Ok just sussin Andersen's quicksales and seen this so wondering if anyone here has one or seen one as it's the first I've heard about it so I'll be lookin a little closer at them from now on and see if I can jag one me self :angel:
http://www.quicksales.com.au/ad/very-scarce-1981-wales-twenty-cent/5107694
Interesting variety.
If you can locate a CAB article around 2005 or 2006 written by two forum members brissyboy and eccentric on the 1981 20c you can find out more details.
Basically they contacted both the Royal Mint and the Royal Canadian Mint and obtained pictures of the archival specimens kept by the two mints.
Those from the RCM were all "3 1/2 claw" variety, thus confirming the long held conjecture that the 3 1/2 claws were struck in Canada.
One of the RM specimens had that die chip in the swirl.
That is fairly well know as being correct on the R.M coins, seen a few of them when I was looking at the 3.5 claw,they also can have a weak first claw.
Not uncommon in circulated coins, but it is hard to get an uncirculated coin.
These it seems were not put aside because they did not appear different to the RAM coins.
But gee I don't know I'd be paying $50.00 for a circulated one.
Just my opinion though.
If I had not edited the last two lines both post's would have gone up at the same time.
Quote from: 'interest' pid='48816' dateline='1399770593'Not uncommon in circulated coins, but it is hard to get an uncirculated coin.
That turns out not to be the case.
As an exercise perhaps you could get some coins from the bank and see if you find one.
Quote from: 'interest' pid='48816' dateline='1399770593'But gee I don't know I'd be paying $50.00 for a circulated one.
Just my opinion though.
With the die chip, a relatively scarce coin in any grade.
I thiink cheap at this price.
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='48793' dateline='1399764935'Ok just sussin Andersen's quicksales and seen this so wondering if anyone here has one or seen one as it's the first I've heard about it so I'll be lookin a little closer at them from now on and see if I can jag one me self :angel:
http://www.quicksales.com.au/ad/very-scarce-1981-wales-twenty-cent/5107694
I purchased one of these in UNC, hell must have been ten years ago. Didn't get it from Mr Andersen though, got mine from Mr Skinner :D
Quote from: 'emu666' pid='48819' dateline='1399771096'Quote from: 'interest' pid='48816' dateline='1399770593'Not uncommon in circulated coins, but it is hard to get an uncirculated coin.
That turns out not to be the case.
As an exercise perhaps you could get some coins from the bank and see if you find one.
Quote from: 'interest' pid='48816' dateline='1399770593'But gee I don't know I'd be paying $50.00 for a circulated one.
Just my opinion though.
With the die chip, a relatively scarce coin in any grade.
I thiink cheap at this price.
When I was going through 1981's for 1981 body outline (http://www.australian-coins.net/showthread.php?tid=114&page=6)
I came across this circulated chipped coin I wont say often, but it did turn up, When I threw all the 81 coins back, they went with them.
The main problem being that it just appeared to be another scratch or ding on the coin & not of interest to me.
Had I known that they are going for $50.00 in that condition,
Would have kept the buggers.
goes to check files, brb
nope got none
Quote from: 'interest' pid='48844' dateline='1399778474'Quote from: 'emu666' pid='48819' dateline='1399771096'Quote from: 'interest' pid='48816' dateline='1399770593'Not uncommon in circulated coins, but it is hard to get an uncirculated coin.
That turns out not to be the case.
As an exercise perhaps you could get some coins from the bank and see if you find one.
Quote from: 'interest' pid='48816' dateline='1399770593'But gee I don't know I'd be paying $50.00 for a circulated one.
Just my opinion though.
With the die chip, a relatively scarce coin in any grade.
I thiink cheap at this price.
When I was going through 1981's for 1981 body outline (http://www.australian-coins.net/showthread.php?tid=114&page=6)
I came across this circulated chipped coin I wont say often, but it did turn up, When I threw all the 81 coins back, they went with them.
The main problem being that it just appeared to be another scratch or ding on the coin & not of interest to me.
Had I known that they are going for $50.00 in that condition,
Would have kept the buggers.
You may have been in a location where many of the die chip coins were released.
The mintage of the 1981 20c was 265 million and a single die will produce maybe 200,000 to 500,000 coins so on average you'd find the die chip coins roughly 1 in 500 to 1 in 1000 coins.
By the way, the coin in that listing is way above average circulated.