There is talk of raising the letter mailing rate to 70c but I think that idea has been going around for a while with no confirmation as yet. And didn't a member here mention an AP survey about deliveries.
Some of todays news here (http://finance.ninemsn.com.au/newsbusiness/aap/8786766/future-of-daily-mail-questioned).
Yep, AC's post #98 in this thread:
http://www.australian-coins.net/showthread.php?tid=809&pid=39310#pid39310
I don't get "home deliveries" and I have a round trip of 20Ks every time I pick my mail up so this initiative wont affect me in the least :angel:
I already pay sufficient postage for a snail mail delivery and I will not be paying any more for a daily delivery or to have my mail delivered only three days a week. I already average two or three deliveries a week now without asking for it.
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='40128' dateline='1390252892'There is talk of raising the letter mailing rate to 70c but I think that idea has been going around for a while with no confirmation as yet. And didn't a member here mention an AP survey about deliveries.
Some of todays news here (http://finance.ninemsn.com.au/newsbusiness/aap/8786766/future-of-daily-mail-questioned).
That could be me, I do a daily report on mail received.
Will send off an email & see if there's anything I can find out.
Just received this from my contact.
"Hi Rob,
At this stage we can't confirm any changes as there has been no communication from Auspost to suggest the change will be happening.
Sorry I could not help further."
That's good news because no one wants any more increase in mailing costs.
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='40153' dateline='1390273522'That's good news because no one wants any more increase in mailing costs.
Get used to the idea. Our multi-purpose-idiot PM wants to flog off Australia Post, and they're looking at any possible way to sweeten the deal. Charging more for less is typical of all privatisations. As with all the sales of public assets before it, we're the ones who get screwed, for short-term political gains.
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='40159' dateline='1390284070'Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='40153' dateline='1390273522'That's good news because no one wants any more increase in mailing costs.
Get used to the idea. Our multi-purpose-idiot PM wants to flog off Australia Post, and they're looking at any possible way to sweeten the deal. Charging more for less is typical of all privatisations. As with all the sales of public assets before it, we're the ones who get screwed, for short-term political gains.
If Aussie Post goes Private be prepared to pay at least $1.50 to send a letter 100m down the road :dash1:
our LPO said last year that regular post will go up this year
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='40159' dateline='1390284070'Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='40153' dateline='1390273522'That's good news because no one wants any more increase in mailing costs.
Get used to the idea. Our multi-purpose-idiot PM wants to flog off Australia Post, and they're looking at any possible way to sweeten the deal. Charging more for less is typical of all privatisations. As with all the sales of public assets before it, we're the ones who get screwed, for short-term political gains.
Fulvio let's leave politics to another forum thank you
Here's the latest AP wants stamp rise (http://finance.ninemsn.com.au/newsbusiness/aap/8791383/australia-post-wants-stamps-to-rise-to-70c).
I cannot remember the last time I actually wrote a letter and posted it via snail mail.
100% of my correspondence is via email or SMS.
Any rise however WILL affect postage on parcels and that will have an effect on me :dodgy:
QuoteHowever, it's also proposing to introduce a concession rate stamp for anyone with a commonwealth government concession card to continue to have access to 60 cent postage for standard letters until 2017.
And how will they tell, if sender has a concession card, when a stamped letter is posted in a public mailing box?
QuoteThis 10 cent increase will allow us to partially offset the growing losses that we are seeing in our letters business.
At 70 cents the Australian domestic stamp will remain among one of the lowest prices in the OECD.
If that represents the mathematical ability of Australia Post then, no wonder, they can't make ends meet.
Fact is, even though letter post may have not been profitable, AP made $M312 profit in 2012/2013. Government attitude has always been that letter "service" can be subsidised by other services and rate is set by Government (political considerations here).
Annual Report 2013 (http://auspost.com.au/about-us/annual-report-results-2013.html)
I am not sure why an essential service needs to be profitable anyway? I'd much rather the government pumped money into money-losing essential services rather than wasting it on industrial welfare by handing it out to corporates.
Quote from: 'trout' pid='40669' dateline='1391045482'I cannot remember the last time I actually wrote a letter and posted it via snail mail.
100% of my correspondence is via email or SMS.
Any rise however WILL affect postage on parcels and that will have an effect on me :dodgy:
I send the majority of coins at the $1.20 post rate and accessories at multiple of this.. This will affect me.
Yeah Jeff how will they police this concession rate?
Quote from: 'markn' pid='40671' dateline='1391046845'I am not sure why an essential service needs to be profitable anyway? I'd much rather the government pumped money into money-losing essential services rather than wasting it on industrial welfare by handing it out to corporates.
Yeah, but you aren't pulling their strings. The corporates are, and they do what's in their best interests, not yours.
I heard that seniors and pensioners will still be able to send mail at 60 cents until 2017.
Don't know if it is true or not.
I heard the same Humpybong. On the news this evening.
10c increase for a letter is realistically no big deal for most people
Standard letter rate price increase, to 70¢, has been approved and will apply from 31st March. Pricing updates (http://auspost.com.au/parcels-mail/pricing-updates.html)
QuoteConcession rate stamps will be available to any individual who has a Commonwealth Government concession card. Eligible customers will be required to register for an Australia Post concession card - details on the registration process will follow completion of the ACCC notification process. It's estimated that approximately 5.7 million Australians will be able to access concession rate stamps.
The new concession rate is 60¢. It will be interesting to see what the procedures will be to minimise rorting.
thanks Jeff
At least we sort of saw it coming. Thanks Jeff for confirming.
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='42387' dateline='1393006001'It will be interesting to see what the procedures will be to minimise rorting.
You mean to maximise rorting.. by them. :diablo:
Concession is available to Commonwealth concession card holders who must register with Australia Post for an AP card.
I presume concession will only be available to concession holders posting a letter over the counter in person.
Another reason for Licensed Post Office franchisees to get upset. They will wear the time to check concession posting. Already they don't get paid for handling mail you post so, if you buy stamps elsewhere for your posting then the LPO you post at gets zilch for your posting. And, now AP is selling prepaid postage on-line and with a discount for eBay sellers. So AP is undercutting their own agents; not a good business model ( care for franchisees should be up there with caring for your customers for the long term good of your business).
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='42406' dateline='1393022579'register with Australia Post for an AP card.
Why am I thinking of
Yes, Minister? Bureaucracy gone mad.
Oh well, I won't be posting anything, with or without concession, so it won't really affect me. Or, I'd think, 90% of the population. Now we just need a viable alternative for parcels.
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='42406' dateline='1393022579'Concession is available to Commonwealth concession card holders who must register with Australia Post for an AP card.
I presume concession will only be available to concession holders posting a letter over the counter in person.
Another reason for Licensed Post Office franchisees to get upset. They will wear the time to check concession posting. Already they don't get paid for handling mail you post so, if you buy stamps elsewhere for your posting then the LPO you post at gets zilch for your posting. And, now AP is selling prepaid postage on-line and with a discount for eBay sellers. So AP is undercutting their own agents; not a good business model ( care for franchisees should be up there with caring for your customers for the long term good of your business).
It is very hard for me to get the local post office to scan in registered letters for exactly that reason.
looks like most of our Christmas cards wishes will be sent by emails
or phone calls this Christmas coming up soon ..
,, kel ,,
Special price for Christmas cards -only 65¢! ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ Censored comment.
My PO owner HATES me for exactly that reason. I rarely spend any money with her and use a lot of their time lodging only. I even go elsewhere to make bulk purchases ie. labels as they are particularly useless at getting orders in and are fantastic at making excuses. They made a rod for their own back being like that.
Quote from: 'keldaw' pid='42418' dateline='1393026963'looks like most of our Christmas cards wishes will be sent by emails
The
only way to fly...
Plus, you can script it so it all happens automagically. Just add names to the
nice list throughout the year, sit back, and relax. And spend the savings on coins of course. :)
And you can do something suitable for the
naughty list as well if you like. :diablo:
QuoteMy PO owner HATES me for exactly that reason.
Same here. Local LPO operator actually upbraided me at the counter one day for not buying my postage there but just lodging mail there. Told me to go to PO in next town (30km away) to lodge my mail at the official Australia Post outlet. I was speechless.
Contacted AP and complained and he was reminded of his contractual obligations by the area manager.
New operators recently and, for a while, were telling customers they were going to refuse to lodge eBay satchels! They have gone quite on that now (after another customer complained up the line).
Of course, the franchise agreement is biased in favour of Australia Post but that should not be my problem.
Just a reminder -new rates commence next week Price changes - effective 31 March 2014 (http://auspost.com.au/parcels-mail/pricing-updates.html)
All the publicity has been about the basic letter rate going to 70¢. Have a look at the new parcel rates. Well above the rate of inflation since last increase less than 12 months ago! For example a small parcel (less than 500g) goes to $7.20 from $5.80 ( a little more than 24% increase).
Ooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh who would have guessed new parcel rates too. They are #&*@%^!*&.
UBBELIEVABLE
Aussi post does rather well already with its parcel post business and now they want to add 24% to that profit :dodgy:
I wonder if this is a prelude to privatisation :angel:
Gee this all makes me very sad as it's the little people that get hurt as I like to send stuff to friend but it's getting beyond a joke now :( Surely we could support a new PO service as the yanks have two that I know of and maybe more!
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='44025' dateline='1395032861'Surely we could support a new PO service as the yanks have two that I know of and maybe more!
We could, but people are intrinsically lazy and/or stupid, and will default to the old ways until the new ways grab them by the throat and themselves become the old ways.
Being horrified by the new PO Box rent
(much more than the usual annual increase), I'm trying to decide now whether to ditch it before it must be renewed. A viable alternative is required, as I don't really want to use a street address.
Hmm, I just paid my box rental. I didn't notice it was anything more than last year.
edit: ok, $99 to $107.:dodgy:
I still think mail is fairly cheap, its my electricity bill I just received that is ridiculous, when we should be one of the cheapest in the world.
:@
:( just thinkin about all those stamps I got off you PP and how much trouble you went to to get the 60 cents but now I'll have to add either 1 or 2 more stamps to make the 70 cents, the bastards didn't think about you or me now did they :dodgy:
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='44091' dateline='1395082424':( just thinkin about all those stamps I got off you PP and how much trouble you went to to get the 60 cents but now I'll have to add either 1 or 2 more stamps to make the 70 cents, the bastards didn't think about you or me now did they :dodgy:
Yeah, the postage rates are all in my head now, they change and I have to learn them over. Let me know if you need some smaller "top-up" stamps.
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='44094' dateline='1395088034'Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='44091' dateline='1395082424':( just thinkin about all those stamps I got off you PP and how much trouble you went to to get the 60 cents but now I'll have to add either 1 or 2 more stamps to make the 70 cents, the bastards didn't think about you or me now did they :dodgy:
Yeah, the postage rates are all in my head now, they change and I have to learn them over. Let me know if you need some smaller "top-up" stamps.
Yeah I know how you feel AJ ,now we'll have to cover half the envelopes to make up the 70 cents
Excellent, will do and thank you very much PP :good:
Yep so this is the sort of thing they can expect :( and they half cover the back as well..love it :)
(http://i58.tinypic.com/15qrlgj.jpg)
DAMN!!! Ive just done a box of 100 padded envelopes with $1.20 on them. Will have to go back and put another 20c on all of them.
Quote from: 'enworb' pid='44150' dateline='1395188702'DAMN!!! Ive just done a box of 100 padded envelopes with $1.20 on them. Will have to go back and put another 20c on all of them.
Not if you mail them BEFORE March 31st.
Quote from: 'Goose' pid='44151' dateline='1395189063'Not if you mail them BEFORE March 31st.
Get those Xmas gifts away
NOW and save a massive twenty bucks! :angel:
Ah crud... today is the cutoff for the massive $5 discount on PO Box renewals... best I go for a walk and cough up my $107, eh?
I was going to ditch it, but that's the trouble with procrastination... I never got my round tuit, so I get to overpay for another year. :(
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='45367' dateline='1396225708'Ah crud... today is the cutoff for the massive $5 discount on PO Box renewals... best I go for a walk and cough up my $107, eh?
I was going to ditch it, but that's the trouble with procrastination... I never got my round tuit, so I get to overpay for another year. :(
Yeah I had a PO box a few years ago and ditched it when it went over
$50 because I thought it was too much so it didnt take long to double in price after that.Just like insurance prices lots of things are spiraling out of control.I feel sorry for my kids.
Just got back from the post office, This is BS
All the parcels were the smallest padded envelopes that normally go as large letters.
My cost per item sent before was about $4.20, NOW it works out to $11.75 :dash1:
Here is my recipt
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10019/post_office.png)
That is not correct.
Why did they charge you so much?
Ouch ouch ouch Trout!
I'm assuming they were slabs?
With the padded envelope did they exceed 20mm thick (as that's the maximum thickness for a large letter, but I guess you know that eh)?
A slab inside a padded bag is thinner than 20mm.
Question 87 ...... I thought that there was only Signature on Delivery options for parcels now?
It looks like you've paid for registered, which I thought was only for letters?
I'm likely wrong, but that's how I thought it worked now.
Looks like they charged you again for registered postage.Did you
put your own registered stickers on them?I've had them try that
trick on me before
Quote from: 'emu666' pid='45379' dateline='1396234208'A slab inside a padded bag is thinner than 20mm.
Thanks Feathers .... I only have the one slab and I've never measured it in a padded envelope before.
You are correct, unicorn.
The signature on delivery labels for parcels are completely different to signature on delivery labels for express post and also registered labels for letters (including large letters).
Quote from: 'emu666' pid='45383' dateline='1396234544'You are correct, unicorn.
The signature on delivery labels for parcels are completely different to signature on delivery labels for express post and also registered labels for letters (including large letters).
I defiantly got screwed over the charges according to the NEW postal charges book 31/3/14 are as follows ;
Registered post sticker $3.50
Large letter 180x260x20 <126g $1.40
padded envelope $1.05
Total cost $5.95
Not Bloody $11.75
I will be talking to the Manager when I get back from this Job :close_tema:
They've charged you for a parcel rather than a large letter.
Best way to took after costs is to turn up at the post office with stamps the large letter and a registered label already attached so that you are not paying any money at the time of lodgement. This usually removes the temptation for the post office staff to overcharge you.
(You can buy padded bags and registered labels in bulk so you'll save some money this way too).
Also see Trouts receipt has article ID's for the parcels which are given on printing the label, but the reg labels have different numbers, so what numbers are being tracked/lodged?
You've been ripped off more than $5 per item mate.
hi jim ,
I have sent my items to you today ,
ok , I buy the large padded bags were $ 1.20 ea
but if I buy by the 100 ,I get them for .45 cents ea
so it was my bag . now post $ 1.40 for postage
plus $ 3.50 for registered mail
total $ 4.90 from me to you with tracking number .
so total to you should be that $ 4.90 plus the padded bag if you just buy them singlely .
providing they are under 125 grams and less then 20 mm wide .
if you buy the padded bags by the 100 , just go to the back of them and scribble over the bar code before you present it to the counter for posting , some of the girls working in the post office will ask you if it your bag , but some will just charge you for it , but they cant do that if you scribble over the bar code ..
,, kel ,,
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='44010' dateline='1395027264'Ooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh who would have guessed new parcel rates too. They are #&*@%^!*&.
sorry pph , but I don't understand your last line . #&*@%^!*&
are you from china or some where near japan ?? ,, kel ,,
Just keep the receipt for the bulk purchase of the Padded Bag in your wallet and show the girls at the post Office that the bags were previously bought.
I do that and have no trouble at all.
Just noticed AP has changed the on-line postage calculator. Postage calculator (http://auspost.com.au/apps/postage-calculator.html)
Last time they did that they made it less user friendly. Guess what? Yes you got it -too many (usually unwanted) choices getting into it which means even more clicking "next" links.
What galls me is they probably paid a large sum to a consultant to do that.
Also, it doesn't display properly in Firefox; tried IE and it doesn't work there at all (no worry, I don't use IE and this brief look was enough to confirm why).
Also, it is very buggy and requires going back and starting again often.
Good one Australia Post.
[Of course my computer might just have decided that it doesn't like AP, coincidentally just when this change was made -but, I doubt it.]
Try it and report your experience.
Thanks,
Jeff
Gee I'm not even game to look Jeff as I was and am still super peeved at the so called tracking that was a hell of a lot better than the "new and improved" system. I thought the word improve meant to make it better but these turds are going backward at an extreme amount of knots, very sad and not only the consultants but upper management for approving but it's all about stuffing everything up and say it better just to keep their jobs, this is happening everywhere..and it's all to make life easier for us..yeah right :(
been there, love it but I don't send teddies, I send coins so why not a coin app?
Goldy, Goldy, didn't you see the "bottle of wine" option. You have my address so I will be waiting, waiting, waiting...
Doesn't look particularly nasty or unuseable, just my favourite....different. Not better, probably worse, but right now just different. Now how can I send multiple soft teddies ?
That's it, you can't mix your teddies with your wine!!!
So who decided that these generic examples were useful?
now now PP, teddies and wine should be for Mark only shouldn't they :)
Wine, booze button, me no drinkie da booze/wine. I have several bottles of UNOPENED Baileys and a couple of bottles of scotch here that we got on our cruises of years past. Still untouched.
If you ever call in at my house there is no beer in the fridge or a beer fridge. Never acquired a taste for the stuff.
Me coffee only and a fair amount of goffers. (Soft drinks for you non military types).
Whoooo hoooo more AP rate changes (http://auspost.com.au/about-us/price-changes-6-oct-2014.html).
:dodgy: ..... hmmmm ...... two words .....
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11067/bail_up.jpg)
Bail Up!!
All the changes I looked at seemed to be increases! Why am I not surprised?
One that interests me most is registered -single sticker up from $3.50 to $3.70 and box of 50 stickers from $147.50 to $155.00. When prices were increased in April last year these went up to $3.20 and $135.00 -that is substantially in excess of general inflation rate.
Obviously they are trying to grab what they can because the Government pegs the basic letter prices but not the extras.
Pity they didn't have current and new prices in the document. That would have stirred up the natives.
It's another sneaky rise. Just some things and not all that much. Still enough to add up when they do it multiple times per year.