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Australian Coins, Banknotes and Exonumia => Australian Pre-Decimal Coins => Topic started by: Fr45h3R on May 27, 2014, 08:08:51 PM

Title: Don't you just hate...
Post by: Fr45h3R on May 27, 2014, 08:08:51 PM
When you see this..

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And then this :(

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Post by: robbiegal on May 27, 2014, 08:11:10 PM
yep yep
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Post by: echidna on May 27, 2014, 08:16:06 PM
You get that with high grade bronze.
If it were mine I would get it graded.
Its actually a very good coin.
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Post by: Fr45h3R on May 27, 2014, 08:19:44 PM
I'm hoping that it's possibly ink, and an acetone bath lifts it.
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Post by: bellyflorin on May 27, 2014, 08:25:50 PM
Rob who did you kill for that coin , it looks like BLOOD  hehe:police_car:
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Post by: ausjack on May 27, 2014, 08:33:52 PM
that coin look familiar Rob :mocking: but reckon it's worth a shot giving it a little dip and hope it comes off easy :good:
 
And pay no mind to you know who as he's just jealous :winkextra:
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Post by: Fr45h3R on May 27, 2014, 09:54:25 PM
Quote from: 'bellyflorin' pid='50372' dateline='1401188150'Rob who did you kill for that coin , it looks like BLOOD  hehe:police_car:

I do have a 1940 halfpenny where it is a high possibility...
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Post by: lacey on May 29, 2014, 09:16:07 PM
Nice coin Rob.  I'm jealous :-)
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Post by: humpybong on May 29, 2014, 09:24:03 PM
Hmmm I have seen that coin before as well.


I wonder if Rob purchased it from ANDA Brisbane.........
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Post by: Fr45h3R on May 29, 2014, 09:44:07 PM
Quote from: 'humpybong' pid='50611' dateline='1401364443'Hmmm I have seen that coin before as well.


I wonder if Rob purchased it from ANDA Brisbane.........

Half right. Was from Brisbane.. but I picked it up at Roxbury auction the day before. My heart skipped a beat when I first saw it.
By the way, it was great to meet you!
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Post by: ausjack on May 29, 2014, 09:54:27 PM
you might have to take me to the auction next year Rob, maaate :friends:

Oh have you hit it with the acetone yet?? I'm so keen and hope it comes off really easy for you and she'll come up mickey mouse :ok:
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Post by: Fr45h3R on May 29, 2014, 10:00:40 PM
Ordered some tonight from the chemist.
you're more than welcome to join me at auctions / viewing. Depending in the catalog ill probably be at the next roxburys too
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Post by: ausjack on May 29, 2014, 10:11:48 PM
Cool, thanks heaps mate..you know you lot are creating a monster :zomby: now can I be stopped :angel:
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Post by: Nevol on May 30, 2014, 05:50:08 AM
Quote from: 'Fr45h3R' pid='50616' dateline='1401366640'Ordered some tonight from the chemist.
You'll probably pay through the nose for it there.  Bunnings have it in 1 Litre containers for around $10-$12.
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Post by: ausjack on May 30, 2014, 06:56:17 AM
Yes hardware is normally cheaper for things like that and also try Big W because if they have it they might be cheap as well.
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Post by: robbiegal on May 30, 2014, 07:57:54 AM
Quote from: 'Fr45h3R' pid='50616' dateline='1401366640'Ordered some tonight from the chemist.
you're more than welcome to join me at auctions / viewing. Depending in the catalog ill probably be at the next roxburys too

careful with that stuff from the chemist
I have a large bottle of it
used it once ..... stinks to high heaven!!
now the bottle just sits on the shelf ... unloved!

ps I wonder if the stuff from the chemist might be stronger maybe than the bunnings stuff?
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Post by: JeffH on May 30, 2014, 08:11:10 AM
Doesn't matter where you buy it they are all the same (except chemist version may be very slightly purer).
Big W does have it as do most hardware stores.
I buy 1 litre bottle for around $10 to $12, as Nancy says. You can get 5 litre cans but a litre lasts months and months just for soaking coins. Do the soak in a sealed container to stop evaporation -acetone is very volatile. You can reuse it many times and, if it picks up some sediment just let it settle for a day and carefully pour the clean stuff off and toss the dregs.
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Post by: nealeffendi on May 30, 2014, 09:57:23 AM
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='50636' dateline='1401403270'Doesn't matter where you buy it they are all the same (except chemist version may be very slightly purer).
Big W does have it as do most hardware stores.
I buy 1 litre bottle for around $10 to $12, as Nancy says. You can get 5 litre cans but a litre lasts months and months just for soaking coins. Do the soak in a sealed container to stop evaporation -acetone is very volatile. You can reuse it many times and, if it picks up some sediment just let it settle for a day and carefully pour the clean stuff off and toss the dregs.

WARNING[/size]Be very vary of reusing acetone too much if you are removing PVC goop off coins. Acetone will remove it from one coin but it can deposit some of it on another. For all my half decent coins I only use fresh acetone to soak and I even have a second bowl of fresh acetone to dunk the coins after they come out of the soak. Once I feel the acetone is PVC contaminated I only use it for the initial soak of batches of low grades that have lots of contamination to start with.
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Post by: ausjack on May 30, 2014, 10:15:54 AM
See so many handy hints here :good: so just small amounts at a time and dispose of it unless the next coin is very rough and it's just for a rough clean.

so is it easy to tell when it's contaminated, does it go cloudy, just want to know in case I ever do it, cheers.
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Post by: Fordprefect on May 30, 2014, 11:28:55 AM
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='50643' dateline='1401410754'so is it easy to tell when it's contaminated, does it go cloudy, just want to know in case I ever do it, cheers.
Very easy on the Decimal "Silvers".
A light Blue/Green haze on the coin.
Treating with acetone does not guarantee a long term
preventative measure, the damage to the coin surface
may well allready have occured.

1971 Mint Set 50c PVC Present
November 2012
(http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/ford_prefect/Australian%20Coin%20Forum/Fridays%20Photos/1971_50c_PVC_zps8ffd3120.jpg)

After Acetone Treatment
Eureka, so I thought :yahoo:
December 2012
(http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/ford_prefect/Australian%20Coin%20Forum/Fridays%20Photos/1971_50c_White_zpse34bb9eb.jpg)

The Coin To-Day
Bummer the damage to surface had already occured :dodgy:
Reverse is damaged beyond repair.
May 2014
(http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/ford_prefect/Australian%20Coin%20Forum/Fridays%20Photos/1971_50c_12mthsAfterAcetone_zps33477967.jpg)
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Post by: ausjack on May 30, 2014, 11:43:19 AM
bummer, so the lesson here is if you clean them get rid of them pretty quickly afterward unless you really like the coins and can live with the look.

nice pic's BTW FP :good:
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Post by: Fr45h3R on May 30, 2014, 06:20:56 PM
Quote from: 'Fr45h3R' pid='50371' dateline='1401187784'I'm hoping that it's possibly ink, and an acetone bath lifts it.

No luck with the acetone. Happy for other suggestions.
Too bad though, the strong die polish lines on the reverse look outstanding.

I've put this into my dansco. Nothing wrong with another one (up to 5 aunc / unc ones including 2 x slabbed ones)
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Post by: ausjack on May 30, 2014, 06:42:51 PM
NOOOOOOOOO and it's so nice and no no suggestions sorry Rob :(
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Post by: robbiegal on May 30, 2014, 07:41:06 PM
where is the PVC damage on this 1971 fifty cent?
is it in and around the 50   ?
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Post by: Fordprefect on May 30, 2014, 08:07:14 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='50701' dateline='1401444666'where is the PVC damage on this 1971 fifty cent?
is it in and around the 50   ?
Follow the The Red Arrows
That stuf is rough crusty black carbonised metal.
The rest of the coin is "As Struck"
(http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/ford_prefect/Australian%20Coin%20Forum/Fridays%20Photos/IMG_0042-cropA_zps247572f4.jpg)
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Post by: robbiegal on May 30, 2014, 08:23:54 PM
bummer
the coin looks smashing

and thank-you Fordie
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Post by: ausjack on May 30, 2014, 08:58:51 PM
yes it's a real shame as it's nice except for that..note to self, really look at older coins in PVC sets :(