The present Mint issue from the RAM states the following:
QUOTE The mobile press will also be making an appearance at the
Rotary International Convention in Sydney from 1–4 June 2014."\\
If anyone is going, any chance of getting TWO of whatever coin they are using the Portable Press on please.
PM me costs and bank details when available.
Thanks
Are these listed in the Currency determination?
Will they be the Voyage to Terra Australis "S" couterstamp the same as the Easter Show coins ?
One never knows Interest.
I have sent the RAM an email asking what coin will be stamped. If and when I get answer I shall post it here.
The convention will be held at the Sydney Olympic Stadium.
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='49545' dateline='1400492794'I have sent the RAM an email asking what coin will be stamped.
The Mint Issue says S Terra Australis.
apparently we are getting all these counterstamped Voyage to Australis coins. Now in regards to the "S" it doesn't say where they will be done ie: The Royal Easter show, ANDA show or the Rotary International Convention.
But obviously the Rotary & RES coins will be the same (but different)
$1 Copper, Aluminium and Nickel 'S' Counterstamp Coin – A Voyage to Terra Australis
$1 Copper, Aluminium and Nickel 'P' Counterstamp Coin – A Voyage to Terra Australis
$1 Copper, Aluminium and Nickel 'M' Counterstamp Coin – A Voyage to Terra Australis
$1 Copper, Aluminium and Nickel 'A' Counterstamp Coin – A Voyage to Terra Australis
$1 Copper, Aluminium and Nickel 'B' Counterstamp Coin – A Voyage to Terra Australis
YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY ?
:laugh2: did ya button get stuck accu :angel:
One never knows with an international conference, the coin could be in different packaging or overstamped........?
Is anyone planning to go and have a look see?
A post from the RAM's Facebook page:
"We are in Sydney again from tomorrow! We have been invited to participate in Rotary's 2014 International Convention in Sydney.
The Mint will have a booth at the convention from the 31st May until 4th June 2014, including our mobile press. We'll be giving those attending the conference the chance to pick up an 'S' for Sydney 2014 $1 A Voyage to Terra Australis uncirculated coin.
It is the same coin that was on offer at the Sydney Royal Easter Show and will be seen again at the Sydney ANDA Show later this year. For more info: http://www.ramint.gov.au/media/noticeboard/2014/20140529.cfm
Check out the photos of one of our 'Minties' helping with set-up. And you can find us near the RM Williams truck."
So there are going to be 3 kinds of this coin.
(Please note- the Royal Australian Mint will be attending the Sydney ANDA show later this year and will have the 'S' for Sydney 2014 $1 A Voyage to Terra Australis uncirculated coin and mobile press available there as well. Full mintage of this coin will be 10 000.)
10,000 divided between the three events
Generally have 5,000 at each ANDA show, must mean they didn't do many at the Royal Easter Show, Might send them a tweet & ask.
Anyone heading to Rotary International Convention in Sydney from 1–4 June 2014?
Please PM me as I would like to secure a couple of S Counterstamp coins.
Happy to pay beforehand?
Thanks in advance.
From me.
@RoyalAustMint if U R @ ANDA SYD with same S $1 as Rotary total mintage of 10K how many did U do at Royal Easter Show?
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RoyalAustralianMint
@RoyalAustMint
Not sure of the amount but the mintage will remain 10,000.
Hoped on a train & went to Olympic park today to get some of the "S" Sydney counterstamped dollar coins for folks.
WOW,, I could not believe the amount of people there were 1,000's it was like a river of people I was stunned at the amount there were people from all around the world.
So I found where the Mint would be, (The hall of Friendship) people were streaming into this place like the messiah was giving eternal life,
I am not joking. I got in a queue got to the door & this guy stops me & said I don't have identification I can't go in. Found out where I get registered to gain entry, headed there, went up to the counter, "I want to register please."
"Yes sir, that will be $410.00 USD" No no no you don't understand I don't want to buy the place I just want to go in the hall of Friendship"
"Yes sir that is the cost, there was a day pass for Saturday for $44.00USD, but you have missed that so the fee is $410 USD"
Thanks but no thanks.
So I went back to the hall of Friendship & got in the middle of a group of people & snuck past the doorman, but two cops seen me & threw me out cause I didn't have identification.MAN.
So I went to another door that had people from Mongolia walking in. got past security right up to a point where everybody's identification is scanned in & also when they leave. so I pretended I'd lost my identification, what will I do now?? put on a bit of a scene. This other security guard comes up to see what's the problem, "this Rotarian here has lost his pass"
Come with me & I'll take you down to lost & found you can report it lost. I said there are to busy to leave so I will go by myself.
Anyway I was not able to get into The hall of Friendship. To get anything.
Sorry bout that. but I sure tried.
Hi Interest, Well done, you deserve a medal mate. Nobody can say you didn't try, that's for sure! $400 and something? what a rip off! Sorry in advance for this :police_car::laughingneqw::wavemulticolor:
A valiant effort, Interest. Nobody can say you didn't try.
Wow, really? So you couldn't just stop buy and pickup a coin. That's very harsh. NOT very friendly!
Sounds like an unusual spot for the RAM to set up if collectors couldn't get in there. Bad luck Interest but looks like you gave it a good go!
Pedro
What a crazy scenario, you should have arrived in a boat.!!! :dodgy:
Quote from: 'Robster' pid='51003' dateline='1401746294'What a crazy scenario, you should have arrived in a boat.!!! :dodgy:
$410 may even buy a ticket on one these days. On another tack though :dodgy:, if all the international Rotarians bought up big, the "S" counter stamp may be difficult to source later on :idea:
Unbelievable! A great effort though Interest!
Quote from: 'autocoupler' pid='51005' dateline='1401747150'Quote from: 'Robster' pid='51003' dateline='1401746294'What a crazy scenario, you should have arrived in a boat.!!! :dodgy:
$410 may even buy a ticket on one these days. On another tack though :dodgy:, if all the international Rotarians bought up big, the "S" counter stamp may be difficult to source later on :idea:
That $410 was USD not AUD.
The "S" dollar there is the same as the "S" that they sold at the Royal Easter Show, last month & will be the same as they sell at ANDA Sydney.
So haven't really missed out on anything except the fact that I don't have the dollar from this pressing, I have the RES & I will get the ANDA. even though there the same, it will be just like getting a coin from the left press at the Mint & not one from the right press.
I know, yeah, there the same, but I always get one from each, & one from everywhere else, always have, bit I've just been stopped.
Oh & I tried to get three Volunteers to go in & get me some coins, but they only had their "station" where they could be at any one time,
I asked a few people if I could borrow their identifications so I could get in they all refused (bastards, I thought Rotarians were helpful, LOL)
Then I asked four different people if they would go in & get me the coins, three refused, but hen John, from Stoke on Trent was almost going to do it for me until I wanted to give the $100 to get the coins. Then he went cold because he did not want to take the money in case something happened.
I have never seen security like it, every one was scanned at every turn, but nobody seemed to mind.
If there's no difference in the coin, is there a difference in the packaging?
Quote from: 'triplewitch' pid='51038' dateline='1401763095'If there's no difference in the coin, is there a difference in the packaging?
Nah,, just where it's done.
Don't give me grief, I know what your saying.
WHY????? Cause I do.
I think GS might do the same but please don't quote me :)
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='51048' dateline='1401765367'I think GS might do the same but please don't quote me :)
Because I did !!!!
Ooo ya gotta watch him that's for sure, he's a bit of a sly one isn't he :winkextra:
Me not sly and I am sorry you didn't get to the RAM stand for the coins interest.
I think that this episode might need to be told to the RAM that they advertised it but didn't give full details of how and where to get in.
I think the RAM may have lost a lot of local collectors as a result.
:mocking: No I'm just being naughty sorry Bruce, your ok mate and actually pretty cool in my books for looking after our little mate :friends:
No, that's ok aj< NO HARM DONE. pEOPLE ARE FOREVER HAVING A GO AT ME......
yeah me too, but like they say about water and a ducks back :)
Hey Interest ... good effort OMG I'm totally disgusted and frustrated what a joke :(
Come on runway what surprises you about what the mint does these day as not much surprises me any more mate and thanks for the emails, very cheeky to say the least :winkextra:
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='51101' dateline='1401804028'Come on runway what surprises you about what the mint does these day as not much surprises me any more mate and thanks for the emails, very cheeky to say the least :winkextra:
Glad there was no special folders on the day...**** me off really about good intentions when the "special" organisations think they are top dog.I have no time for such groups who seek funding but snob you at the same time ... told same to the street stall holders trying to raise funds via raffle tickets...they can stick it up their ****
*****moderator language edit -let's keep this forum family friendly please
as copied from email.
"The coin press is on the move again and will be travelling to Brisbane for the annual Ekka Show from 8-16 August 2014 where you will be able to make your own 'B' counterstamp on the Voyage to Terra Australis coin. We will also be at the ANDA Show in Melbourne from 8-9 August and although the mobile press will be in Brisbane we are bringing along pre-stamped 'M' counterstamp coins for sale to make sure you don't miss out."
Now that's novel.
Plus the fact that we already have the "B" counterstamp from the ANDA show.
That makes three different kinds of "S"counterstamps from Sydney.
Two different kinds of "B" counterstamps so far, from Brisbane.
It's all getting too much!!
So I guess the packaging will be the only difference for the two B counterstamp coins.
Quote from: 'Mister T' pid='56042' dateline='1406943964'So I guess the packaging will be the only difference for the two B counterstamp coins.
I would think the packaging will be the same.
Will be interesting to see if the parent coin is from the same batch as previous counter stamps for this year i.e. edge reeding alignment with letters in obverse legend. The RAM has created considerable interest with their mobile press offerings, but IMHO continue to not get it right. It would be so easy for them to use a unique punch die in order to distinguish counter stamp coins from different events at the same city. The boys in the tool room could knock them up in no time.
obviously you have never seen the portable press up close then
- the original die piece for the coins is simply modified, in fact they are only stamping the letter onto a pre stamped coin, they don't make a new die pppfffft that would be more money to spend, why would you waste money on a new die, that's just bad business decisions
- so when you see the coin counter stamped it is just stamping a letter onto a coin
I will look for some pics, its just a raised black square on the original die piece, and the the die piece is just for show so you can see what the design looks like
here are pics I took of the counter stamp 50c die, the $1 die are similar
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10011/press_1.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10011/press_2.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10011/press_3.jpg)
Quote from: 'Australian coin' pid='56083' dateline='1407034494'obviously you have never seen the portable press up close then
- the original die piece for the coins is simply modified, in fact they are only stamping the letter onto a pre stamped coin, they don't make a new die pppfffft that would be more money to spend, why would you waste money on a new die, that's just bad business decisions
- so when you see the coin counter stamped it is just stamping a letter onto a coin
I will look for some pics, its just a raised black square on the original die piece, and the the die piece is just for show so you can see what the design looks like
here are pics I took of the counter stamp 50c die, the $1 die are similar
Yeah A C, I was just talking about the letter punch. The boys in the tool room probably do a few of each letter from time to time, and IMO it shouldn't be difficult to add a dot to the odd one to indicate a unique event or location. But no, I hadn't taken a close look see at the setup before. Thanks for the pics :)
The virgin coins before letter punch are what we all want to get our hands on,some have escaped the circus and seen for sale occasionally with 4 figure price
Quote from: 'Mister T' pid='56042' dateline='1406943964'So I guess the packaging will be the only difference for the two B counterstamp coins.
I've got a bit of a concern with this coin. We had hundreds of collectors go along to ANDA where they paid an inflated $10 per coin for a B counterstamp "A voyage to Terra Australis" coin. One justification for that cost is the limited mintage and the RAM has stated that there would be a limited mintage of 7500 for this coin.
Now the RAM tells us that the press with be at the Ekka producing B counterstamp "A voyage to Terra Australis" coins.
There is no way the mintage of this coin will be the stated 7500 maximum. It is irrelevant that the coin was counterstamped at 2 different sites or on different dates. It would also be irrelevant if the packaging was different because, to me, mintage applies to a coin not a product.
My wife will be dragging me along on Monday so I might have to ask them how this complies with their limited mintage policies. The packaging may be different as the ANDA folder specifies the 7500 mintage.
Alternatively the 7500 mintage is very high for a Brisbane ANDA (2012 was 5000 for ANDA and last year was max mintage of 10000 for the EKKA). Perhaps if they only sold 2000-3000 at ANDA in May they are coming to the EKKA with an intention of packing up when they reach the 7,500.
I'd also be very dirty if the ANDA counterstamp coin had been an exceptionally low mintage.
Am I missing something here?
Quote from: 'Steveqld' pid='56355' dateline='1407401625'Alternatively the 7500 mintage is very high for a Brisbane ANDA (2012 was 5000 for ANDA and last year was max mintage of 10000 for the EKKA). Perhaps if they only sold 2000-3000 at ANDA in May they are coming to the EKKA with an intention of packing up when they reach the 7,500.
It would be disappointing if a potentially low mintage ANDA B was nullified by the addition of exact same counter stamped dollars from the EKKA. After all, one of the reasons people collect is the hope of seeking out and acquiring a rarity.
This is what I was getting at in an earlier post, and it should be an easy fix if they're committed to fixing it. One of the letter punches used for the counter stamp process requires a dot or something just as simple incorporated within it's design. This would differentiate one counter stamped dollar from say Brisbane ANDA, and another from Brisbane EKKA.
Quote from: 'autocoupler' pid='56362' dateline='1407404376'Quote from: 'Steveqld' pid='56355' dateline='1407401625'Alternatively the 7500 mintage is very high for a Brisbane ANDA (2012 was 5000 for ANDA and last year was max mintage of 10000 for the EKKA). Perhaps if they only sold 2000-3000 at ANDA in May they are coming to the EKKA with an intention of packing up when they reach the 7,500.
It would be disappointing if a potentially low mintage ANDA B was nullified by the addition of exact same counter stamped dollars from the EKKA. After all, one of the reasons people collect is the hope of seeking out and acquiring a rarity.
This is what I was getting at in an earlier post, and it should be an easy fix if they're committed to fixing it. One of the letter punches used for the counter stamp process requires a dot or something just as simple incorporated within it's design. This would differentiate one counter stamped dollar from say Brisbane ANDA, and another from Brisbane EKKA.
Gee I can't see that they would be too interested in doing something like that.
"When one size fits all"
All three Sydney counterstamped coins are the same,
Sure one dot, two dots, three dots or whatever sounds okay to me, would be cheaper than changing the folder.
Wonder if Maccas next year will have the different coins from different functions listed, or will it just be a group listing?
I am quite happy that they haven't altered the mintmark for each venue.
It is hard enough just getting the different counter stamp coins let alone getting a variety of the same counter stamps as well :dash1:
Quote from: 'trout' pid='56390' dateline='1407442338'I am quite happy that they haven't altered the mintmark for each venue.
It is hard enough just getting the different counter stamp coins let alone getting a variety of the same counter stamps as well :dash1:
I don't have a problem with them being the same for the reason stated by Trout so long as the RAM is open about it up front. If the RAM advertises a max mintage of 7500 but from experience I know only about 2500 are going to be counterstamped at ANDA but the RAM is aware of the possibility of additional coins from the EKKA then it's a gamble rather than an informed choice.
If, at ANDA, the RAM had stated additional coins may be counterstamped at the EKKA then no-one can take issue as they know the possibility.
I'm surprised they are attending the EKKA with the portable press rather than Melbourne ANDA. At the former they can only counterstamp about 5000 to reach the 7500 mintage whereas at ANDA they would sell about 3500. So for the additional 1500 (which they could have pre-counterstamped) they will pay 10 or 11 days travelling expenses for 3 or 4 staff compared to 3 or 4 days travelling costs for ANDA.
Not seeking to alter anyone's opinion here, as we all collect and enjoy the hobby for many different reasons. For me though, intrigue, mystery and rareness is what stirs the blood. There is intrigue and mystery to some degree as evidenced by the discussion, but same ol same ol is boring, but that's just me :good:
Hi Runaway..
I have a couple of those virgin coins..
Cheers paul
2007 Eureka stockade missing mint mark
Quote from: 'Swan dollar' pid='56409' dateline='1407458737'Hi Runaway..
I have a couple of those virgin coins..
Cheers paul
2007 Eureka stockade missing mint mark
Quote from: 'Swan dollar' pid='56409' dateline='1407458737'Hi Runaway..
I have a couple of those virgin coins..
Cheers paul
2007 Eureka stockade missing mint mark
Quote from: 'Swan dollar' pid='56409' dateline='1407458737'Hi Runaway..
I have a couple of those virgin coins..
Cheers paul
2007 Eureka stockade missing mint mark
Certainly unique since there is no such thing as a 2007 Eureka stockade coin from RAM :dodgy:
Quote from: 'autocoupler' pid='56362' dateline='1407404376'Quote from: 'Steveqld' pid='56355' dateline='1407401625'Alternatively the 7500 mintage is very high for a Brisbane ANDA (2012 was 5000 for ANDA and last year was max mintage of 10000 for the EKKA). Perhaps if they only sold 2000-3000 at ANDA in May they are coming to the EKKA with an intention of packing up when they reach the 7,500.
It would be disappointing if a potentially low mintage ANDA B was nullified by the addition of exact same counter stamped dollars from the EKKA. After all, one of the reasons people collect is the hope of seeking out and acquiring a rarity.
This is what I was getting at in an earlier post, and it should be an easy fix if they're committed to fixing it. One of the letter punches used for the counter stamp process requires a dot or something just as simple incorporated within it's design. This would differentiate one counter stamped dollar from say Brisbane ANDA, and another from Brisbane EKKA.
Wouldn't it be easier just to use a different font? Look at the S on the wartime silver, some had a serif and some were sans serif. Perhaps a normal B and an italics B to differentiate ANDA and EKKA?
Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='59254' dateline='1410873955'Quote from: 'autocoupler' pid='56362' dateline='1407404376'Quote from: 'Steveqld' pid='56355' dateline='1407401625'Alternatively the 7500 mintage is very high for a Brisbane ANDA (2012 was 5000 for ANDA and last year was max mintage of 10000 for the EKKA). Perhaps if they only sold 2000-3000 at ANDA in May they are coming to the EKKA with an intention of packing up when they reach the 7,500.
It would be disappointing if a potentially low mintage ANDA B was nullified by the addition of exact same counter stamped dollars from the EKKA. After all, one of the reasons people collect is the hope of seeking out and acquiring a rarity.
This is what I was getting at in an earlier post, and it should be an easy fix if they're committed to fixing it. One of the letter punches used for the counter stamp process requires a dot or something just as simple incorporated within it's design. This would differentiate one counter stamped dollar from say Brisbane ANDA, and another from Brisbane EKKA.
Wouldn't it be easier just to use a different font? Look at the S on the wartime silver, some had a serif and some were sans serif. Perhaps a normal B and an italics B to differentiate ANDA and EKKA?
It surely would, but do you think they care enough to want to do that?
I'm sorry but I don't think they do.
The pre stamped "S" coins that were unsold at the Royal Easter Show were taken to the Rotary exhibition, those still unsold coins will be taken to the ANDA show.
Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='59254' dateline='1410873955'Wouldn't it be easier just to use a different font? Look at the S on the wartime silver, some had a serif and some were sans serif. Perhaps a normal B and an italics B to differentiate ANDA and EKKA?
I don't know the answer to that. I guess it depends on how much effort is required to produce a punch with a different font, compared to adding just a dot. So long as we end up with one product that is distinguishable from another.
After seeing the brissie anda I can't see how it would be that hard to make one in a square, one in a circle, one in a star or what ever shape they want as it's only the tiny little B that got stamped as the coins were done and then it would be easier for the collector to pick them if they're into that sort of thing..just a though and don't think the mint would listen.
A little bird tells me the portable press will not be attending the usual coin shows this year. No mention of the agricultural shows though.
RAM "should" be supporting ANDA shows with portable press attendance I hope so anyway
Why should the RAM support ANDA when there is a much bigger attendance at the Agricultural Shows?
I am a firm believer that if the RAM attends ANDA Shows, then the attendance is high providing the Portable press is with them, but when the RAM does not have the Portable press at the ANDA Shows, then attendance is quite poor.
The RAM has generally supported ANDA shows as well as the Agricultural shows
http://agencysearch.australia.gov.au/search/search.cgi?query=ANDA&collection=agencies&form=simple&profile=mint&start_rank=11
I'm sure the RAM dealers who attend ANDA shows appreciate the RAM mobile press attendance
http://www.ramint.gov.au/designs/dealers/index.cfm
It is the Portable Press that attracts people and not ANDA.