I've been having a wander through the ACR and CAB magazine index for any mention of the 1943m threepence hub doubling (http://www.australian-coins.net/showthread.php?tid=2242) and haven't managed to find anything. Nor in Ian McConnelly's varieties book. There's a book we don't have in our coin library the one mentioned in the title by John Dean. Does anyone have one and is it a useful reference?
It should be any pre-decimal variety collector's first mission to obtain it. Available in hardcover and soft cover.
The info inside is not comprehensive but gives an excellent starting point.
The 1943m 3d "Hub Doubling" does not get a mention.
Thanks Fordy, that's exactly what I wanted to know. I will be looking out for a copy to add to the library. I googled and AFS may have one but the price tag is $135, seems a lot???
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='42006' dateline='1392628320'Thanks Fordy, that's exactly what I wanted to know. I will be looking out for a copy to add to the library. I googled and AFS may have one but the price tag is $135, seems a lot???
Ouch, it's worth having but not at that price.:idea:
I have a feeling Robbie's Carl picked one of the Bay not long ago.
$20-$30 might be about what it is worth.
Mine cost 12/6d:angel:
I have a copy of the hubby's original soft cover book of Dean's book
I won't dig it out if Fordie has already had a look in his edition
Thanks Robbie. I might have a read of it when I visit if I haven't happened upon a copy in the meantime.
I just checked my Lever - no mention
and my old rennicks varieties has the 43 m halfpenny hub doubling 'heavy doubling D:IMP & Georgivs & HP' listed but none for the 3p
Dad bought a variety book, but haven't picked it up to have a look thru yet, it looks old and had a threepence on the front, he knows I like threepences and picked it up for a few bucks, it is really old and used, guess what I will be doing today..
had a look only mentions die cracks, and blobs as far as I could see, and the 2 overdates. pictures and words are brief and wording is not great to negotiate in the book
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10011/book.JPG)
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='42001' dateline='1392627032'1943m threepence hub doubling (http://www.australian-coins.net/showthread.php?tid=2242)
Just had a look in my PDF of Mostyn Arthur Byrnes' predecimal varieties book, but though there's heaps of copper, this is not included in the single page of 3d varieties.
At 72mb, its a bit big, so here is a PDF of page 103 (http://fulvio.jovianprojects.com.au/coins/forum/3dVarietiesP103.pdf) showing all the 3d.
(http://fulvio.jovianprojects.com.au/coins/forum/3dVarietiesP103.jpg)
Well what do you know now that someone posted a picture of what the book looks like then I open up the library just now (looking for something else) and the book is staring at me!! Whoo hooo!!!!!!! Don't I feel silly..
so you have Dean's book PP?
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='42125' dateline='1392720729'so you have Dean's book PP?
Yes, had it all along.(insert embarrassed smiley here)
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='42080' dateline='1392690654'Just had a look in my PDF of Mostyn Arthur Byrnes' predecimal varieties book
What book is that?
Quote from: 'Mister T' pid='42427' dateline='1393037280'What book is that?
(http://fulvio.jovianprojects.com.au/coins/forum/au-variety-entire-book-compressed.jpg)
I have never seen that book Fulvio
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='42482' dateline='1393120723'I have never seen that book Fulvio
You're welcome to it if you wish. Send me a memory stick or card, or try searching for it online. I've had it forever, so can't recall how I came by it. Its about 80Mb or so.
happy to send you a flash drive, thanks!
too large to e-mail?
(sorry computer idiot here)
hang on - think I found a pdf internet version
'coin community forum''
hang on - think I found a pdf internet version
'coin community forum''
thakns fulvio
I just managed to download the entire book - 144 pages
i'll have to have a read now!
http://www.coincommunity.org/book/au-variety-entire-book-compressed.pdf for anyone looking.
yes- ta - I think that is the link that I used
from this page
I just downloaded it. I thought I had a digital copy but when I checked it seemed corrupt. So hard to read in pdf I'd much rather sit down and read it in print.
Is there an online version of Dean? I'm not a fan of the book by Mos and I only have photocopies of parts of Dean (after 50 years it is still the best).
Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='42559' dateline='1393152895'Is there an online version of Dean? I'm not a fan of the book by Mos and I only have photocopies of parts of Dean (after 50 years it is still the best).
Not Dean. The online book is Mostyn Byrnes.
Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='42559' dateline='1393152895'Is there an online version of Dean?
Twist someone's arm to scan theirs for you. ;)
I wonder if the copyright holder has given permission for the works to be copied. I thought in Moyston Byrnes' case his son as copyright holder authorized the copying (Wasn't that on this or a previous forum?)
PPH mentioned AFS have the original for $135 but they also advertise photocopies for $35. Be interesting to know if there is a broad authority or a specific one for them.
I understand copyright in Australia applies for 70 years after the authors death so there would be a long time to go yet.
Quote from: 'Steveqld' pid='42576' dateline='1393197573'I thought in Moyston Byrnes' case his son as copyright holder authorized the copying (Wasn't that on this or a previous forum?)
Yep, that's correct. I liased with the son, John Byrnes, and got his permission while Xshift at CCF made a heap of DVD's (I still have some) and sent them over here for distribution, a couple to Mos's son and some to interested forum members.
Deans' book is still under copyright (His Estate is Trustee).
National Library will allow the purchase of a Single Chapter
for "Educational" purposes.
Will cost you an arm and leg and not of high quality.
Quote from: 'Fordprefect' pid='42582' dateline='1393211128'Deans' book is still under copyright (His Estate is Trustee).
Copyright laws drafted in a bygone era are soooo wrong-headed in this day and age of oceans of publications! As if this work will ever see the light of day, and the heirs get another penny out of it.
Bugger that. Hoist the Jolly Roger, me hearties! Set sail on the good ships
Research and
Education!