that I needed. Filled lots of holes, added some new types and even found a low mintage 1998 50 Rupiah from Indonesia.

Here's some pics of just a few of them...

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10113/2005_Kenya_One_Shilling.JPG)

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10113/1989_Isle_of_Man_2_Pence.JPG)

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10113/1998_Indonesia_50_Rupiah.JPG)

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10113/2004_Iceland_10_Kronur.JPG)

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10113/1989_Hungary_2_Forint.JPG)

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10113/2003_East_Timor_10_Centavos.JPG)

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10113/1981_East_Caribbean_States_One_Dollar.JPG)

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10113/2000_Canada_25_Cents_-_Health.JPG)

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10113/1969_Belgium_10_Francs.JPG)

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10113/2010_Bahrain_100_Fils.JPG)

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10113/1990_Austria_10_Schilling.JPG)
Title: RE: Latest Additions
Post by: robbiegal on May 28, 2014, 08:34:58 PM
I like the chook
(hope it's not a fighting chook)
Title: RE: Latest Additions
Post by: ausjack on May 28, 2014, 08:43:12 PM
yeah and I know two others members that love their bird coins :)
Title: RE: Latest Additions
Post by: serial on May 28, 2014, 09:29:43 PM
Great pics! I am glad your happy and I hope  you enjoy going through your latest load
Title: RE: Latest Additions
Post by: purplepennyhunter on May 28, 2014, 10:19:18 PM
The chook leapt out at me too as i scrolled through!! Nice.
Title: RE: Latest Additions
Post by: ausjack on May 29, 2014, 12:17:30 AM
Now I've just about had enough and especially from to farm girls..IT'S A BLOODY ROOSTER and you's should know that as it has all the marking and such a cool design it even has his spurs on his legs so he's definitely a cock bird :laugh2: I wanna be good :angel:
Title: RE: Latest Additions
Post by: Nevol on May 29, 2014, 09:56:36 AM
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='50480' dateline='1401275592'yeah and I know two others members that love their bird coins :)
Hmmm....wonder who that might be.....:angel: I kinda know one of them, but not a 2nd????:scratch_one-s_head:
Title: RE: Latest Additions
Post by: ausjack on May 29, 2014, 10:24:29 AM
:laugh2: I was only telling Kim last night that when I see different things I instantly think of certain member, eg Birds, AC and Nevol, see a 3d think of AC, see a 64 penny can we guess who, that's right RG and well how many times do I think of trout when you think every bloody dealer has a Canberra florin and he's just the first person to come to mind when I see them and same as ancients I think of sap. Mark, PP and Nevol for errors and others for slabs and yeah I just link, well my stupid brain links things together like that, just find it funny and pretty cool at the same time :)
Title: RE: Latest Additions
Post by: Nevol on May 29, 2014, 11:08:13 AM
Ah So! The penny drops. :biggrin:
Title: RE: Latest Additions
Post by: ausjack on May 29, 2014, 02:05:27 PM
yeah my brain does it's own funny things now but it's ok..and yes when the penny drops as well :winkextra:
Title: RE: Latest Additions
Post by: robbiegal on May 29, 2014, 05:35:05 PM
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='50509' dateline='1401288450'Now I've just about had enough and especially from to farm girls..IT'S A BLOODY ROOSTER and you's should know that as it has all the marking and such a cool design it even has his spurs on his legs so he's definitely a cock bird :laugh2: I wanna be good :angel:

yeah AJ
I googled that and figured it was one of those but I didn't post it being such a shy retiring lady that I am
I did notice the spurs too

and I reckon you blokes would have had a field day with it!!
Title: RE: Latest Additions
Post by: ausjack on May 29, 2014, 07:24:24 PM
:blush2: come on RG not me mate, and I wouldn't dare say anything about being a clucky old hen :angel:

:scratch_one-s_head: shy retiring lady, I really can't picture you like that RG, I think your bit more of a trickster than you'd like to make out or admit :winkextra:
Title: RE: Latest Additions
Post by: robbiegal on May 29, 2014, 07:28:57 PM
I wanna retire and become a clucky old hen!!

bad day at the office - so to speak and yep
i'd love to retire and cluck away over the little granddaughter

ho hum
mortgage belt beckons me each day ....

but all in all, it is not as tough as being one of those fighting cocks

gee, around the world, there are heaps of cultures who have them
and some are downright malicious - they tie blades on the rooster's legs
that is what I like about world coins - you learn about other cultures/societies & the history at the time when the coin was designed or produced,  as well
Title: RE: Latest Additions
Post by: purplepennyhunter on June 16, 2014, 08:40:17 PM
This one arrived today and it's super-lustrous. I'm very happy it's a new addition to the non-specific Kath and Mark hoard (Mark just named it that).

Ex King's Norton Mint Collection PCGS SP66
(http://www.mycoinalog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/bwa-1947kn-half-penny-pcgs-sp66.jpg)
Title: RE: Latest Additions
Post by: serial on June 16, 2014, 09:06:08 PM
I can't find it on your website how much is it selling for?
Title: RE: Latest Additions
Post by: markn on June 16, 2014, 09:08:43 PM
Quote from: 'serial' pid='52682' dateline='1402918568'I can't find it on your website how much is it selling for?

It's living in our collection. Not for sale.
Title: RE: Latest Additions
Post by: serial on June 16, 2014, 09:12:13 PM
Aaaaaaahhhhh can I ask its value?

Wait just found it wow pricey but rare!
Title: RE: Latest Additions
Post by: trout on June 16, 2014, 09:49:44 PM
QuoteIt's living in our collection. Not for sale.
"Perfect" Love your collection as far as I have seen it you Blokes and more than mildly jealous  :yahoo:
Title: RE: Latest Additions
Post by: robbiegal on June 16, 2014, 10:06:08 PM
beautiful

specimen?
Title: RE: Latest Additions
Post by: purplepennyhunter on June 17, 2014, 08:49:24 AM
Yeah it's a specimen in 66. A lot have been graded SP64 and SP65 but a 6 is rare. They didn't take good care of their own collection well but this one just leaps out of the slab at you.
Title: RE: Latest Additions
Post by: Triggersmob on June 17, 2014, 07:53:36 PM
That sure is a pretty coin PPH. A lot nicer than the 1949 I just added to my collection. :)
Title: RE: Latest Additions
Post by: proof27 on June 17, 2014, 08:19:40 PM
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Sorry trigger, wasn't meant to put it in your thread.
Title: RE: Latest Additions
Post by: Triggersmob on June 18, 2014, 06:23:36 PM
Quote from: 'proof27' pid='52780' dateline='1403002180'

Sorry trigger, wasn't meant to put it in your thread.

Not a problem at all, this thread is for everyone.
Nice coin BTW.
Title: RE: Latest Additions
Post by: markn on June 18, 2014, 06:24:36 PM
Quote from: 'proof27' pid='52780' dateline='1403002180'Sorry trigger, wasn't meant to put it in your thread.

That's nice.  Dare I ask, is it real?  The surfaces look a bit granular.
Title: RE: Latest Additions
Post by: proof27 on June 18, 2014, 08:14:48 PM
Quote from: 'markn' pid='52872' dateline='1403081676'
Quote from: 'proof27' pid='52780' dateline='1403002180'Sorry trigger, wasn't meant to put it in your thread.

That's nice.  Dare I ask, is it real?  The surfaces look a bit granular.

I was hoping someone with your skills could tell me.
Title: RE: Latest Additions
Post by: trout on June 18, 2014, 08:21:18 PM
My entire collection of ancient's consist of just 2 coins given to me by Sel a couple of years back so I have NO idea whatsoever as to wither this coin is genuine or not .
I am pretty certain that Sap would have a pretty good idea tho :ok:
Title: RE: Latest Additions
Post by: markn on June 18, 2014, 08:28:37 PM
Quote from: 'proof27' pid='52894' dateline='1403088288'
Quote from: 'markn' pid='52872' dateline='1403081676'
Quote from: 'proof27' pid='52780' dateline='1403002180'Sorry trigger, wasn't meant to put it in your thread.

That's nice.  Dare I ask, is it real?  The surfaces look a bit granular.

I was hoping someone with your skills could tell me.

I am no expert on Greek coins but I have to say the reverse is a dead giveaway that it's cast.  Where did you get it?  How much did you pay?
Title: RE: Latest Additions
Post by: proof27 on June 18, 2014, 08:35:20 PM
Quote from: 'markn' pid='52901' dateline='1403089117'
Quote from: 'proof27' pid='52894' dateline='1403088288'
Quote from: 'markn' pid='52872' dateline='1403081676'
Quote from: 'proof27' pid='52780' dateline='1403002180'Sorry trigger, wasn't meant to put it in your thread.

That's nice.  Dare I ask, is it real?  The surfaces look a bit granular.

I was hoping someone with your skills could tell me.

I am no expert on Greek coins but I have to say the reverse is a dead giveaway that it's cast.  Where did you get it?  How much did you pay?

Paid $60, ebay, thought it was good looking coin, I have so much to learn.
Title: RE: Latest Additions
Post by: robbiegal on June 18, 2014, 08:44:24 PM
they are appealing coins
this is one that one day I will get myself

CIVIC COINAGE 'CLASSIC OWL'
ANCIENT GREEK SILVER TETRADRACHM COIN
Silver, 17.15 grams, 24.94 mm. Athens, Attica. After 393 BC. Obverse: no legend, large head of Athena right, in crested Attic helmet, with frontal eye and wavy hair above forehead, ornamented with three olive leaves above visor and spiral palmette on bowl, wearing round earring. Reverse: AQE, larg owl standing right, head facing; olive-sprig and crescent above. Sear 2526-2528; SNG Copenhagen 63. Extremely fine, with a single banker's test nick to diadem.
(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/T2eC16dHJHoFGkvszUkVBRrZcprgw60_12_zps114b842a.jpg)
Title: RE: Latest Additions
Post by: markn on June 18, 2014, 08:51:38 PM
Quote from: 'proof27' pid='52906' dateline='1403089520'Paid $60, ebay, thought it was good looking coin, I have so much to learn.

As I said I am no expert.  But the very granular look to the reverse is usually an indication of a cast replica.  And a coin that is probably worth several hundred dollars selling for $60 on eBay is also usually an indicator of a fake.  If you want a definite answer I suggest you wait for SAP or head over the Forum Ancient Coins and post it up there.  They'll let you know for sure.

Don't worry I still make mistakes all the time.  A Mexican 8R arrived here today that looked alright on eBay.  Paid $60 for that too.  Pity some numpty gave a perfectly fine AU coin an quick polish to make it look better.  More the fool me.

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/mexico-1894Do-8-reales.jpg)
Title: RE: Latest Additions
Post by: proof27 on June 18, 2014, 08:53:52 PM
Quote from: 'markn' pid='52912' dateline='1403090498'
Quote from: 'proof27' pid='52906' dateline='1403089520'Paid $60, ebay, thought it was good looking coin, I have so much to learn.

As I said I am no expert.  But the very granular look to the reverse is usually an indication of a cast replica.  And a coin that is probably worth several hundred dollars selling for $60 on eBay is also usually an indicator of a fake.  If you want a definite answer I suggest you wait for SAP or head over the Forum Ancient Coins and post it up there.  They'll let you know for sure.

The pics above that RG posted, they look granular as well yes no ?
Title: RE: Latest Additions
Post by: robbiegal on June 18, 2014, 08:54:41 PM
I fogged them from ebay
coin sold for over a grand
Title: RE: Latest Additions
Post by: proof27 on June 18, 2014, 08:57:39 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='52916' dateline='1403090681'I fogged them from ebay
coin sold for over a grand

So definitely over $1000,,not $60 :-/
Title: RE: Latest Additions
Post by: robbiegal on June 18, 2014, 08:58:20 PM
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CIVIC-COINAGE-OWL-ATHENS-ATTICA-ANCIENT-GREEK-SILVER-TETRADRACHM-COIN-025719-/360561157565?pt=UK_Coins_Ancient_RL&hash=item53f31ea5bd&nma=true&si=MNPYnl5o%252FUezlNhoeoIpSfo9LCs%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557#ht_1386wt_1127
Title: RE: Latest Additions
Post by: Sapyx on June 18, 2014, 10:03:04 PM
Quote...If you want a definite answer I suggest you wait for SAP...

Sorry for not noticing this discussion in this thread, and thank you for the PM directing me here. Next time, if you want me to notice your coin quickly, post your coin in a brand new thread and put "Help with ancient coin" or something like that in the title. ;)

Now, as for this coin. The origin at once makes me skeptical - there are some genuine ancient coins to be found for sale on eBay. There are also plenty of fakes. I'd seriously recommend staying far, far away from any seller of ancients on eBay that you do not already know for certain has a spotless reputation. That being said, your first port of call should be the FORVM list of Notorious Fake Sellers (http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=18502.0). If the seller of your coin is listed there, then your coin is fake. 100% guaranteed. If the seller is not listed, then there is still hope.

Another excellent resource on the FORVM website is their large database of fakes (http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/index.php). Once again, if you find a coin in the database that looks exactly like yours (and I do mean "exactly"), then it's also a guarantee of fakeness. It got hacked a few years ago by some malicious fake-seller, so you know it's effective.

Unfortunately, doing a search over there of the fakes database for "Alexander pegasus" returns a dozen different examples of this exact same type, and one of those examples is a perfect match for your coin: it's a "Slavey copy", or perhaps (since it does look cast) a copy of a Slavey copy. Slavey was an American-based fake-master who made hand-struck coins just like the original ancient coins were hand-struck, so while the shape and centring of the coins are often unique, the dies are uniquely his own (not mechanically copied off a genuine coin) and finding a perfect match for a Slavey is very, very bad news indeed. Here's the Slavey coin (http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pos=-6742). Here's a beat-up, "circulated", cast copy of the same coin (http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pos=-7069).

There are several key diagnostic points that match, including:
- the crossbar of the letter "N" meets very low, making it look almost like a "H" or even a "W".
- the fold of drapery coming out of his lap reaches down and almost touches the base of the chair, right at the third bead.
- the odd triangular "flaw" just below Apollo's chin on the obverse rim.

In short: sorry, but this coin is 100% definitely not genuine.
Title: RE: Latest Additions
Post by: proof27 on June 19, 2014, 05:50:04 AM
Thanks sapyx
Title: RE: Latest Additions
Post by: markn on June 19, 2014, 07:53:58 AM
Quote from: 'proof27' pid='52952' dateline='1403122804'Thanks sapyx

Here's a real drachm with the same design.  Reputable seller, coin is real.

http://db.stevealbum.com/php/lot_rtl.php?site=1&lang=1&sale=281&lot=29
Title: RE: Latest Additions
Post by: proof27 on June 19, 2014, 10:18:25 AM
Big difference.