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Title: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: emu666 on April 02, 2014, 09:30:18 AM
This one is a cracker:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/360895336457?orig_cvip=true&clk_rvr_id=612660582744
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: accumulator on April 02, 2014, 10:05:24 AM
Quote from: 'emu666' pid='45487' dateline='1396393218'This one is a cracker:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/360895336457?orig_cvip=true&clk_rvr_id=612660582744

As i said on the other forum,i'd give up my left testy to have this in my collection !
They removed my comment over there >>>> family site & all you know :winkextra:

Don't think there will be any chance of me being able to afford the end price though.
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: Fordprefect on April 02, 2014, 10:28:59 AM
Strange place to sell a very desirable error.
Probably a 4 figure coin at any of the Auction Houses.
Shall watch. (Only)
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: emu666 on April 02, 2014, 10:33:31 AM
Quote from: 'accumulator' pid='45488' dateline='1396395324'
Quote from: 'emu666' pid='45487' dateline='1396393218'This one is a cracker:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/360895336457?orig_cvip=true&clk_rvr_id=612660582744

As i said on the other forum,i'd give up my left testy to have this in my collection !
They removed my comment over there >>>> family site & all you know :winkextra:

Don't think there will be any chance of me being able to afford the end price though.


I'll advise the seller of your offer but I suspect he'd prefer cash to body parts.
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: markn on April 02, 2014, 10:35:23 AM
Quote from: 'Fordprefect' pid='45490' dateline='1396396739'Strange place to sell a very desirable error.
Probably a 4 figure coin at any of the Auction Houses.
Shall watch. (Only)

ShaneW on CCF seems to think it's worth $10,000.  I bet the seller would be stoked to get that for it :)
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: Fordprefect on April 02, 2014, 10:39:16 AM
Quote from: 'markn' pid='45492' dateline='1396397123'
Quote from: 'Fordprefect' pid='45490' dateline='1396396739'Probably a 4 figure coin at any of the Auction Houses.
ShaneW on CCF seems to think it's worth $10,000.  I bet the seller would be stoked to get that for it :)
Must have been found in a Diggers slouch hat then :-:angel:
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: Fulvio on April 02, 2014, 11:09:23 AM
Quote from: 'accumulator' pid='45488' dateline='1396395324'They removed my comment over there >>>> family site & all you know

Nah, they're yanks, and they all look like Ken and Barbie dolls under their clothes. :angel:

Hmmm... Neal and I were over there the other day, and he never mentioned he had this. Damn.. woulda loved to get up close and personal with it! :)

Wonder what else is lying around?
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: nealeffendi on April 02, 2014, 11:11:49 AM
Quote from: 'emu666' pid='45487' dateline='1396393218'This one is a cracker:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/360895336457?orig_cvip=true&clk_rvr_id=612660582744

Saw that beauty just after it was listed. I bid on it  and had the highest bid:yahoo:
For about 5 minutes:(
Getting too rich for my pocket and I'm sure the deep pockets will send it up into the 4 figures.
Any way to work out the mint and/or the year?
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: ausjack on April 02, 2014, 11:24:13 AM
between 38 and 52 is all I can tell from those pic's sorry, bloody nice coin :(
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: accumulator on April 02, 2014, 11:27:17 AM
Quote from: 'markn' pid='45492' dateline='1396397123'
Quote from: 'Fordprefect' pid='45490' dateline='1396396739'Strange place to sell a very desirable error.
Probably a 4 figure coin at any of the Auction Houses.
Shall watch. (Only)

ShaneW on CCF seems to think it's worth $10,000.  I bet the seller would be stoked to get that for it :)


Well, I guess we already know who the new owner will be,unless someone else is prepared to pay more of course, i'm thinking not though.
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: ausjack on April 02, 2014, 11:28:19 AM
and I say between 38 and 52 because you can just see the back of George VI head and if it was George V you'd see crown and if lizzy you'd see her face so that's how I come to that :)
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: emu666 on April 02, 2014, 11:34:20 AM
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='45502' dateline='1396400299'and I say between 38 and 52 because you can just see the back of George VI head and if it was George V you'd see crown and if lizzy you'd see her face so that's how I come to that :)


We can even narrow it down a little; legend has F D tather than FIDEI DEF and F is lined up with a denticle so it from 1938 to 1948 and either a Melbourne or Perth Mint coin; but not Bombay.
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: ausjack on April 02, 2014, 11:42:45 AM
Thanks Peter, I'm learning all the time :good:
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: enworb on April 02, 2014, 11:57:40 AM
We could shill bid it up for our mate shane?
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: ausjack on April 02, 2014, 12:07:30 PM
:laugh2: your a shocker Matty, knowing my luck I'd get stuck with it and have to sell everything I own just for the deposit :-/
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: markn on April 02, 2014, 12:07:36 PM
Quote from: 'enworb' pid='45508' dateline='1396402060'We could shill bid it up for our mate shane?

I think I'd get murdered if I bid it up to $9750 and then he didn't buy it.
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: ausjack on April 02, 2014, 12:19:29 PM
don't worry mate, we'd all come to the wake :friends:

What sort of flowers would you like PP :(
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: markn on April 02, 2014, 12:20:35 PM
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='45512' dateline='1396403369'don't worry mate, we'd all come to the wake :friends:

What sort of flowers would you like PP :(

Cauliflowers.
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: ausjack on April 02, 2014, 12:22:00 PM
I don't think she'd murder you Mark but I think you would be paying for a very long time :blackeye:

:laugh2: good on ya, I reckon your ears would be like cauliflowers if you even thought about bidding..wouldn't like to be in your shoes then mate, take it you can run pretty fast :winkextra:
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: purplepennyhunter on April 02, 2014, 03:43:41 PM
It's definately a coin that would fit nicely in my collection.

It needs a friend.
(http://www.timeclockmts.com/coins/australia-1-dollar-dodgy.jpg)
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: Coins from Vending on April 02, 2014, 04:01:09 PM
$501 didn't cut it either
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: Fulvio on April 02, 2014, 04:31:34 PM
Quote from: 'markn' pid='45510' dateline='1396402656'I think I'd get murdered if I bid it up to $9750 and then he didn't buy it.

What, you want to live forever? Go on, don't be a wuss... its an awesome error, and PP has a nice little playmate for it already, so it would be right at home... Heck, if I hadn't just blown my life savings I'd even play along with ya! :angel:
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: ausjack on April 02, 2014, 05:39:31 PM
Gee that's a nice one PP :good:
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: robbiegal on April 02, 2014, 07:55:50 PM
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='45496' dateline='1396399163'
Quote from: 'accumulator' pid='45488' dateline='1396395324'They removed my comment over there >>>> family site & all you know

Nah, they're yanks, and they all look like Ken and Barbie dolls under their clothes. :angel:

Hmmm... Neal and I were over there the other day, and he never mentioned he had this. Damn.. woulda loved to get up close and personal with it! :)

Wonder what else is lying around?

does that seller have a shop?
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: Fulvio on April 02, 2014, 11:21:35 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='45547' dateline='1396430750'does that seller have a shop?

He has an office, hence the no pickups condition. He was saying that he's pretty much gotten out of coins since going into precious metals... more money for less hassles. I suspect this was either from his personal collection or part of a job lot he bought to refine. Want me to ask? He's probably read this thread already anyway. ;)
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: robbiegal on April 03, 2014, 06:10:43 PM
Oh so he is a member? hello there!

just curious as it is good to know where shops are small or bigger - the smaller ones are usually more friendly
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: Fulvio on April 04, 2014, 04:51:59 AM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='45611' dateline='1396510843'the smaller ones are usually more friendly

I find it has nothing to do with the size of the premises, and everything to do with the personality of the owner actually. Although perhaps the wrong sort of person may well tend to go for bigger and showier, come to think of it... :dodgy:
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: markn on April 07, 2014, 06:39:21 PM
This finished at $860. A little more than I expected.
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: nealeffendi on April 07, 2014, 06:51:38 PM
Quote from: 'markn' pid='46092' dateline='1396861761'This finished at $860. A little more than I expected.

I was watching that and those 2 UNC overdates (penny and half) that all finished within a few minutes of each other.
Don't see that many Unc variety coins on eBay very often.
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: robbiegal on April 07, 2014, 09:20:48 PM
Quote from: 'markn' pid='46092' dateline='1396861761'This finished at $860. A little more than I expected.

hummm .... and where will that little treasure be posted to?
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: markn on April 22, 2014, 01:47:46 PM
Well this arrived today.  A bit disappointed in it, scuffed on all the high points indicating that perhaps it came out of scrap.  Hairlines on one side of the unstruck part of the planchet.  Technically it's UNC but probably not something we'd have bought if we saw it in hand.  Still it's an interesting error.

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/australia-1938-1952-1d-off-center.jpg)
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: Australian coin on April 22, 2014, 02:07:42 PM
cool, no idea of date, can you tell by the head what time frame
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: Fordprefect on April 22, 2014, 02:17:52 PM
Quote from: 'Australian coin' pid='47122' dateline='1398141462'cool, no idea of date, can you tell by the head what time frame

Back on page two:-

Quote from: 'emu666' pid='45503' dateline='1396400660'
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='45502' dateline='1396400299'and I say between 38 and 52 because you can just see the back of George VI head and if it was George V you'd see crown and if lizzy you'd see her face so that's how I come to that :)


We can even narrow it down a little; legend has F D tather than FIDEI DEF and F is lined up with a denticle so it from 1938 to 1948 and either a Melbourne or Perth Mint coin; but not Bombay.
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: markn on April 22, 2014, 02:20:01 PM
Quote from: 'Australian coin' pid='47122' dateline='1398141462'cool, no idea of date, can you tell by the head what time frame

AJ identified earlier in this thread as a George VI penny (1938 to 1952).  I guess one of the penny-philes may be able to narrow it down based on denticle alignment.  I'd probably rule out it being an Indian minted coin, the roo's head looks wrong and the reverse denticles don't look right.
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: Australian coin on April 22, 2014, 02:20:33 PM
cool, only skip tru posts, didn't put much effort into learning pennies, only that the ones to look for 1930, 1925 etc hahaha
thx FP

eek lost me at Indian minted and denticles, bahaha thx mark
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: accumulator on April 22, 2014, 02:45:48 PM
Nice Coin !, whats with the extra flat areas & the denticle patterns a little further up than the actual strike ?
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: markn on April 22, 2014, 02:51:16 PM
Quote from: 'accumulator' pid='47129' dateline='1398143748'Nice Coin !, whats with the extra flat areas & the denticle patterns a little further up than the actual strike ?

Yes I was wondering that myself.  The flat part I understand, it's the top of the collar or whatever is around the die to contain it.  The other denticle bits?  Maybe they are not denticles, perhaps it's some part of the blank being pushed against bits of the press it was never supposed to be pressed against.
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: emu666 on April 22, 2014, 08:07:41 PM
Quote from: 'markn' pid='47116' dateline='1398140266'Well this arrived today.  A bit disappointed in it, scuffed on all the high points indicating that perhaps it came out of scrap.  Hairlines on one side of the unstruck part of the planchet.  Technically it's UNC but probably not something we'd have bought if we saw it in hand.  Still it's an interesting error.

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/australia-1938-1952-1d-off-center.jpg)

That's a pity. Are you going to return it?
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: trout on April 22, 2014, 09:44:00 PM
QuoteThat's a pity. Are you going to return it?
:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: markn on April 23, 2014, 09:59:29 AM
Quote from: 'emu666' pid='47160' dateline='1398163061'That's a pity. Are you going to return it?

Would you?
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: ausjack on April 23, 2014, 10:08:12 AM
I'm reckoning that the mark on the top of the coin on the pic on the right is either an M or and N from the obvers die going off the little flicked up bit, can't think of anything else that would go there..but I could be wrong but I doubt it :laugh2:

also added the V and the X sorry :)

the denticle things looks the same as the obvers as the reverse has those little straight bits between the round bits
Title: RE: nice off centre strike penny
Post by: emu666 on April 24, 2014, 10:57:07 AM
Quote from: 'markn' pid='47192' dateline='1398212969'
Quote from: 'emu666' pid='47160' dateline='1398163061'That's a pity. Are you going to return it?

Would you?


If I was unhappy with it and it wasn't as described I would return it.