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Title: dieclash help please
Post by: ausjack on April 17, 2014, 07:49:57 AM
Can I have some help with dieclashes please, I have done an advance search on feebay and this is all I come up with :(
http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_nkw=australian+die+clash+coins&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=0&_okw=&_oexkw=&_adv=1&LH_Complete=1&_udlo=&_udhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=200&_fpos=&LH_SALE_CURRENCY=0&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=50

So wondering if they're worth any thing and if there's anything about decimal dieclash anywhere and what coins they are more common on, thank you :hi:
Title: RE: dieclash help please
Post by: Unicorn on April 17, 2014, 09:23:33 AM
Off the top of my head.

I'm pretty sure there's the ones on the reverse of the COA 50c. I've been going to sort mine out for ages to see what years and if they are a true clash.

Also, apart from my 1998 10c in the wiki (that Mark did such a great job of image overlaying), I'm pretty sure Nevol's posted a fair number of 10c too.
Title: RE: dieclash help please
Post by: emu666 on April 17, 2014, 01:39:14 PM
You may have some success with the 5c series.
Title: RE: dieclash help please
Post by: ausjack on April 17, 2014, 03:58:11 PM
So just keep sussin everything, thanks for your help :hi:

I think I have a 2010 5 cent as well but it's hard to get a good pic and it's pretty crappy as always sorry :(
if you look near the bridge of the nose and it has a funny mark
(http://i60.tinypic.com/2ryh5wh.jpg)
and then on the obverse there these funny marks
(http://i59.tinypic.com/30sy1lk.jpg)
(http://i58.tinypic.com/1to8p3.jpg)
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2ahup2f.jpg)
Title: RE: dieclash help please
Post by: Unicorn on April 17, 2014, 04:16:19 PM
Looks like it might be the real deal to me AJ!
Title: RE: dieclash help please
Post by: Nevol on April 17, 2014, 04:35:47 PM
The marks on the Rev are definitely die clash marks.  The couple 5 cent Obv ones I've got have reverse impressions of the claws in front of HM's mouth, a line through her eyebrow and part of the P'pus Bill and top of the 5 as lines under her ear.   Not sure what's under her chin, looks a bit lumpy.

This is my 2006 one. The lines in front of the mouth are quite obvious and I've indicated the others on the 2nd image.
 
(http://i62.tinypic.com/ta544n.jpg)

.(http://i61.tinypic.com/ivjwpx.jpg)
Title: RE: dieclash help please
Post by: robbiegal on April 17, 2014, 07:14:28 PM
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='46677' dateline='1397686797'Can I have some help with dieclashes please, I have done an advance search on feebay and this is all I come up with :(
http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_nkw=australian+die+clash+coins&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=0&_okw=&_oexkw=&_adv=1&LH_Complete=1&_udlo=&_udhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=200&_fpos=&LH_SALE_CURRENCY=0&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=50

So wondering if they're worth any thing and if there's anything about decimal dieclash anywhere and what coins they are more common on, thank you :hi:
gee AJ
I have never done a 'die clash' search on ebay before
many of those 1940's coins are more what I think are called  'ghosting' - there is a ghosted image of the king's effigy but I think that it isn't formed by die clash - more a die pressure issue I think
whereas, say the 1943 halfpenny in the list - that is definitely die clash

die clash
from the ebay listings
(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/dieclash_zps79efb94c.jpg)(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/dieclash1963_zps8181953c.jpg)

ghosting
(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/dieclashghosting_zps9fec6551.jpg)
Title: RE: dieclash help please
Post by: ausjack on April 17, 2014, 09:38:18 PM
:yahoo: big kisses for Nevol, if you didn't put those pic's up I wouldn't have notice the others around the mouth area but they are fainter than yours but I'll have to try and get some pic's tomorrow in the sun as I see more on mine behind the head on the hair and neck line, so a huge thanks mate :friends:

And thanks for that RG as I see the difference as one has like a distinct line and the one on the bottom has as you say a ghost effect, pretty cool mate :good:
Title: RE: dieclash help please
Post by: robbiegal on April 17, 2014, 10:13:34 PM
cheers AJ
(my recollection here) I think the ghosting is caused by very soft strikes when they were trying to preserve die life during the war years (remember they had to get a stack of currency made overseas as we didn't have enough cash circulating with all the USA soldiers over here etc etc)
so in doing the softer strikes the pressure wasn't enough to force the metal higher up & into the relief of the die patterns , so they are all squishy looking

whereas, the true clash is from there being a missing planchet and then the two empty dies clash together , thus, a true outline that is raised can be seen easily on the surface of the coin
me thinks that is the explanation anyways :)
Title: RE: dieclash help please
Post by: ausjack on April 18, 2014, 09:13:47 AM
sounds good to me RG :)

As I'm running in safe mode I can't down load my last lot of pics but as soon as I can I'll post them..bloody computers :(
Title: RE: dieclash help please
Post by: robbiegal on April 18, 2014, 09:41:22 AM
AJ
I bought an external flash drive thingee (1 terabit or something like that - cost $100)
every now and again I move my millions of photos over to the drive and my computer runs soooo much faster after I move the huge photos files into storage
Title: RE: dieclash help please
Post by: ausjack on April 18, 2014, 09:49:08 AM
Thanks RG, I've cleaned it all up a few times but as it's out of date I may as well get this second hand one as this lasted me about 5 years so that's ok for $150 as well :good: I'll clean this all out and see if I can use it for games or I'll take it out the back and put a bit of petrol on it and watch it burn baby burn :laugh2:
Title: RE: dieclash help please
Post by: robbiegal on April 18, 2014, 10:04:53 AM
get the gold out of it first!
Title: RE: dieclash help please
Post by: ausjack on April 18, 2014, 10:35:16 AM
GOLD, GOLD ya say, where will I find said gold and will it be worth the trouble as most of the time it's not :winkextra: