I found this question on CCF and I think it is a quite a valid and interesting question :ok:
Hi, Should I remove any $1 coins that are in the sleeves (like what you get from the visitors press) and put them in 2x2's?
I had a look at some of the older ones I got when I was a kid and they are toning, would this be reduced in 2x2's?
Thanks.
I answered it with this reply, Some of you may disagree But it was my Honest answer :ok:
Yes, I do it immediately I receive the coin to stop the tarnish happening.
On the other hand there are "Purists" out there that insist that the coin remains in the sleeve and bugger the coin regardless of the fact that it is detrimental to the coin.
You have to know that if you keep the coin in the mint packaging "Short time" it will have a resale value above a well preserved coin in a 2x2.
On the other hand 20 years down the track when all these coins kept in inferior conditions are ruined, I imagine that the smart cookies that decided to preserve their coins for posterity will be the winners in the end game
Each to their own and this is simply my take on this
Interesting question indeed. But there are other options.
The tarnishing is environmental, not a reaction with the packaging. So you could seal the whole thing in an LDPE or PP bag, and have your cake and eat it too.
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='38940' dateline='1388827306'Interesting question indeed. But there are other options.
The tarnishing is environmental, not a reaction with the packaging. So you could seal the whole thing in an LDPE or PP bag, and have your cake and eat it too.
Try that with the 2005 50 cent COA coin that comes in the oversized envelope :)
Cmon you blokes this fascination with mint packaging is getting bloody ridicules, Remember the Kangaroo and the map 50 cent with the green stamp, these were selling for stupid amounts of money simply because they were in a particular envelope.
ALL these issues of coins are identical for Gods sake.
Every day the colour changed on the stamp but it was the same coin enclosed.
Make your mind up you blokes , do you collect coins or the devious wrappers the Mint puts them in.
Time to "Get Real" you blokes:angel:
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='38940' dateline='1388827306'Interesting question indeed. But there are other options.
The tarnishing is environmental, not a reaction with the packaging. So you could seal the whole thing in an LDPE or PP bag, and have your cake and eat it too.
How do you know that?
Quote from: 'markn' pid='38944' dateline='1388828628'Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='38940' dateline='1388827306'Interesting question indeed. But there are other options.
The tarnishing is environmental, not a reaction with the packaging. So you could seal the whole thing in an LDPE or PP bag, and have your cake and eat it too.
How do you know that?
You could put the 1984-85 mint sets in a vacuum in space and the bloody PVC would still destroy the coins :angel:
Quote from: 'trout' pid='38945' dateline='1388828954'You could put the 1984-85 mint sets in a vacuum in space and the bloody PVC would still destroy the coins :angel:
:agreed: That's a chemical reaction with the PVC. Doesn't apply to the Mylar/cardboard cards they use for MYO's. They're effectively unsealed 2x2's.
QuoteThey're effectively unsealed 2x2's.
You know this , I know this But many new collectors don't know this.
Lets face it most of the Mint packaging is pure Crap, they are and have been for a while selling their product mainly due to the packaging without regard to the actual product.
As an example some idiot kid and his family camped out for nearly a week outside the Canberra mint to get a 2014 coin that would presumably be available in circulation anyway, Just because it was housed (probably before the event) in a flash "First coin of the year" display it was instantly worth two grand.
What BS at the end of the day in 50-100 years they wont give a damn about the first coin minted as long as it is good nick like we do today :)
Like I said before time to get real you mob and concentrate on the coins instead of the "Grannybait" packaging :angel:
I leave everything as issued except for the coins I remove from original packaging to DANSCO Supreme Albums. So far after 12 years in the albums, only minor discolouration is visible.
I know I am going to receive adverse comments re this so don't bother as this question has already been dealt with in other areas of this forum as well as other forms of sealing, packaging etc.
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='38952' dateline='1388834295'I leave everything as issued except for the coins I remove from original packaging to DANSCO Supreme Albums. So far after 12 years in the albums, only minor discolouration is visible.
I know I am going to receive adverse comments re this so don't bother as this question has already been dealt with in other areas of this forum as well as other forms of sealing, packaging etc.
NO worries Mate, they are YOUR coins and you can do what you wish with them :ok:
Quote from: 'trout' pid='38954' dateline='1388834548'NO worries Mate, they are YOUR coins and you can do what you wish with them :ok:
Absolutely. Its not about pushing people into a particular way of doing things. Rather its about educating people of the perils which only become obvious once the damage is done.
Remember there was a time when PVC was considered the best thing since sliced bread. Now we know better, but there are still shonky vendors pushing it
(I took issue with one manufacturer just the other day in fact), and ignorant people using it. By the time they realise, the damage will be well and truly done.
As to the DANSCO albums, they're only slightly better than the mint folders, as they're not airtight. I'd be storing them in big Ziplock bags if they were mine. Worth the 20 seconds of extra time to get them out of the bag when you want to look at them, and if the roof ever leaks, you'll be glad you did it.
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='38952' dateline='1388834295'I leave everything as issued except for the coins I remove from original packaging to DANSCO Supreme Albums. So far after 12 years in the albums, only minor discolouration is visible.
I know I am going to receive adverse comments re this so don't bother as this question has already been dealt with in other areas of this forum as well as other forms of sealing, packaging etc.
I must admit I do exactly the same thing.
Plus I have a lot of coins in 2x2s as well.
Sap wrote on CCF
QuoteAll British coins were still legal tender in Australia, including halfcrowns, up to 1921
So does that mean that all Brit coinage prior to 1922 can be considered as "Colonial" coins?