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World Coins, Banknotes and Exonumia => World Coins => Topic started by: Triggersmob on March 02, 2014, 07:52:18 PM

Title: George and the Dragon
Post by: Triggersmob on March 02, 2014, 07:52:18 PM
I posted a pick of Gibraltar coin with the George and the Dragon design and it got me thinking, how many different coins use this design or something similar.
Please post pics of your coins.
Here is the Gibraltar coin to kick it off.

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10113/2003_Gibraltar_One_Pound.JPG)

and a Russian 5 Kopeks
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10113/2006_Russia_5_Kopeks.JPG)

I'll keep a running count...

Australia/ Great Britain
Gibraltar
Russia
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: Nevol on March 03, 2014, 04:00:57 PM
Australia Half Sovereign 1908S
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10007/Half_Sov_1908S_Duo.jpg)

Closest I've got to a Sovereign;

Imitation Sov (Gilt) 1823  

It belonged to my FIL, has been mounted at some long ago time, nothing else known about it.

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10007/Imitation_28Gilt29_Sov_1823_Duo.jpg)
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: Triggersmob on March 05, 2014, 08:07:04 PM
Well is that it?
Only four coins the whole world with that design.
I thought there would be lots more. :)
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: Fr45h3R on March 05, 2014, 08:19:56 PM
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Great-Britain-1935-Rocking-Horse-Crown-PROOF-aFDC-Mintage-2500-/380852964963?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item58ac9b0e63

And same as ones before, but in proof
(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y484/Fr45h3R/DSCF1194_zpse397f004.jpg)
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: trout on March 05, 2014, 08:54:43 PM
I regret selling a whole bunch of Brit crowns with this famous design on them when Silver hit $48 per oz a while back ( they were all worn cleaned coins) and I didn't keep any :dash1:
The Brit Crowns and the Sovereigns are IMHO the most recognized coins with this design on them .
I am amazed that no other member has posted a Brit crown yet :angel:
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: Nevol on March 05, 2014, 09:53:38 PM
I have a couple 1951 Festival Of Britain Crowns and have looked but can't find them. :angel:
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: Fordprefect on March 06, 2014, 12:32:34 AM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='43162' dateline='1394015083'I am amazed that no other member has posted a Brit crown yet :angel:
Just for you, thought it was a Half Crown
(http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/ford_prefect/Australian%20Coin%20Forum/1819Rev_zps3c055ca1.jpg)
(http://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv160/ford_prefect/Australian%20Coin%20Forum/1819Obv_zps1f5910c7.jpg)
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: Nevol on March 06, 2014, 08:34:41 AM
Found them!  My GB Crown is nearly a twin to FP's.

GB 1819 Crown
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10007/Crown_1819_Duo.jpg)

GB 1935 Rocking Horse Crown (Stylized, but still a St George & Dragon)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10007/Crown_1935_Rocking_Horse_Duo.jpg)

GB 1951 Festival of Britain Crown
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10007/Crown_1951_Festival_of_Britain_Duo.jpg)
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: trout on March 06, 2014, 08:56:42 AM
I just knew I kept one , thanks for reminding me Nevol :)

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/51_crown.jpg)

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/51_crown_1~0.jpg)

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/51_crown_2.jpg)

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/51_crown_3.jpg)

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/51_crown_4.jpg)
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: Nevol on March 06, 2014, 01:30:42 PM
C,mon folks!  There are plenty more George & Dragon coins out there.  

I've done a little research and found at least 7 Countries that have used it .  There are 39 Types with 6 different denominations and spanning the reigns of 6 K's & Q's, plus 1 other Country.

I'm hoping some of you have some different ones to show us. :angel:

There may very well be more than what I found.

Edit: I added all the Russian versions and the data now is:
7 Countries
13 Denominations
51 Types (Different metals etc)
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: markn on March 06, 2014, 01:49:29 PM
This is all I have to add.

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/great-britain-1902-crown-pcgs-ms64.jpg)
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: Nevol on March 06, 2014, 02:11:23 PM
Sweet!:angel:
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: trout on March 14, 2014, 09:02:01 PM
My Gibraltar coin was in the mail when I got back from Bush.
A bit dinged for an Unc coin but still very nice 

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/one_pound1.jpg)

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/one_pound.jpg)
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: Triggersmob on March 15, 2014, 12:30:47 AM
Like Nancy said above, sweet. :)
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: Fulvio on March 15, 2014, 03:19:28 AM
Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='43207' dateline='1394057081'GB 1951 Festival of Britain Crown

Gorgeous coin, that one! :)

And because they take better piccies than I could, here's the official RM pic of my £20 coins.

(http://www.royalmint.com/~/media/Images/Products/U/UK13FVS/_L_UK13FVS_02.ashx)
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: Goldseeker on March 15, 2014, 11:22:12 AM
Only ones that I have are the Aussie Sovereigns that are in my SDB in town.
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: Nevol on March 23, 2014, 02:36:28 PM
Russia 1 Kopek 1998
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10007/Russia_1998_1_Kopek_Duo_St_George_Dragon.jpg)

Russia 50 Kopek 2003
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10007/Russia_1998_50_Kopek_2005_Duo_St_George_Dragon.jpg)
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: Triggersmob on March 23, 2014, 06:08:26 PM
Nice pics, Nancy.
I thought there would be more countries with this design.
Could have sworn I'd seen more over years.
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: Splock on April 03, 2014, 05:51:26 PM
The Royal Mint have made attempts in recent time to modernise the design for the sovereign, but with little success.

First in 2005

(http://www.bullionbypost.co.uk/media/uploads/images/2012/02/22/2005_sov.jpg)

Then in 2012

(http://www.bullionbypost.co.uk/media/uploads/images/2011/11/02/2012_Bullion_Sovereign_Reverse_1.jpg)

Images from Bullion by Post website
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: ausjack on April 03, 2014, 05:59:17 PM
ummm yeah not the best lookin coins but like some of ours latest I think they could have done a better job, the 2012 is the nicer lookin coin of the two but both are pretty sad really and to think someone gets paid big money to do this :( Thanks Splock :good: and haven't had a reply on the knife coin yet so they might have shut down.
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: robbiegal on April 03, 2014, 07:03:35 PM
my only lonely one
(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/resized2_zps0e8787f3.jpg)(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/resized_zps03385b55.jpg)
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: Triggersmob on April 03, 2014, 07:27:27 PM
I like that one, Robbiegal.
Looks like George broke his lance in the Dragon and is coming back for the kill.
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: ausjack on April 03, 2014, 07:30:57 PM
gee that's a nice coin for it's age RG
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: robbiegal on April 03, 2014, 07:34:23 PM
Nevol posted pics of that same coin earlier in this thread - that one looks about the same grade too
I really like the design - I think it is referred to as the 'Art Deco' design
I have been eyeing that coin design for years and finally found a nice enough one to buy at the local coin show last year
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: Nevol on April 03, 2014, 09:54:11 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='45627' dateline='1396515863'I really like the design - I think it is referred to as the 'Art Deco' design
Yep and it's also known as the Rocking Horse Crown. :angel:
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: Robster on April 04, 2014, 12:05:13 AM
"Never ride without a helmet". even if you are a 'Saint'.! lol.
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: Splock on April 04, 2014, 08:29:08 AM
Wise words Robster. On this medal he's wearing a halo is that sufficient protection? This is the George Medal, which is the second level civil decoration of the United Kingdom and Commonwealth. It was instituted on 24 September 1940 by King George VI and is presented to civilians performing acts of bravery. The reverse depiction of St. George & Dragon was designed by none other that George Kruger-Gray, he of the KG initials on the reverse of Australian pre-decimals among others.

(http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/uploads//monthly_01_2013/post-8022-0-12045100-1359658808.jpg)
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: Robster on April 04, 2014, 09:51:07 AM
(http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o787/robster836/001_zpsa31b886f.jpg)

My one and only.!
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: nealeffendi on April 04, 2014, 02:50:12 PM
Splock, thanks for showing the George Medal.
Like the George Cross it can be awarded to military personnel (not just civilians), lots of recipients are soldiers doing courageous deeds (like defusing UXBs) both in war and peace.
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: robbiegal on April 04, 2014, 05:26:13 PM
never thought of the feathered helmet as a halo
I will always see George in a different light now!
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: trout on April 04, 2014, 05:29:41 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='45768' dateline='1396594573'never thought of the feathered helmet as a halo
I will always see George in a different light now!

I think the "Halo" is on the George Medal Kruger Grey design and not the Puccini design which is a Roman style helmet which was used for the Crowns and sovs.
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: ausjack on May 06, 2014, 07:34:32 AM
:yahoo: Well I can finally play but won't say who it was but someone here has been holding out on us Mr Trigg as I got this and think it's so cool :)
(http://i61.tinypic.com/1zyut5.jpg)

Sorry for crappy pic but too early so I'll take another when the sun is a bit higher and lights the coin more
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: Triggersmob on May 06, 2014, 07:50:55 AM
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='48302' dateline='1399327472'won't say who it was but someone here has been holding out on us Mr Trigg

What am I getting blamed for now? :)
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: markn on May 06, 2014, 07:52:27 AM
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='48302' dateline='1399327472':yahoo: Well I can finally play but won't say who it was but someone here has been holding out on us Mr Trigg as I got this and think it's so cool :)

That looks interesting AJ.  What is it?
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: ausjack on May 06, 2014, 07:55:27 AM
No no not you sorry Steve, just saying I got this from another member the other day and they could have posted it but they might not have known they had it as it was in a nice little bulk lot and has some other, well what I think are pretty cool coins tokens and medals so I'll get around to posting more later..so no your not in trouble mate :friends:

Oop's sorry Mark didn't see your post pop up there, umm I think it's some sort of medal, I'll try and get some better pic for you so be back soon, I hope :)

Here's some better pic's for ya Mark :ok:
(http://i59.tinypic.com/e7i6f8.jpg)
(http://i57.tinypic.com/34dfs7b.jpg)
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: robbiegal on May 06, 2014, 05:07:02 PM
AJ
if my memory serves me right (which is hardly ever really does)
This is a sailors token/charm that they carried for good luck on the bonny blue seas
tokens at times had exchange values depending on the port/country and the currency that was available there
(i.e. Australia used tokens a heck of a lot as the colonial Australia didn't actually have any money to speak of!)
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: ausjack on May 06, 2014, 09:20:02 PM
Cool, very informative thanks for that RG, being an old slat I might have to put it in me wallet for luck, Shiite I need all I can get these days :)
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: robbiegal on May 07, 2014, 05:06:35 PM
yeah - I have a different one that I also keep for good luck
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: ausjack on May 07, 2014, 05:39:32 PM
SHOW ME..please :)
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: ausjack on May 18, 2014, 10:02:42 PM
Kel is such a nice bloke and he knows I like world coins and he gave me one of these little beauty's, yeah no dragon sorry but thought it should still be able to make it having George but could also make it as a sports themed coin
(http://i61.tinypic.com/vpgs35.jpg)
flip side  
(http://i59.tinypic.com/n6dix3.jpg)
Title: RE: George and the Dragon
Post by: Triggersmob on May 18, 2014, 10:46:23 PM
Nice coin AJ.
I like the design of this coin.
it really does look like a basketball. :)