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Non Numismatic Discussion => Chin Wag => Topic started by: ausjack on December 21, 2013, 09:38:12 PM

Title: Facebook
Post by: ausjack on December 21, 2013, 09:38:12 PM
:dodgy: well a good friend asked me so I've been on facebook for a little and to be honest I can't work it out or the point in it, people are really mean and yeah a very depressing site so just wondering if others find/found it the same, thinking about shutting it down as it really is sad and very scary when you start to look around and the things you can find out by accident..I just think it's a bad place and people freak me out asking to be friends when I have no idea who they are or what they want and same as stupid dating sites, man there are some very mean people on some of these sites :( So it's very refreshing to find one like this with some nice people :friends: Even CCF is funny and I don't like it so I was quite happy to give it all up before AC and trout asked me here..to some members that was a bad move but I don't care :P as I'm here for the nice people that I like and that like me :give_heart:
Title: RE: Facebook
Post by: Robster on December 21, 2013, 11:12:02 PM
I am very selective about friending anyone, mainly family and close friends.
I am currently looking at some pics of some friends who are in Cancun Mexico, stuff they did only 10 minutes ago, so I find it cool to see the things they are enjoying.!!
I have another mob heading to Bali next week so it is a bit like travelling overseas without spending the money. lol.
I just make sure to gloss over 90% of the crap and enjoy the other 10%.
 I am on my old High School site (1,300) members, nice to reminisce with old school mates.!!
Title: RE: Facebook
Post by: Fulvio on December 21, 2013, 11:16:13 PM
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='37723' dateline='1387624092'I've been on facebook

Ewwwwww.. FailBook! :(

Mate, its almost all bad news, IMO, and I've had several accounts for many many years now.

The trouble is, its kind of like taxation. You have to pay the FailBook tax because everyone else does, so its expected, and if you refuse, well, things will go badly for you. :mafia:

IMO, there are only two upsides to the entire deal, and both come with gotchas.

- Games. There are more than a few games, some of them quite addictive. Trouble is, they rely on masses of players, so they practically force you to have ten bazillion "friends". I lost count of how many my main account has, but I'm sure I'd need to rent the MCG to park them all in if they ever came to visit. And of course I don't know any of them, because my actual, flesh and blood friends refuse to play games, or they play crap I'm not interested in.

- Credentials. It gets to be a pain to register and log in to ten zillion websites and apps. So much easier to use a FailBook login to turn it into one click. Trouble is, a lot of developers play pretty footloose and fancy-free, and FB's default privacy settings definitely don't help. So you end up with all sorts of unintended consequences.

That's why I have multiple accounts. And I don't actually use ANY of them, except occasionally for specific purposes. And I definitely never ever wade through the millions of stupid baby pics, selfies, pictures of breakfasts and cat crap and so on and so on. So I have one account associated with my iPod, which I use for login credentials, and which has zero friends, real or imaginary. And I have my actual, 'real' account, which has real friends plus 99% imaginary friends, which I occasionally use to message or chat with specific people, or rarely to play a game if I'm in the mood.

I had high hopes for Google+. It did everything FailBook ever could, did it far smarter and cleaner and faster and was sooooooo superior it wasn't even remotely funny. I was logged in 24/7, and communicating meaningfully with friends and strangers on all manner of topics.. and somehow attracted over 6,000 followers who found me interesting and actually interacted with what I had to say. And then... they totally screwed it up. Tried to turn into an FB clone, and now its a slow, laggy piece of crap smothered in bells and whistles and a complete waste of space. I just posted an event for the computer club, and it took me forever, whereas it used to be under a minute in the old days. :(

Somewhere there must be an actual, decent social network out there, but I've yet to find it. Many had hopes for Diaspora, but that seems to have been stillborn. The rest all seem to suffer from the MySpace disease that has infected both FB and G+. If it works, screw it up. :(

Heck, this even applies to other communication media. Back in the day, I used to live on IRC, and it allowed truly awesome interactions. I remember one event we organised in Sydney which drew people from all over the world, and was totally organised on IRC with no fuss whatsoever. Then along came ICQ, and that was cool as well, in a different way. But the world wanted bells and whistles, and Microsoft gave it to them in the form of MSN... fast-forward to this week, and a group we've had running on Skype (also part of Microsoft) has just migrated to Groupme (also, believe it or not, from the same evil empire)... which, coincidentally, doesn't support the same range of devices or features Skype does. But everyone else is jumping off the cliff, so what's a good little Lemming to do but follow the pack, right?

And there, in a nutshell, is the problem. Its people. Mostly dumb, ignorant, incredibly stupid, self-centered idiots with insufficient brainpower to light up a low-wattage bulb.. in other words, your average 'celebrity' (and their followers of course, who are even worse). The LOWEST common denominator sets the standards, and everybody else has to dance to their tune.

Which is why the popular products are popular, in spite of being inferior. Kinda sad, really. :(
Title: RE: Facebook
Post by: triplewitch on December 21, 2013, 11:21:34 PM
FB has worked out well for me since I only accept people I know and their friends.  When I first started out I accepted almost everybody and very quickly found myself surrounded by people who had agendas that I didn't agree with.  They would enroll me in their groups without my consent which was OK until I actually tried to post anything or express an opinion they didn't like.  I got fed up one day and  quickly dropped about 90 people and have been happy with the rest ever since.  Being with your friends and nice people like you and AC makes all the difference in the world.  If I don't post much to you it's because I haven't found common ground outside of coin collecting.  I only mention coin collecting in passing there.
Title: RE: Facebook
Post by: Sapyx on December 21, 2013, 11:25:04 PM
My mum's on facebook, but I'm not. The Internet sucks away enough of my life without it.
Title: RE: Facebook
Post by: Fulvio on December 21, 2013, 11:29:23 PM
Quote from: 'Sapyx' pid='37734' dateline='1387630504'My mum's on facebook

Every mum on the planet is.. and I'm totally convinced they're completely interchangeable. As are all the teenage girls. And the hormone-enriched desperate lads lusting after them. ;)
Title: RE: Facebook
Post by: robbiegal on December 22, 2013, 01:15:07 AM
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Title: RE: Facebook
Post by: Goose on December 22, 2013, 03:22:58 AM
I haven't joined Facebook or Twitter....and won't.  AHhhhh, so peaceful.
Title: RE: Facebook
Post by: Pedro on December 22, 2013, 05:58:44 AM
+1

Pedro
Title: RE: Facebook
Post by: JeffH on December 22, 2013, 06:50:01 AM
I was conned (by the kids) into joining farcebook. What a waste of time and infrastructure capacity!
Finally managed to get my account terminated but it took a while.

My recommendation -DON'T bother.

How much better would our on-line performance be if FB, twitter and such "social" sites were to be eliminated?
Title: RE: Facebook
Post by: trout on December 22, 2013, 07:07:50 AM
I don't do face book I think it is creepy
Title: RE: Facebook
Post by: purplepennyhunter on December 22, 2013, 08:24:01 AM
I am on facebook but I don't really post much. I like a few funny pages and they pop up new and fun things for me to read. I can keep up with what's happening in the family through facebook like realtime pics of my sisters wedding that I missed and my new step nephew that was born last week as well as my Dad who posts up pictures of what he made for dinner and his new bathroom reno (been coming for 30 years I needed to see that).

I don't mind it but I keep it entirely separate to my coin collecting.

The Australian Coin Collecting Blog has it's own facebook page.
The Australian Coin Collecting Blog (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Australian-Coin-Collecting-Blog/186158574739343?ref=hl)
Title: RE: Facebook
Post by: stevo1962 on December 22, 2013, 08:39:49 AM
I'm on it mostly for the plant discussions.There are planets you can join and I have been friending people with the same interests.I've been able to sell quite a few plants to these contacts so it's a case of ignoring all of the crap and finding stuff you are interested in as Robster said
Title: RE: Facebook
Post by: markn on December 22, 2013, 09:10:01 AM
I use it for posting up pictures of our kids and for having a laugh at what George Takei posts.  I also have a business Facebook page which I post to frequently
TimesheetsMTS Software on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/TimesheetsMtsSoftware)

edited to fix broken link by the lovely pph
Title: RE: Facebook
Post by: Fulvio on December 22, 2013, 01:34:30 PM
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='37754' dateline='1387657201'How much better would our on-line performance be if FB, twitter and such "social" sites were to be eliminated?

More to the point would be to ask "How much better would our performance be if people engaged brains before touching a keyboard?"

This has been an issue since the very beginning of the public internet, and probably earlier. People do dumb things and waste bandwidth. Which slows things down for everyone and demands extra infrastructure which adds to costs. We could easily halve the money, power, greenhouse gasses etc if people used their heads.... but they don't.

Many people and companies rely on stupidity for profit. We see it every day on ePay, and Facebook was built on it. If nobody fell for the email scams, we wouldn't have any spam, and there's half of total traffic right there.

People are lazy and stupid. Get used to it. :diablo:
Title: RE: Facebook
Post by: robbiegal on December 23, 2013, 12:55:42 AM
Quote from: 'markn' pid='37775' dateline='1387665601'I use it for posting up pictures of our kids and for having a laugh at what George Takei posts.  I also have a business Facebook page which I post to frequently
TimesheetsMTS Software on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/TimesheetsMtsSoftware)

edited to fix broken link by the lovely pph

YOU TOO!!!
I am constantly having to put up with the Takei humour here as well!! ha ha
Title: RE: Facebook
Post by: Fulvio on December 23, 2013, 01:47:33 AM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='37868' dateline='1387722342'YOU TOO!!!
I am constantly having to put up with the Takei humour here as well!! ha ha

Everybody. He's on G+ as well, y'know... :dodgy:
Title: RE: Facebook
Post by: lacey on December 24, 2013, 06:35:21 PM
Nothing wrong with FB if you keep out of other people's business.  And I've done better selling my extra coins on there, than I did on ebay and QS.  

AJ the reason why everyone wants to be friends with you, is they need neighbours for their games.
Title: RE: Facebook
Post by: Fulvio on December 24, 2013, 10:06:13 PM
Quote from: 'lacey' pid='38020' dateline='1387872321'AJ the reason why everyone wants to be friends with you, is they need neighbours for their games.

Yep.
Title: RE: Facebook
Post by: ausjack on June 19, 2014, 02:07:10 PM
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='37732' dateline='1387629973'
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='37723' dateline='1387624092'I've been on facebook

Ewwwwww.. FailBook! :(



you tell porky pies :dodgy: what do you mean Ewwww as I know you use it and friended others recently but not me and I told you I did :cray: so your in the bad books now cobba :@ and you were gonna message me about a phone call but never did :( so not that I go there much and only been there once in the last week and FA has changed so I'm just about done with fagbook and the hole bloody net as people really aren't what or who they appear to be and it's taken 5 mins for me to get the craps with it again after reading a heap of posts so I don't know what to do, I'm a sad panda :(

Bastards make it hard for me to leave when some do the nicest things :cray:
Title: RE: Facebook
Post by: Fulvio on June 20, 2014, 12:37:34 AM
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='52980' dateline='1403152630'I'm a sad panda :(

Happy now? My ear will never be the same again, BTW. And I really need a comfier chair. ;)
Title: RE: Facebook
Post by: ausjack on June 20, 2014, 01:04:49 AM
:laugh2: yeah tell me about it and thanks again so very much :friends: But shutting it down didn't shut it down and I forgot a couple of things I was going to do so turned it back on and then took twenty minutes to shut down all the window that were open ;) so this is the last for the night so sweet dreams all :)
Title: RE: Facebook
Post by: Fulvio on June 20, 2014, 02:42:31 PM
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='53052' dateline='1403192089'took twenty minutes to shut down

And now you know why I never turn any of my machines off. :angel: