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Australian Coins, Banknotes and Exonumia => Australian Decimal Circulating Coins => Topic started by: Goldseeker on February 17, 2014, 09:44:38 PM

Title: 2000 50c Coins
Post by: Goldseeker on February 17, 2014, 09:44:38 PM
I have just purchased a brand new, so called up to date DANSCO Supreme Album at some cost.

Transferring the coins from my old this new album I think I have found an error.  

DANSCO has pre printed the year, mintage and titles of the commemoratives on each page.  

On the third page, they have printed 2000 - 16,xxx,xxx and then two holes/spaces later they have printed 2000 - Millenium.   In between these two holes they have the Royal Visit coin.   Thus, according to DANSCO, we had three 2000 50c coins minted.

Can someone please tell me what the third one is as according to Greg MacDonald's catalogue, only two 50c coins were issued.

Please advise.
Title: RE: 2000 50c Coins
Post by: Unicorn on February 17, 2014, 09:49:03 PM
Maybe the incused Goldie?
Title: RE: 2000 50c Coins
Post by: Fordprefect on February 17, 2014, 09:49:18 PM
Maybe space for the Incuse Millenium ?
Title: RE: 2000 50c Coins
Post by: ADMISLSE on February 18, 2014, 09:51:58 AM
I think it is for Incuse Millennium
Title: RE: 2000 50c Coins
Post by: Goldseeker on February 18, 2014, 12:26:59 PM
OK, if that is the case, has anyone got an UNC Incuse Millenium for sale please?

Thanks for your responses.
Title: RE: 2000 50c Coins
Post by: stevo1962 on February 18, 2014, 12:53:18 PM
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='42078' dateline='1392688619'OK, if that is the case, has anyone got an UNC Incuse Millenium for sale please?

Thanks for your responses.

Yeah I wouldn't mind one as well if you end up with too many
Title: RE: 2000 50c Coins
Post by: Steveqld on February 18, 2014, 05:09:11 PM
It wouldn't be for the different obverse on the Royal Visit coin would it?
Title: RE: 2000 50c Coins
Post by: Goldseeker on February 18, 2014, 07:26:39 PM
Two obverses, please enlighten me.
Title: RE: 2000 50c Coins
Post by: notcb on February 18, 2014, 08:00:07 PM
Goldie,

Could it be for the coloured Millenium coin issued with the proof set for 2000?

As distinct from the standard Millenium coin issued with the mint set and normal circulation coins.

Cheers

Peter  (notcb)
Title: RE: 2000 50c Coins
Post by: Fulvio on February 18, 2014, 09:26:01 PM
Quote from: 'notcb' pid='42120' dateline='1392715807'Could it be for the coloured Millenium coin issued with the proof set for 2000?

More likely than a variety.

Two obverses?????? Huh?
Title: RE: 2000 50c Coins
Post by: Nevol on February 18, 2014, 10:01:12 PM
The Obv that was used for the 2000 Royal Visit 50c is quite noticeably different to all the other Obverses used so far.  The 2000 RV 50c is the only circulation Aussie coin that has had that particular Obv on it.  I think it may have been used on some Canadian coins though.
Title: RE: 2000 50c Coins
Post by: Fulvio on February 18, 2014, 10:06:25 PM
Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='42135' dateline='1392723072'The Obv that was used for the 2000 Royal Visit 50c is quite noticeably different to all the other Obverses used so far.  The 2000 RV 50c is the only circulation Aussie coin that has had that particular Obv on it.  I think it may have been used on some Canadian coins though.

Well, yeah, it was supplied by the Royal Mint. But they're all the same AFAIK.. Where's this second Obverse?
Title: RE: 2000 50c Coins
Post by: Goldseeker on February 18, 2014, 10:17:37 PM
If the hole is for a Millenium Variety then why wasn't a hole left for the pointy and blunt issue in 2004?

Further, why haven't there been more marked holes for other variety 50c pieces.
Title: RE: 2000 50c Coins
Post by: interest on February 18, 2014, 10:42:31 PM
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='42026' dateline='1392635678'I have just purchased a brand new, so called up to date DANSCO Supreme Album at some cost.

Transferring the coins from my old this new album I think I have found an error.  

DANSCO has pre printed the year, mintage and titles of the commemoratives on each page.  

On the third page, they have printed 2000 - 16,xxx,xxx and then two holes/spaces later they have printed 2000 - Millenium.   In between these two holes they have the Royal Visit coin.   Thus, according to DANSCO, we had three 2000 50c coins minted.

Can someone please tell me what the third one is as according to Greg MacDonald's catalogue, only two 50c coins were issued.

Please advise.
Title: RE: 2000 50c Coins
Post by: Steveqld on February 18, 2014, 11:06:38 PM
Isn't the effigy on the Millennium obverse by Rank-Broadley and the effigy on the obverse of the Royal Visit coin the one by Gottwald.

The Millennium obverse is the same as the other 50 cent coins issued in that period.  I suspect the spare hole is to show the unique obverse for the RV coin.  Otherwise where else would you display it.
Title: RE: 2000 50c Coins
Post by: Fordprefect on February 18, 2014, 11:22:25 PM
:i_agree:
Very logical conclusion, I'm convinced.
Title: RE: 2000 50c Coins
Post by: markn on February 19, 2014, 10:42:27 AM
Quote from: 'Steveqld' pid='42145' dateline='1392726998'Isn't the effigy on the Millennium obverse by Rank-Broadley and the effigy on the obverse of the Royal Visit coin the one by Gottwald.

The Millennium obverse is the same as the other 50 cent coins issued in that period.  I suspect the spare hole is to show the unique obverse for the RV coin.  Otherwise where else would you display it.

I think that's the correct answer.
Title: RE: 2000 50c Coins
Post by: interest on February 19, 2014, 05:10:50 PM
Here you go Goldie the flip side.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb22/interest88/50ss_zps7b71a586.gif)
Title: RE: 2000 50c Coins
Post by: Goldseeker on February 20, 2014, 08:29:05 AM
Um where did you get the 2000 Coat Of Arms from?

Can you please list each of the year 2000 x 50c coins that were issued but please do not include any varieties.?
Title: RE: 2000 50c Coins
Post by: ADMISLSE on February 20, 2014, 10:13:52 AM
http://www.australian-threepence.com/blog/2010/11/the-complete-guide-to-australian-50c-coins.html

this is the best web for your answer
Title: RE: 2000 50c Coins
Post by: Goldseeker on February 20, 2014, 08:53:07 PM
I thankyou for your response ADMISLE but another member has shown three x 2000 50c pieces in scans above.

My question still stands:   What are those three coins please?
Title: RE: 2000 50c Coins
Post by: runway on February 20, 2014, 10:18:28 PM
Haven't ever heard of a 2000 COA 50c
Title: RE: 2000 50c Coins
Post by: Goldseeker on February 21, 2014, 06:05:17 PM
Quote from: 'runway' pid='42299' dateline='1392896908'Haven't ever heard of a 2000 COA 50c

Nope.   Never heard of it.   According to Greg Mac's catalogue and all info that I have found, the only 2000 50c pieces issued were the Royal Visit and the Millenium coin.

I have checked with several coin dealers, and they no of no Coat Of Arms coin issued for this year.

If you have one I would be very interested in seeing it.
Title: RE: 2000 50c Coins
Post by: Fulvio on February 21, 2014, 06:12:36 PM
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='42355' dateline='1392968117'If you have one I would be very interested in seeing it.

Drat! Went back to look more closely at the piccies...

ALL GONE! :(
Title: RE: 2000 50c Coins
Post by: Unicorn on February 21, 2014, 06:21:27 PM
Couldn't say for certain, but I think the COA one pictured was a 2006.
Title: RE: 2000 50c Coins
Post by: Goldseeker on February 21, 2014, 11:48:46 PM
So there does appear to be spare/incorrect space as first asked by me?
Title: RE: 2000 50c Coins
Post by: Unicorn on February 22, 2014, 12:07:14 AM
Yes Goldie, I believe so. From memory of Interest's photos they had 2 holes for the 2000 Millennium.

The first next to the 1999 and showing the mintage of 16m odd. Then came the Royal Visit space then the second space for the Millennium with no mintage figure.
Title: RE: 2000 50c Coins
Post by: Goldseeker on February 22, 2014, 01:55:07 PM
At long last a straight answer to a straight question.

Many thanks Unicorn.

Now I can go back to DANSCO and inform them of their error.
Title: RE: 2000 50c Coins
Post by: Steveqld on February 22, 2014, 05:50:33 PM
They may already be aware of it but just haven't fixed it.  I suspect this is the album you have:

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10124/Dansco.JPG)

Those pre-labeled pages only go up to 2003.

The more recent Deluxe Album which has pre-labeled pages up to 2012 shows the correct labeling and includes the RV obverse.

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10124/Dansco_Deluxe_to_2012.JPG)

Given DANSCO is a US company they probably couldn't be bothered correcting and reprinting the earlier album.
Title: RE: 2000 50c Coins
Post by: Unicorn on February 22, 2014, 06:10:23 PM
Steve, yes the first pic is the same as the one that was posted earlier.

The more recent one looks a lot better!

So it would appear that they really meant to put two spaces in the first one for the 2000 RV (Obverse and Reverse), rather than two for the Millennium.

So glad you posted that as it really clears it up.
Title: RE: 2000 50c Coins
Post by: Fulvio on February 22, 2014, 07:59:04 PM
Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='42451' dateline='1393054823'So glad you posted that as it really clears it up.

:agreed: Good work! :)
Title: RE: 2000 50c Coins
Post by: Goldseeker on February 22, 2014, 08:28:24 PM
Many thanks Steveqld, that is the precise album I have.

Now to get onto my supplier to have the most up to date album supplied instead of an out of date album.

Many thanks.

Steveqld:-   You have a PM.
Title: RE: 2000 50c Coins
Post by: Steveqld on February 24, 2014, 08:37:58 AM
One of the forum members asked me to send off a copy of the image I posted of the newer album.

When pulling it off the net I notice that Dansco doesn't have a single album for our 50 cent or $1 coins anymore.  There were so many that both are now 2 album series.  The 50 cent are 1966 to 2005 and 2005-2012.  The Dollar is 1984 to 2012 and "since 2012".
Title: RE: 2000 50c Coins
Post by: trout on February 24, 2014, 08:55:24 AM
Quote from: 'Steveqld' pid='42570' dateline='1393193278'One of the forum members asked me to send off a copy of the image I posted of the newer album.

When pulling it off the net I notice that Dansco doesn't have a single album for our 50 cent or $1 coins anymore.  There were so many that both are now 2 album series.  The 50 cent are 1966 to 2005 and 2005-2012.  The Dollar is 1984 to 2012 and "since 2012".

I ruined quite a few coins in those Dansco push in type albums and wont use them ever again.
PPH has albums for 2x2 or saflips that can accommodate up to 300 coins in each album, NO restrictions on which coin can be added to the album as well :good:
You can also see both sides of the coins and there is NO danger of the coins getting damaged either.
As the PPH albums don't cost an arm and a leg they are by FAR a better option as far as I am concerned :yahoo: