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Numismatic Discussion => Coin and Banknote Grading => Topic started by: stevo1962 on May 11, 2014, 11:23:07 AM

Title: 1928 sixpence
Post by: stevo1962 on May 11, 2014, 11:23:07 AM
Does anyone think that this coin has a chance of making MS63?


(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10137/28a.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10137/28b.jpg)
Title: RE: 1928 sixpence
Post by: trout on May 11, 2014, 11:25:23 AM
Yes
Looks the goods to me Mate :good:
Title: RE: 1928 sixpence
Post by: echidna on May 11, 2014, 04:08:11 PM
62 or 63.
50/50
Title: RE: 1928 sixpence
Post by: dcoin on May 11, 2014, 08:25:58 PM
I'd say it would grade AU58.
Title: RE: 1928 sixpence
Post by: ausjack on May 11, 2014, 09:44:13 PM
sweet stevo, ya still going hard mate, good on ya and thanks for sharing :)
Title: RE: 1928 sixpence
Post by: serial on May 11, 2014, 10:20:45 PM
I really would love to say yes but honestly I think you will struggle to break 60. I see to much wear on the high points and chatter in the fields to grade any higher than 61 after comparing it to the PCBs population report picture of a 64

However best of luck I do hope it makes 63+
Title: RE: 1928 sixpence
Post by: markn on May 12, 2014, 07:32:41 AM
I think you should give it a swim in some acetone for a few days and then post up some new pictures.  It looks AU58/MS62 to me.
Title: RE: 1928 sixpence
Post by: stevo1962 on May 12, 2014, 07:37:05 AM
Quote from: 'markn' pid='48899' dateline='1399845761'I think you should give it a swim in some acetone for a few days and then post up some new pictures.  It looks AU58/MS62 to me.

Might be worth a try
Title: RE: 1928 sixpence
Post by: emu666 on May 12, 2014, 07:57:46 AM
Band full, moustache full, no flattening on emu; possibly a tiny bit of friction on HM's shoulder (but could be just discolouration); quite a bit of bagging in the fields but the lustre appears to flow into the fields from the lettering. Unc; a solid MS62. Would make MS63 only if the lustre is a lot stronger than appears in the scan (can be hard to show lustre in scan) and there are no hairline scratches (these rarely show in scans). I wouldn't think eye appeal to be good enough for a plus grade.
Title: RE: 1928 sixpence
Post by: stevo1962 on May 12, 2014, 08:10:48 AM
Thanks for the comments everyone.I would say with the lack of wear it will go at least MS62 and if
it doesn't go any higher I've probably overpaid but that's the fun of taking a chance so I'll have to
wait and see when it arrives
Title: RE: 1928 sixpence
Post by: serial on May 12, 2014, 08:52:14 AM
well we all know how your grading gambles go :)
knowing your luck this coin will hit 68 :P
anyway good luck and don't forget to show us your result so we can learn from it
Title: RE: 1928 sixpence
Post by: stevo1962 on May 12, 2014, 09:33:54 AM
Quote from: 'serial' pid='48911' dateline='1399850534'well we all know how your grading gambles go :)
knowing your luck this coin will hit 68 :P
anyway good luck and don't forget to show us your result so we can learn from it

Thanks Serial I'm probably in front so far.Here is a good example of
how deceptive some coins can be.Sold to me and rated by a few forum
members as EF or good EF but was actually much better

 http://www.australian-coins.net/showthread.php?tid=2194

     PCGS Result
  http://www.pcgs.com/Cert/29486982.html
Title: RE: 1928 sixpence
Post by: emu666 on May 12, 2014, 09:39:56 AM
Your original image did not show any lustre.
It is extremely difficult to grade from a scan.
Title: RE: 1928 sixpence
Post by: markn on May 12, 2014, 10:01:49 AM
Quote from: 'emu666' pid='48914' dateline='1399853396'Your original image did not show any lustre.
It is extremely difficult to grade from a scan.

+1 to that.  It's hard enough to grade from good images let alone from bad ones.  It's great that everyone posts up their wins on this forum but sometimes I think it would be more educational to post up the coins you mucked up on and compared your own images of coins against the original sellers images.

I know more than enough about the way that images are taken to know that an image can hide/disclose information about the coin.  For example, the way the sellers images of the 1928 florin were taken would hide hairlines.  It also hides lustre (as emu66 pointed out).  While I am happy for you that it graded so well it's nothing more than luck that the coin didn't have hairlines because you simply couldn't tell from the image.
Title: RE: 1928 sixpence
Post by: wwwww on May 23, 2014, 06:02:32 PM
Stevo, you reflect the light into the lens in your photos, this hides the surface quality and lustre which makes it impossible to accurately grade.
Title: RE: 1928 sixpence
Post by: stevo1962 on May 23, 2014, 07:11:44 PM
Quote from: 'wwwww' pid='49927' dateline='1400833952'Stevo, you reflect the light into the lens in your photos, this hides the surface quality and lustre which makes it impossible to accurately grade.

Hopefully these photos are a bit better Walter

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10137/20140523_193236.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10137/20140523_193247.jpg)
Title: RE: 1928 sixpence
Post by: robbiegal on May 24, 2014, 12:05:39 AM
much better!!! well done!!
Title: RE: 1928 sixpence
Post by: wwwww on May 24, 2014, 08:41:49 AM
Yes that gives a better idea but the first sixpence photos were ok anyway, I was referring to the florin and earlier photos.

Just one tip though, photograph the coins straight down, when you have an angle the perfect lighting angle becomes difficult to calculate and it's difficult to get the whole coin in focus.
Title: RE: 1928 sixpence
Post by: stevo1962 on May 24, 2014, 08:49:55 AM
Quote from: 'wwwww' pid='49977' dateline='1400886709'Yes that gives a better idea but the first sixpence photos were ok anyway, I was referring to the florin and earlier photos.

Just one tip though, photograph the coins straight down, when you have an angle the perfect lighting angle becomes difficult to calculate and it's difficult to get the whole coin in focus.

What grade would you estimate Walter?
Title: RE: 1928 sixpence
Post by: wwwww on May 24, 2014, 11:33:31 AM
MS62+
Title: RE: 1928 sixpence
Post by: robbiegal on May 24, 2014, 11:35:41 AM
kitty nods in agreement (PCGS extraordinaire etc etc assessor!! ha ha)
Title: RE: 1928 sixpence
Post by: stevo1962 on May 24, 2014, 11:50:52 AM
Quote from: 'wwwww' pid='49998' dateline='1400897011'MS62+

That would be perfect thanks Walter
Title: RE: 1928 sixpence
Post by: stevo1962 on September 17, 2014, 02:19:13 PM
Better than expected result for this one

http://www.pcgs.com/Cert/30435120.html
Title: RE: 1928 sixpence
Post by: markn on September 17, 2014, 02:21:42 PM
Quote from: 'stevo1962' pid='59290' dateline='1410929353'Better than expected result for this one

http://www.pcgs.com/Cert/30435120.html

A good result for you!
Title: RE: 1928 sixpence
Post by: trout on September 17, 2014, 02:39:13 PM
Nicely done mate, Shame about the "Bagging" on the obverse otherwise I recon it would of graded higher than 63, Well done :good:
Title: RE: 1928 sixpence
Post by: ausjack on September 18, 2014, 06:48:37 AM
:yahoo: love ya work Steve, mate your getting ok at this grading game as your better being low and getting the higher grade than being disappointed when it comes back lower, well that's what I think :winkextra: