I don't seem to be able to find a dedicated thread to this variety so here is one. There has been a lot of discussion here and on CCF in various threads about this coin.
Eccentric (who is a member here also) posted on CCF (http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=170931&whichpage=2) some key info to the history of this coin which I've just added to the wiki entry (http://wiki.australian-coins.net/wiki/australian-coins/decimal-coins/fifty-cent-coins/fifty-cent-errors-varieties/2000-fifty-cent-millennium-incuse-flag-variety/).
I just sent an email to PCGS to try and get these coins attributed correctly .
I however have noticed that they have updated the description of my AU58 coin to "Millennium Relief Flag "
Alas that isn't what was printed on my slab :cray:
http://www.pcgs.com/Cert/28777470.html
This is a step in the right direction but it is still incorrect, I hope my email assists in getting these coins slabbed with the correct attribution on them in future :ok:
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='42621' dateline='1393295286'I don't seem to be able to find a dedicated thread to this variety so here is one. There has been a lot of discussion here and on CCF in various threads about this coin.
Eccentric (who is a member here also) posted on CCF (http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=170931&whichpage=2) some key info to the history of this coin which I've just added to the wiki entry (http://wiki.australian-coins.net/wiki/australian-coins/decimal-coins/fifty-cent-coins/fifty-cent-errors-varieties/2000-fifty-cent-millennium-incuse-flag-variety/).
Cheers PP, Can you do the honors and cut and paste the new thread I just created to this one please and delete that thread for me :angel:
hey Trout
Did you have to pay more for the variety attribution?
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='42627' dateline='1393298335'hey Trout
Did you have to pay more for the variety attribution?
I honestly don't know, I will have to have a squiz at the PCGS site :ok:
Looks like an extra $24 for that :dodgy:
Quote from: 'trout' pid='42624' dateline='1393296326'I just sent an email to PCGS to try and get these coins attributed correctly .
I however have noticed that they have updated the description of my AU58 coin to "Millennium Relief Flag "
Alas that isn't what was printed on my slab :cray:
http://www.pcgs.com/Cert/28777470.html
This is a step in the right direction but it is still incorrect, I hope my email assists in getting these coins slabbed with the correct attribution on them in future :ok:
They are all the same. It's not a new number for the variety.
pop lookup (http://www.pcgs.com/pop/pcgsnolookup.aspx?s=114403)
QuoteThey are all the same. It's not a new number for the variety.
I noticed that but at least they changed the description to "Millennium Relief Flag " instead of just "Millennium".
Like I said it is a good start but not perfect yet, At least they have made some attempt to sort this out.
WOW
14 coins at MS66 and better
Quote from: 'trout' pid='42630' dateline='1393298818'
WOW
14 coins at MS66 and better
That's not correct. There is no differentiation to the standard coin.
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='42631' dateline='1393299196'Quote from: 'trout' pid='42630' dateline='1393298818'
WOW
14 coins at MS66 and better
That's not correct. There is no differentiation to the standard coin.
OK,
I was looking at a MS68 coin and it isn't an incused coin.
Any idea of how many of these have been graded so far?
Well Mark's MS64 doesn't have an image. Emu666 might have an idea, not sure if he's about or holidaying in Bali!
Relief is the normal coin guys. The fact that they've changed the name suggests they are making the change to recognise the incuse variety with a new coin number.
Quote from: 'trout' pid='42630' dateline='1393298818'14 coins at MS66 and better
They'll most likely be regular coins from a mint set.
Quote from: 'markn' pid='42635' dateline='1393307957'Relief is the normal coin guys. The fact that they've changed the name suggests they are making the change to recognise the incuse variety with a new coin number.
I hope they do this in the next few weeks because I have another one in the system at PCGS :angel:
PPH, you might need to correct the wiki entry. Wasn't the CCF posters talking about Trouts coin at $750 in AU58. So $100 should be $1,000 for any that are uncirculated.
Might want to see if any poster with an Unc example will put some nice images in the wiki.
Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='42638' dateline='1393308379'PPH, you might need to correct the wiki entry. Wasn't the CCF posters talking about Trouts coin at $750 in AU58. So $100 should be $1,000 for any that are uncirculated.
Might want to see if any poster with an Unc example will put some nice images in the wiki.
You are welcome to add these to the wiki if you like, I would do it myself but I am clueless :angel:
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/unc_incuse1~0.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/unc_incuse~0.jpg)
Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='42638' dateline='1393308379'PPH, you might need to correct the wiki entry. Wasn't the CCF posters talking about Trouts coin at $750 in AU58. So $100 should be $1,000 for any that are uncirculated.
Might want to see if any poster with an Unc example will put some nice images in the wiki.
Trout hasn't sold that as far as I am aware? I also wouldn't count on accurate pricing until the variety is recognised on the holder. How is it going to deter a buyer just going on your say-so that it's the variety. Personally I would much prefer to have it recognised by the big service. I know there's a wavy 2 in existence in a regular MS (64?) slab. That would just annoy me.
I'm sure we'll have news soon and Mark's coin will be going on a second holiday.
Before I sent this over they said they'd recognise the incuse flag. Unfortunately they didn't.
Coin is brilliant with a number of heavy bagmarks.
http://www.pcgs.com/Cert/26046494/
(I'm sure I've posted this before)
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='42641' dateline='1393310019'I'm sure we'll have news soon and Mark's coin will be going on a second holiday.
I wonder if it'll let me tag along.
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/on-holidays~0.jpg)
Holy Purple Penny Piña Coladas Batman! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5_EIikdFr8)
I hope that coin does well for you at PCGS JIM as it looks like the one that we all thought was cleaned when I put photos up last year
because of the halo around the lettering
http://www.australian-coins.net/showthread.php?tid=1368
Quote from: 'stevo1962' pid='42647' dateline='1393312048'I hope that coin does well for you at PCGS JIM as it looks like the one that we all thought was cleaned when I put photos up last year
because of the halo around the lettering
http://www.australian-coins.net/showthread.php?tid=1368
It's a different coin, The one I got off you is safely tucked away in my 50 cent collection :good:
I got this one off ebay for about $80 if I recall correctly :)
That isn't a "Halo" its the reflection of my camera lens along with my fingers.
This one has a shine on it like the wedding set coins .
Quote from: 'trout' pid='42648' dateline='1393313556'Quote from: 'stevo1962' pid='42647' dateline='1393312048'I hope that coin does well for you at PCGS JIM as it looks like the one that we all thought was cleaned when I put photos up last year
because of the halo around the lettering
http://www.australian-coins.net/showthread.php?tid=1368
It's a different coin, The one I got off you is safely tucked away in my 50 cent collection :good:
I got this one off ebay for about $80 if I recall correctly :)
That isn't a "Halo" its the reflection of my camera lens along with my fingers.
This one has a shine on it like the wedding set coins .
Good to know you can still pick up a bargain if you keep your eyes open.I've dropped the ball on this coin in recent months but should really pick it up again
QuoteGood to know you can still pick up a bargain if you keep your eyes open.I've dropped the ball on this coin in recent months but should really pick it up again
Bejeebus that's all I need , MORE competition :laugh2:
seriously though go for it Mate, this one came from a crappy pic in the listing and a low feedback rating on the seller.
Sometimes the gamble does pay dividends, Most times it doesn't.
I have bought 40-50 of these coins and ended up with the AU58, your coin (which I recon would make AU55-58) and the one I now have getting graded by PCGS :ok:
The trouble is now the "Cat is out of the Bag" possibly due to "Blabberfingers :angel: and an uncirculated or MS example will probably involve donating a kidney in future :dash1:
Quote from: 'trout' pid='42648' dateline='1393313556'Quote from: 'stevo1962' pid='42647' dateline='1393312048'I hope that coin does well for you at PCGS JIM as it looks like the one that we all thought was cleaned when I put photos up last year
because of the halo around the lettering
http://www.australian-coins.net/showthread.php?tid=1368
It's a different coin, The one I got off you is safely tucked away in my 50 cent collection :good:
I got this one off ebay for about $80 if I recall correctly :)
That isn't a "Halo" its the reflection of my camera lens along with my fingers.
This one has a shine on it like the wedding set coins .
I can see that you bite your fingernails in that reflection. Is that an old bad habit or just a habit you picked up from the stress of waiting for the coins to get back from California?
QuoteI can see that you bite your fingernails in that reflection. Is that an old bad habit or just a habit you picked up from the stress of waiting for the coins to get back from California?
Its NOT a nasty habit, I do it simply so that I don't scratch my coins :angel::whistle2:
Quote from: 'trout' pid='42652' dateline='1393314794'QuoteI can see that you bite your fingernails in that reflection. Is that an old bad habit or just a habit you picked up from the stress of waiting for the coins to get back from California?
Its NOT a nasty habit, I do it simply so that I don't scratch my coins :angel::whistle2:
And you don't have clean dirt from your nails because you've already eaten it
Quote from: 'markn' pid='42645' dateline='1393310838'Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='42641' dateline='1393310019'I'm sure we'll have news soon and Mark's coin will be going on a second holiday.
I wonder if it'll let me tag along.
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/on-holidays~0.jpg)
excellent Mark!
Quote from: 'stevo1962' pid='42653' dateline='1393314899'Quote from: 'trout' pid='42652' dateline='1393314794'QuoteI can see that you bite your fingernails in that reflection. Is that an old bad habit or just a habit you picked up from the stress of waiting for the coins to get back from California?
Its NOT a nasty habit, I do it simply so that I don't scratch my coins :angel::whistle2:
And you don't have clean dirt from your nails because you've already eaten it
I only bite em I certainly don't eat em YUK
C'mon feathers , you know where most of the skeletons lie regarding these coins Mate :angel:
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='42654' dateline='1393314991'Quote from: 'markn' pid='42645' dateline='1393310838'Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='42641' dateline='1393310019'I'm sure we'll have news soon and Mark's coin will be going on a second holiday.
I wonder if it'll let me tag along.
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/on-holidays~0.jpg)
excellent Mark!
I have absolutely NO idea how you did that Mate but funny as all get up.
:laugh2:
Quote from: 'trout' pid='42655' dateline='1393315053'I have absolutely NO idea how you did that Mate but funny as all get up.
:laugh2:
Photoshop and half a dozen decent piccies to play with...
ANYTHING is possible! ;)
After reading every entry in this topic I still don't know what you people are talking about.
If there are varieties to the Millenium Incuse, how about some pickies please........
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='42664' dateline='1393321480'After reading every entry in this topic I still don't know what you people are talking about.
If there are varieties to the Millenium Incuse, how about some pickies please........
The incused IS the verity :ok: :)
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='42664' dateline='1393321480'After reading every entry in this topic I still don't know what you people are talking about.
Simply that a bunch of yanks (PCGS) haven't quite got their heads around an aussie coin variety, that's all. They'll get there eventually though, cos there's a monetary reward in it for them if they do.
QuoteTrout hasn't sold that as far as I am aware?
I did sell it but the buyer reneged .
Apparently the buyer was going to flip this for a tidy $250 profit and HIS deal fell through.
It ended up with him filing a "Significantly Not as described" Case with paypal, How on earth a PCGS graded coin at AU58 Not be as described ?
Anyway this was his statement to paypal;
" I will not sell such a bad coin, without detailed photographs and I will must describe the coin in with more detailed description especially if I am asking 500 for a 50 cent coin, not at all happy with the purchased item, but happy with the fact that the seller has agreed to refund. Regards Ash"
This was the listing;
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/181320015615?ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1561.l2649
I still haven't received the coin back yet
What a scumbag....
I would be fuming. The whole point of PCGS is it removes the selling biased/dishonest/inaccurate description.
If a deal fell through, that is the risk he was taking in playing that game. His next legitimate option is to sell it another way (eg relist on ebay).
Not wanting to worry you further, but I would be worried that the parcel you receive back will not contain the coin (but will have a tracking number that they can provide to PayPal as proof they mailed _something_).
If I was you I would be carefully videoing opening the parcel you get back.
QuoteIf I was you I would be carefully videoing opening the parcel you get back.
answering this in the misbehavers :ok:
PCGS is now recognising the incused variety of the millennium 50C. Incused coins that are in incorrect holders can be returned to PCGS to be fixed up free of charge.
Quote from: 'drakesterling' pid='42684' dateline='1393367924'PCGS is now recognising the incused variety of the millennium 50C. Incused coins that are in incorrect holders can be returned to PCGS to be fixed up free of charge.
AWSOME :wavemulticolor:
I'll send the AU58 coin back (when/IF I get it back) with my next submission :)
I am assuming that the coin I have over there at the moment getting graded will be properly attributed then?
OK, thanks for the response.
Now I might have to send a couple over and get graded and slabbed.
well done mover and shaker Trout!!
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='42779' dateline='1393412053'well done mover and shaker Trout!!
WELL someone had to bring these out of the eBay mire :whistle2:
When can I send an incused coin graded by PCGS back for reholdering ?
I listed the AU58 coin again and it lasted 4 minutes and sold for $500.
This time to a serious collector :yahoo:
Here is a group shot of the 3 different Millennium coins so you can see the difference .
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/incused_group.png)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/incused_group1.png)
Congratulations Trout!
That was a high note to end on before you hit the grindstone tomorrow!
Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='42983' dateline='1393652157'Congratulations Trout!
That was a high note to end on before you hit the grindstone tomorrow!
I only listed it again instead of sending it away to get properly designated because quite a few of the CCF members were chasing it.
In hindsight I would probably been wiser to wait and maybe get a better price with the new PCGS coin number.
NO real drama , I have another one just as nice in my 50 cent collection in a 2x2 that is staying there.
A decent price for one of these coins has been a long time coming and hopefully I have set some sort of "Benchmark Price" that other collectors can use to value their High grade incused coins.
SO looking forward to going up the other side of Meekatharra instead of the coin show , looked at the 7 day forecast 40+ all the time I will be there :@
Another 5 years and I will become a certified old fart drawing my meager pension doing what I please and I won't have to go to work unless I want to :yahoo:
Quote from: 'trout' pid='42984' dateline='1393652986'looked at the 7 day forecast 40+ all the time I will be there :@
No worries... Hat, Sunnies, Beach Towel, Sunscreen, Umbrella, Esky... Lets GO! ;)
And I thought you were already certifiable... :diablo:
Quote from: 'trout' pid='42984' dateline='1393652986'Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='42983' dateline='1393652157'Congratulations Trout!
That was a high note to end on before you hit the grindstone tomorrow!
Another 5 years and I will become a certified old fart drawing my meager pension doing what I please and I won't have to go to work unless I want to :yahoo:
Trout, you are only 59. I thought the pension age was being raised to 67?
You will have to miss 2 more ANDA shows to start collecting a pension.:-/
If you can get certified for a mental reason you can collect a pension tomorrow :taunt:
Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='42990' dateline='1393655962'Quote from: 'trout' pid='42984' dateline='1393652986'Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='42983' dateline='1393652157'Congratulations Trout!
That was a high note to end on before you hit the grindstone tomorrow!
Another 5 years and I will become a certified old fart drawing my meager pension doing what I please and I won't have to go to work unless I want to :yahoo:
Trout, you are only 59. I thought the pension age was being raised to 67?
You will have to miss 2 more ANDA shows to start collecting a pension.:-/
If you can get certified for a mental reason you can collect a pension tomorrow :taunt:
answering this in The misbehavers :ok:
Have your portfolio updated and valued
Congrats on the super fast sale!
I wonder if this will change things for the incuse 50c values?
Quote from: 'Ozcoins' pid='43054' dateline='1393757299'Congrats on the super fast sale!
I wonder if this will change things for the incuse 50c values?
It's sure as **** changing the price I was going to charge for the unc one in at work.
Quote from: 'emu666' pid='43086' dateline='1393852022'Quote from: 'Ozcoins' pid='43054' dateline='1393757299'Congrats on the super fast sale!
I wonder if this will change things for the incuse 50c values?
It's sure as **** changing the price I was going to charge for the unc one in at work.
I am hoping that this sale of mine will increase the value of the uncirculated/High grade coins so that most of the "Surviving: uncirculated coins get graded by PCGS/NGC and we can get a good idea of just how many there are out there.
IF PCGS recognise this variety and give it it's own coin number I am hoping that it will prompt the collectors that have these to get them graded and build a decent population report.
Took a chance on this one which looks to have good
detail and lustre although the seller's photos arent
very good.Was advertised as EF-aUNC
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10137/2000b.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10137/2000a.jpg)
That one could swing either way Steve.
There are a lot of rim dings tho
Quote from: 'trout' pid='43121' dateline='1393974435'That one could swing either way Steve.
There are a lot of rim dings tho
A few rim dings but nothing too serious.Much of
the rim looks undinged
I saw that one and was interested, but I know they can look better in photos than 'in hand'.
I hope it's a really nice one. Good luck!
I think I have the very first coin designated as a Millennium Incuse Flag by PCGS :yahoo:
It is only an MS62 coin but it does have the new coin number.
I have only just got the results through so nothing is available yet on the cert verification area.
29266010 525195 2000 50C Millennium Incuse Flag Australia MS62
:yahoo::wavemulticolor::yahoo::dance::dance2::dance:
Congratulations Trout!
Quote from: 'trout' pid='44221' dateline='1395243825'I think I have the very first coin designated as a Millennium Incuse Flag by PCGS :yahoo:
It is only an MS62 coin but it does have the new coin number.
I have only just got the results through so nothing is available yet on the cert verification area.
29266010 525195 2000 50C Millennium Incuse Flag Australia MS62
:yahoo::wavemulticolor::yahoo::dance::dance2::dance:
Nice result Jim.Didn't you have another incused coin in for grading or
was this the only one?
QuoteNice result Jim.Didn't you have another incused coin in for grading or
was this the only one?
This was the one I hoped would make 64, too much bagging despite the awesome lustre to make 64 :dash1:
Still waiting for the pics to show up on the PCGS site.
I must say this is the fastest turn around I have ever had with a submission, 14 working days :yahoo:
when I sent my first incused coin in I included a letter and sent an email asking that it be noted as an incused coin.
Didn't work that time but I persevered and did the same with this submission.
I would imagine that other collectors would have done the same and that is why this variety is finally recognised for what it is :good:
My lowly MS62 coin is at the top of the pops at the moment :)
I think this will only be a brief "Bask in the Sunshine" as other collectors get their coins re slabbed :d_sunny::acute:
They sure made a stuff up with the mintage figure of 16,000,000 tho
http://www.pcgs.com/pop/detail.aspx?c=5077
Quote from: 'trout' pid='44332' dateline='1395353064'They sure made a stuff up with the mintage figure of 16,000,000 tho
And Bluesheet hasn't caught on with the value as they estimate
it's worth at $2
Quote from: 'stevo1962' pid='44337' dateline='1395356214'Quote from: 'trout' pid='44332' dateline='1395353064'They sure made a stuff up with the mintage figure of 16,000,000 tho
And Bluesheet hasn't caught on with the value as they estimate
it's worth at $2
Once a few get graded and or re slabbed I imagine that figure will change :angel:
We have an MS64 to be redone. I am a bit annoyed as I knew this was coming and only sent a mechanical error sub this week, left on Monday and got checked in today. I didn't procrastinate hard enough over it!!!
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='44343' dateline='1395361725'We have an MS64 to be redone. I am a bit annoyed as I knew this was coming and only sent a mechanical error sub this week, left on Monday and got checked in today. I didn't procrastinate hard enough over it!!!
Take your time PP, I can live in the sun for another couple of weeks :)
Quote from: 'trout' pid='44351' dateline='1395366527'Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='44343' dateline='1395361725'We have an MS64 to be redone. I am a bit annoyed as I knew this was coming and only sent a mechanical error sub this week, left on Monday and got checked in today. I didn't procrastinate hard enough over it!!!
Take your time PP, I can live in the sun for another couple of weeks :)
Don't get sunburnt mate!!!
QuoteDon't get sunburnt mate!!!
HaHa
FAT chance of that happening :laugh2:
NO need for sunscreen now, there is a MS 63 coin on the pop report now.
AH well, it was nice while it lasted :)
this is the order it came from, Now that is a huge submission.
https://www.pcgs.com/Membership/sharedorder.aspx?OrderNo=20787612
Here is the very First Incused Millennium coin to be graded by PCGS as such.
It is a shame about the marks on the flag other wise this would have graded MS64 easily :dash1:
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/sml.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/sml1.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/sml2.jpg)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/sml3.jpg)
well well look at Mr hoity toity now he's into the slab game :winkextra: Good on ya mate and yes a shame but still a bloody nice coin and WAY better than anything I have so keep up the good work cobba :good:
Very nice trout :) I'll have to send mine back now.
My it does look pretty fancy in it's new slab.
It is a beauty trout! :drooling:
Pedro
Wow, it looks better than 62 doesn't it!
Eric
Quote from: 'drakesterling' pid='44822' dateline='1395753622'Wow, it looks better than 62 doesn't it!
Eric
Yes they were rather tough on this one.
The obverse would go MS65 easily but those scuff marks right slap bang in the centre of the flag blew it.
I still recon it should have been graded at MS63 at least.
I see it has been listed on ebay at a fairly high price.
Good luck with getting a sale!
I think that would make a lot of people think....
Quote from: 'Ozcoins' pid='45057' dateline='1395957130'I see it has been listed on ebay at a fairly high price.
Good luck with getting a sale!
I think that would make a lot of people think....
Not the sort of coin to list as a 99 cent start :)
Just testing the waters here :angel:
Three slabbed Incused coins sold so far that I know about.
AU58 $500
MS62 $1,155
MS63 $1,750
Just goes to show how tough these are to get in top grades.
Quote from: 'trout' pid='46979' dateline='1398041220'Three slabbed Incused coins sold so far that I know about.
AU58 $500
MS62 $1,155
MS63 $1,750
Just goes to show how tough these are to get in top grades.
PPH and I are keeping the coin wiki page on this variety updated:
http://wiki.australian-coins.net/wiki/australian-coins/decimal-coins/fifty-cent-coins/fifty-cent-errors-varieties/2000-fifty-cent-millennium-incuse-flag-variety/
Here is the link to the AU58 sale.
This listing lasted 4 minutes.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/181337610647?ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1561.l2649
Some good prices there!
I thought Jeff's might have gone higher than it did yesterday. (A bit sad for him actually).
Not sure of the grade, but it looked alright.
Mine wasn't particularly high grade. I was hoping for a little more but, that's eBay for you.
Jeff
These would all grade about VF/EF and are about the average grade for these coins.
These are scarce but certainly not Rare.
I have quite a few like these.
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/incused_group~0.png)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/incused_group1~0.png)
I have sold around 20 of these at various times and I am still holding four at present.
All similar condition to those pictured above.
More grist for the mill:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/RARE-SLABBED-UNC-MS-62-2000-INCUSED-MILLENNIUM-50-CENT-COIN-/331187658459?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item4d1c529edb
Pedro
Some poor bugger is getting ripped on this one !
Quote from: 'Pedro' pid='48109' dateline='1399080855'More grist for the mill:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/RARE-SLABBED-UNC-MS-62-2000-INCUSED-MILLENNIUM-50-CENT-COIN-/331187658459?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item4d1c529edb
Pedro
I find it hard to believe that someone actually bid on THAT :dash1:
Quote from: 'accumulator' pid='48110' dateline='1399081166'Some poor bugger is getting ripped on this one !
Might be a shill bidder, in which case he is just a buggerer.
Alot of the sellers of APCGS coins use shill bidders, 2 weeks ago that delightful chap Peter Wallace actually had a real PCGS slab on eBay. I bid on it and was in a bidding war with 2 others, both were shill bidders with hundreds of bids with Wally and I dropped out at about a third of the blue book value. The 2 shills continued to bid it up. Guess they were hoping that someone would snipe the florin.
I noticed that someone had previously bid $1000 on the incuse, but has since cancelled their bid, hence it's back at $990.
I am hoping they've read either here or CCF and realised.
Seller is very susss .... shill yes indeed .... might be a great incuse but not worth that even slabbed