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Australian Coins, Banknotes and Exonumia => Australian Errors and Varieties => Topic started by: Ozcoins on November 07, 2012, 11:50:20 PM

Title: $1 grease filled die found today
Post by: Ozcoins on November 07, 2012, 11:50:20 PM
Was given a $1 in change today with a lot of the detail (inc the date) missing.
I will try to post a pic soon.
Title: RE: $1 grease filled die found today
Post by: trout on November 07, 2012, 11:58:05 PM
Quote from: 'Ozcoins' pid='2663' dateline='1352294420'Was given a $1 in change today with a lot of the detail (inc the date) missing.
I will try to post a pic soon.

Sweet :cool:
Title: RE: $1 grease filled die found today
Post by: Ozcoins on November 08, 2012, 09:23:11 AM
Hope this pic works.
Title: RE: $1 grease filled die found today
Post by: trout on November 08, 2012, 09:36:14 AM
Quote from: 'Ozcoins' pid='2680' dateline='1352328791'Hope this pic works.

Nah have another crack at it:angel:
Title: RE: $1 grease filled die found today
Post by: Ozcoins on November 08, 2012, 09:39:26 AM
Pic was to large.
I had to resize before I could post it.
What do you lot think of it?
Title: RE: $1 grease filled die found today
Post by: Fordprefect on November 08, 2012, 09:42:50 AM
Quote from: 'Ozcoins' pid='2682' dateline='1352329766'Pic was to large.
I had to resize before I could post it.
What do you lot think of it?
Not real good :idea:
Image not here yet:angel:
Title: RE: $1 grease filled die found today
Post by: trout on November 08, 2012, 09:55:22 AM
Quote from: 'Ozcoins' pid='2682' dateline='1352329766'Pic was to large.
I had to resize before I could post it.
What do you lot think of it?

I realy don't know.
Looks prety marked up.
It could be a "geaser" or it could be the result of some idiot buffing it with a wire brush attachment on a hand drill.
either way I would keep it , It only cost you 2 bucks :good:
Title: RE: $1 grease filled die found today
Post by: Nevol on November 08, 2012, 10:13:41 AM
There are several sort of circular lines on it, they may be due to sanding, also might be a BIG fingerprint, not too sure, only cost you $1, keep as a curio. :winkextra:
Title: RE: $1 grease filled die found today
Post by: enworb on November 08, 2012, 10:30:46 AM
Looks good to me
Title: RE: $1 grease filled die found today
Post by: Fordprefect on November 08, 2012, 10:36:08 AM
There is no remaining original surface to the coin.
You would only be guessing.
Excess circulation wear on a poor strike.
Title: RE: $1 grease filled die found today
Post by: Ozcoins on November 08, 2012, 11:29:40 AM
I am pretty sure the lines you can see are a fingerprint.
The rim is not damaged at all and there is still some pretty much perfect text "LIZABETH  II".
The other side is still in good condition.
Title: RE: $1 grease filled die found today
Post by: trout on November 08, 2012, 11:38:04 AM
Quote from: 'Ozcoins' pid='2689' dateline='1352336380'I am pretty sure the lines you can see are a fingerprint.
The rim is not damaged at all and there is still some pretty much perfect text "LIZABETH  II".
The other side is still in good condition.

i'll leave this one to the experts mate.
Most greasers i have seen dont obliterate 90% of the coins features but just small portions of them.
If this is a greaser it is a monster:angel:
Title: RE: $1 grease filled die found today
Post by: markn on November 08, 2012, 11:41:01 AM
Looks all right to me too.  Get it on some scales, if it's within 0.1g of 9.0g I'd call it genuine.
Title: RE: $1 grease filled die found today
Post by: emu666 on November 08, 2012, 12:25:47 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='2690' dateline='1352336884'
Quote from: 'Ozcoins' pid='2689' dateline='1352336380'I am pretty sure the lines you can see are a fingerprint.
The rim is not damaged at all and there is still some pretty much perfect text "LIZABETH  II".
The other side is still in good condition.

i'll leave this one to the experts mate.
Most greasers i have seen dont obliterate 90% of the coins features but just small portions of them.
If this is a greaser it is a monster:angel:

I've seen them with more obliterated than that one. It is probably a 2006 dollar. Years ago I rescued a few showing various stages of missing detail, almost certainly due to oil on the obverse die. I may even have found the precursor; a 2006 struck through what appeared to be a piece of oily leather.
Here's an image of one of the intermediate ones; I'll try to find an image of the precursor.
(http://www.thesandpit.net/dollars/Die_fill_o.JPG)
Title: RE: $1 grease filled die found today
Post by: Ozcoins on November 08, 2012, 09:52:49 PM
Trout,
I like your description and agree. It's a "monster"!!
I think I had the same reaction when someone else posted a similar "monster greaser" on ccf  a while ago.
Having found/held this one, I am fairly confident it Is a legitimate error.
Emu666. Thanks for your post. How did you determine they were 2006? I have not looked at this one with magnification yet,  but I do not expect I will be able to read the date at all.
Title: RE: $1 grease filled die found today
Post by: trout on November 08, 2012, 10:14:34 PM
Quote from: 'Ozcoins' pid='2737' dateline='1352373769'Trout,
I like your description and agree. It's a "monster"!!
I think I had the same reaction when someone else posted a similar "monster greaser" on ccf  a while ago.
Having found/held this one, I am fairly confident it Is a legitimate error.
Emu666. Thanks for your post. How did you determine they were 2006? I have not looked at this one with magnification yet,  but I do not expect I will be able to read the date at all.

As I am not an error collector/expert I will have to concur with your judgment.
Nice find mate
:wavemulticolor:
Title: RE: $1 grease filled die found today
Post by: Graham on November 10, 2012, 10:26:55 AM
To me 2006 seemed like a great year for strike throughs (I still don't like the US term of greaser).  Here a couple that I found.
Title: RE: $1 grease filled die found today
Post by: emu666 on November 10, 2012, 06:14:27 PM
This may have been struck at the start of the trouble:

(http://www.thesandpit.net/dollars/2006_o.JPG)

Some apparently oily foreign object (possibly leather or something similar). After a while the oil starts spreading across the obverse die.
Title: RE: $1 grease filled die found today
Post by: Ozcoins on November 10, 2012, 06:40:30 PM
That is interesting.
I wonder if out is possible to make something like a stop motion video of the progression of the damage?
Title: RE: $1 grease filled die found today
Post by: Ozcoins on November 21, 2012, 09:25:26 PM
Quote from: 'markn' pid='2691' dateline='1352337061'Looks all right to me too.  Get it on some scales, if it's within 0.1g of 9.0g I'd call it genuine.

I weighed it today and it was 9.03g
Title: RE: $1 grease filled die found today
Post by: markn on November 22, 2012, 06:58:58 PM
Quote from: 'Ozcoins' pid='3697' dateline='1353495326'
Quote from: 'markn' pid='2691' dateline='1352337061'Looks all right to me too.  Get it on some scales, if it's within 0.1g of 9.0g I'd call it genuine.

I weighed it today and it was 9.03g

Real deal.  Nice find. :wavemulticolor:
Title: RE: $1 grease filled die found today
Post by: Ozcoins on November 23, 2012, 09:32:40 PM
Just thought I would add a pic of it on the scale
Title: RE: $1 grease filled die found today
Post by: Goldseeker on November 23, 2012, 09:54:27 PM
I have some of these coins and here they are:   (All coins weigh 9gms)