:dodgy: ok I'm starting my own BS list and here's the first that I found on feebay suss this for BS http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1990-SLABBED-FIFTY-CENT-COAT-OF-ARMS-MS62-COIN/181274222048?_trksid=p2046732.m2060&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D3143631618518057412%26pid%3D100040%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D321264183862%26#ht_1104wt_958
:scratch_one-s_head: this I might have to start my own :winkextra: and I think there were about 3 done like this :laugh2:
you sure are on the ball AJ . this will be a ' do not buy' thread
another TPG in Canberra ?[/i]
That "old Brown trout" doesn't swim in my lake Mate :ok:
I highly doubt that he has set himself up as a TPG
He probably bought them off someone else and as is
A lot of collectors use that Sheldon grading system and label accordingly to their opinion but I know that this seller doesn't know how to use that or other grading systems , so i'd reckon that these are someone else's' set-up that he has acquired and is selling on
I could be wrong too
anyone can buy those holders - they have been on the market for years
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='36124' dateline='1386108557'I highly doubt that he has set himself up as a TPG
He probably bought them off someone else and as is
A lot of collectors use that Sheldon grading system and label accordingly to their opinion but I know that this seller doesn't know how to use that or other grading systems , so i'd reckon that these are someone else's' set-up that he has acquired and is selling on
I could be wrong too
anyone can buy those holders - they have been on the market for years
:agreed:
I have bought off this seller and haven't had any dramas :ok:
However the $36 valuation is BS, "Blue Sheet" has this at $30 for a MS67 coin .
I know this seller, the coin is good, just been put in a slab by someone.
he wouldn't intentionally rip someone off he is too nice for that.
yeah I don't think he is into grading coins, so this is news to me
I'll take ya word for it mate :winkextra:
you want something to look at, well here's a junk coin >> http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ERROR-BLANK-PLANCHET-AUSTRALIAN-5-CENT-COIN-YEAR-UNKNOWN-LOTbp-/221329927327?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item33884aac9f#ht_1184wt_1399
and I would be returning this one for another as its clearly damaged >> http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2014-australian-mint-coin-set-with-error-1-colour-coin-very-rare-set-/271337988636?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item3f2d01221c#ht_303wt_1399
:laugh2: thanks little mate I needed a good laugh :winkextra:
Quote from: 'Australian coin' pid='36144' dateline='1386125225'you want something to look at, well here's a junk coin
and I would be returning this one for another as its clearly damaged
The 5¢ looks like a very soft strike. Either a thin planchet or while they were setting up the press.
The $1 is probably damaged by the robot that assembles the sets. Damage on opposite sides would suggest it was crushed by too high a pressure.
So OK, both descriptions are crap. And the set is not worth a premium. But other than that, there's nothing dodgy going on here.
haha I never said they were dodgy just not worth buying, well not worth collecting anyway too
oh you want to see my latest purchase, haven't got it yet but yeah, its a bit crappy but I am giving it a home
(http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Artefact/AA/Artefact-06964.jpg)
$6.45 including post is ok
yep that's alright for a nice little error :winkextra:
'nice catch' :ok:
Quote from: 'Australian coin' pid='36147' dateline='1386126019'not worth collecting anyway
Hrm.... I'd put the 3d and the 5¢ in the same basket for desirability. I'd give both a home if I found them, but I wouldn't buy either one in their condition. :angel:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/EROOR-COINS-x-10-AUSTRALIAN-WEAK-STRIKE-AND-DIE-CRACKS-RARE-5-CENT-LotWS-/221329919210?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item33884a8cea
Quote from: 'Australian coin' pid='36147' dateline='1386126019'haha I never said they were dodgy just not worth buying, well not worth collecting anyway too
oh you want to see my latest purchase, haven't got it yet but yeah, its a bit crappy but I am giving it a home
(http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq3/Artefact/AA/Artefact-06964.jpg)
$6.45 including post is ok
excellent buy there AC
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='36117' dateline='1386100665':dodgy: ok I'm starting my own BS list and here's the first that I found on feebay suss this for BS http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1990-SLABBED-FIFTY-CENT-COAT-OF-ARMS-MS62-COIN/181274222048?_trksid=p2046732.m2060&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D3143631618518057412%26pid%3D100040%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D321264183862%26#ht_1104wt_958
:scratch_one-s_head: this I might have to start my own :winkextra: and I think there were about 3 done like this :laugh2:
Is this a real slab?
Quote from: 'runway' pid='36191' dateline='1386154228'Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='36117' dateline='1386100665':dodgy: ok I'm starting my own BS list and here's the first that I found on feebay suss this for BS http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1990-SLABBED-FIFTY-CENT-COAT-OF-ARMS-MS62-COIN/181274222048?_trksid=p2046732.m2060&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D3143631618518057412%26pid%3D100040%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D321264183862%26#ht_1104wt_958
:scratch_one-s_head: this I might have to start my own :winkextra: and I think there were about 3 done like this :laugh2:
Is this a real slab?
it IS in a slab but it ISN'T from a recognised TPG, It is a "Basement" Slab :ok:
well Lighthouse reckon they are real slabs
but they aren't from a registered third party grading company
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/5-32mm-NEW-LIGHTHOUSE-EVERSLAB-COIN-CAPSULES-COIN-HOLDERS-/151181161581?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item233319746d#ht_976wt_1164
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='36193' dateline='1386154335'well Lighthouse reckon they are real slabs
Well, yeah, they're real slabs. As in they're the same bits of plastic from the same machine. But that's not what slabbing is about, is it? Its all about the grading certification, and he bit that makes that is the number they give it. Wouldn't matter if it was wrapped in dunny paper, it would still be the same certified coin.
Whereas this one, well, its never been anywhere near a grading company, so its just a random coin in a fancy 2x2 that doesn't fit in album pages. :P
Not that there's anything wrong with protecting a coin in a hefty and expensive mount, mind you. But the intent is clearly to deceive the unwary, and that sucks.
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='36206' dateline='1386161566'Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='36193' dateline='1386154335'well Lighthouse reckon they are real slabs
Well, yeah, they're real slabs. As in they're the same bits of plastic from the same machine. But that's not what slabbing is about, is it? Its all about the grading certification, and he bit that makes that is the number they give it. Wouldn't matter if it was wrapped in dunny paper, it would still be the same certified coin.
Whereas this one, well, its never been anywhere near a grading company, so its just a random coin in a fancy 2x2 that doesn't fit in album pages. :P
Not that there's anything wrong with protecting a coin in a hefty and expensive mount, mind you. But the intent is clearly to deceive the unwary, and that sucks.
:yeah_what_she_said:
now this is funny if it still has the same pic that isn't an incuse or is it ;)http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Incused-50-Cent-Millennium-Error-Circulated-Coin-Priced-To-Sell-/251399680681?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item3a8896b2a9#ht_386wt_958
there used to be a seller on Oztion who used to have photos of his cat in his listings
but he also had a photo of the item for sale as well
there is a lot of double dutch in the description - smart seller
I found a very rare 1964 penny tonight on ebay!
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Lot-3-1964-Penny-almost-unc-Very-Rare-/151184173752?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item2333476ab8#ht_236wt_1402
Jesus RG if I didn't love the coin you sent I'd send it to them so they can see a nice coin..the best I've seen PFFFFT, I don't get to see good coins except on pic's and they're pretty suss sometimes
BS drivers give me the willies as I just had to have a scan done on my back so all good until coming home and this silly umm person decides that my blinker doesn't matter so pull out of a give way in front so I lock up and slid sidways as the little utes tend to do with no weight in the back so had a few nice words to say but just oh so lucky :winkextra:
jesus, I'm not a happy camper as I just sussed my lotto tickets thatI just bought for the big one next year and they gave me the weekend draw, customer service just doesn't exist any more except for good people like PP :heart: Fairdink they wonder why I go off and things get broken and people get hurt :@
and not forgetting I have to do about 10km trip to get it fixed up, I think a lot is just to piss us off and use more fuel and that goes the same as all these bloody road works that are causing that many accidents and road rage it's not funny as people are sick of it as a lot up this way have been going on from before my brain op and that's 10 years next year..why can't they see what they are doing, or do they see and don't care as it's not their families getting killed up here, just ask Kel what it's like as there's hundreds and hundreds of km's where your lucky to do 40km/h and don't get me strated about the lazy so and so's standing around doing nothing and getting paid bloody good money to do so and as for the traffic controllers, mate say no mare what a useless buch of tukey's they are where they can't even use a stop go battern any more, gee what has happened to our once great australia :(
A.J., luckily I am getting to the age where I can't even remember what I did tomorrow.!! :kez_15:
Robster I can't wait mate :good: is there a pill that help speed up the process :winkextra:
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='36786' dateline='1386716024'person decides that my blinker doesn't matter so pull out of a give way in front
Mate, I was coming back from Phil's the other day, and this idiot in a black 4WD backed out of a driveway on my left, 3/4 of the way across the road. pulled over to the left, then as I got there
(at 100km/h) did a U-turn in front of me without indicating!
I locked everything up, figuring I'd be better off hitting him side-on, and luckily he looked over his shoulder and stopped. Reckon I took the paint off his bullbar as I went past.
Not sure who had the brownest undies... me or the guy coming the other way. For sure it would have gotten messy if he hadn't been paying attention.... 200 km/h 3-way head-on! :(
I blame the bloody wankers at the RTA, TAC, the pollies and cops for their carrying on about speed instead of actually teaching people to drive. And of course it has
nothing to do with all that loot from speed camera fines, does it? HAH! :dodgy:
funny mine was a green 4wd and agree teach them to drive and stop revenue raising :dodgy:
Now to more BS, well this has gotto be BS or I'm laughing as mine is that close to the same it's not funny :)
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2001-CENTENARY-AUSTRALIAN-ONE-DOLLAR-RAM-ROTATED-4OCLOCK-ERROR-RARE-EXC-/200998661751?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item2ecc742e77#ht_1043wt_958
and this one that I have one like but maybe better nick and off a bit more ;)
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1995-Rare-Off-Cut-Error-Fraser-Evans-50-00-Banknote-/121200939973?pt=AU_Notes&hash=item1c382393c5#ht_3485wt_1016
(http://i40.tinypic.com/5tikn.jpg) so it makes me think
Fair dinkum AJ ..... I'm sure they come complete with jousting sticks and 30 sets of steak knives!
Is it me or is the grading on their banknote a bit ....... off .......
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='36807' dateline='1386728189'Now to more BS, well this has gotto be BS or I'm laughing as mine is that close to the same it's not funny
I dunno. I refuse to even look at wankers who write in massive colours on their listings. As if it achieves anything.... morons. :(
As for the miscut, I threw back a much better one than that at the bank the other day. But I'm sure some bidiot will swallow it.
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='36819' dateline='1386730460'I dunno. I refuse to even look at wankers who write in massive colours on their listings. As if it achieves anything.... morons. :(
Guess whose rellie that one is, up in Bundy. :winkextra:
Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='36821' dateline='1386730819'Guess whose rellie that one is, up in Bundy.
Somebody who's real good at finding rarities in caps and the like?
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='36830' dateline='1386731715'Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='36821' dateline='1386730819'Guess whose rellie that one is, up in Bundy.
Somebody who's real good at finding rarities in caps and the like?
Nah! The one who's got the Registered Trade Mark on bubbles. :winkextra:
Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='36832' dateline='1386731818'Nah! The one who's got the Registered Trade Mark on bubbles. :winkextra:
Ooooohhhhhhhh... LOL!
talking of bubble lookie lookie same dealer LMAO :)
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/BUBBLE-ERROR-VARIETY-COIN-AUNC-AUSTRALIAN-2012-FIFTY-CENTS-FREE-POST-/200998661753?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item2ecc742e79#ht_1067wt_958 so AC ya can bump up the price baby :yahoo:
And Uni do you think my note would be aUNC :laugh2: sorry couldn't help it :)
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='36836' dateline='1386732107'talking of bubble lookie lookie same dealer LMAO :)
aUNC my big fat hairy yellow butt, as Homer would say.
Didn't even pick up the hair cud on the obverse either. Must be too awesome a collector to bother looking properly I guess. ;)
now now mate ;)
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='36836' dateline='1386732107'And Uni do you think my note would be aUNC :laugh2: sorry couldn't help it :)
AJ it makes yours look CFU!
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='36807' dateline='1386728189'funny mine was a green 4wd and agree teach them to drive and stop revenue raising :dodgy:
Now to more BS, well this has gotto be BS or I'm laughing as mine is that close to the same it's not funny :)
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2001-CENTENARY-AUSTRALIAN-ONE-DOLLAR-RAM-ROTATED-4OCLOCK-ERROR-RARE-EXC-/200998661751?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item2ecc742e77#ht_1043wt_958
and this one that I have one like but maybe better nick and off a bit more ;)
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1995-Rare-Off-Cut-Error-Fraser-Evans-50-00-Banknote-/121200939973?pt=AU_Notes&hash=item1c382393c5#ht_3485wt_1016
(http://i40.tinypic.com/5tikn.jpg) so it makes me think
ok
now, what is cut off on this note?
The easiest way is to grab a regular $5o for comparison, look at the red vertical lines above the large 50 in the top right then look below the Serial No on the bottom right of the note. The difference should stand out like t**s on a bull.:winkextra:
(http://i40.tinypic.com/5tikn.jpg)
(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/50dollarnote_zps6b75f4b0.jpg)
ok
so it is like an off-centre strike
but an off-centre print
I'm still having a look at the bull!! ha ha
(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/d06c68ae-6a8d-48a3-904c-709fe95e2e07_zpsc191bc2c.jpg)
I'd say it's an off centre cut. The print would have been OK, just the cutting up of the sheet went a bit wonky. There's probably a lot more just like it.
Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='36885' dateline='1386746216'There's probably a lot more just like it.
Dunno about a
lot, but more than one or two, definitely. If one sheet is out of whack, every note on it will be miscut. And there may well be a number of sheets in the stack that are off by little amounts.
Personally, I think the miscut has to be severe enough for some feature to be entirely missing to have any significant value. Less than that and its more an oddity than anything.
I found one the other day that is about 1mm longer than other notes so I put it aside for a little :)
ok now I have to keep all fat letters as this can't be right can it
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Millenium-2000-Error-50-cent-Coin-Large-Letter-Letters-Scarcer-Than-Incused-/111235772182?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item19e62b2f16#ht_107wt_1282
gee and all these little cuds I toss back I'll have to save if they're worth this much
http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_odkw=australian+error+coins&_sop=3&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313&_nkw=australian+error+coins+50+cent&_sacat=0
Someone way back, not me, named those 2000 50's with the fat letters 'Candleabra', but no patent was taken out on the name. :winkextra:
AJ, this was one I sold back in Aug 2012 ..... $12.05
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11067/2000.jpg)
Not sure how they worked out that they are scarcer than an incused?
I might have to check the ground behind RG's bull ......
On the alignment front, I did have this earlier in the year. Cut bigger than normal and aligned a fair bit out of whack in comparison..... listed it for $60 ...... didn't sell ...... sob .....
Them's the breaks!
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11067/50_align2.jpg)
gee that's a different looking 50 cent, looks like it goes in and not out ummm Yeah I think a lot of this is luck of the draw and ya just need two people that want the bloody thing really really bad
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='36918' dateline='1386790789'Yeah I think a lot of this is luck of the draw and ya just need two people that want the bloody thing really really bad
Absolutely, the more the merrier!!
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='36918' dateline='1386790789'gee that's a different looking 50 cent, looks like it goes in and not out
Its funny, yesterday it looked like that to me, and I just couldn't see it correctly. Today it looks normal. All a bit Escher-esque. ;)
Optical illusion, happens to me all the time. :angel:
This might help AJ .... same coin (on left) with a normal for comparison ...
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11067/2000_1.jpg)
that is too groovy
I like it a lot
It certainly is unusual and not a feature which you would be normally looking for on one of these coins
What am I not seeing???????
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='36955' dateline='1386839733'What am I not seeing???????
The fat lettering in the word Millennium.Especially the last half of the word
I can't for the life of me see that incused flag
BUT I CAN see the fat lettering that looks, well, maybe like candles
I must admit that the song - 'I like your big butt baby' came into my mind!! ha ha
(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/2000_1_zpsb9974a67.jpg)
Quote from: 'stevo1962' pid='36960' dateline='1386840638'The fat lettering in the word Millennium.Especially the last half of the word
DOH! I saw the doubling, but didn't attribute much significance to it. Now I'll have to find all mine and see if any have fat letters as well.
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='36967' dateline='1386843854'DOH! I saw the doubling, but didn't attribute much significance to it. Now I'll have to find all mine and see if any have fat letters as well.
It's fairly common in my experience. :angel:
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='36898' dateline='1386754594'ok now I have to keep all fat letters as this can't be right can it
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Millenium-2000-Error-50-cent-Coin-Large-Letter-Letters-Scarcer-Than-Incused-/111235772182?
Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='36912' dateline='1386763137'Not sure how they worked out that they are scarcer than an incused?
Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='36968' dateline='1386845775'It's fairly common in my experience. :angel:
:i_agree:
Nice arrow work on the pic RG!
now come on, this is a joke and just wrong, WRONG I say..wedding set missing the two dollar and fifty cent coins but I will put a bid on and try and get a few coins as give aways if I can get them for 8 or 9 dollars, but if not avoid :winkextra: but mind you doesn't look like a collector http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Australian-Wedding-Coin-Collection-2002-Incomplete-Set-/181286453012?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item2a3583bf14#ht_942wt_922
maybe it got split up in the divorce settlement :dodgy: