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Australian Coins, Banknotes and Exonumia => Australian Decimal Circulating Coins => Topic started by: lacey on November 27, 2013, 06:16:53 PM

Title: coins with numbers carved or
Post by: lacey on November 27, 2013, 06:16:53 PM
stamped into them.  Does anyone know how these come about?

I read something about it a while back and think maybe Robbie knows but not sure about that.
Title: RE: coins with numbers carved or
Post by: robbiegal on November 27, 2013, 06:22:29 PM
Counterstamp
Title: RE: coins with numbers carved or
Post by: trout on November 27, 2013, 06:36:49 PM
On the older coins , I mean 1700's and back often have  "Chop Marks' in them. they did this to ascertain if they were real silver and not fakes.
The modern coins are simply PMD .
Title: RE: coins with numbers carved or
Post by: purplepennyhunter on December 02, 2013, 01:22:35 PM
Hey Lacey did you mean like this one on ebay?

ebay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1984-Stamped-1-coin-/190982288464?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item2c776e7450&_uhb=1)
Title: RE: coins with numbers carved or
Post by: Unicorn on December 02, 2013, 01:46:23 PM
Lol, if that one sells PPH I'll be off to supercheap to get a full set of punches!

Just kidding ....... surely they can't be serious ........

..... and don't call me Shirley ..... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A5t5_O8hdA)
Title: RE: coins with numbers carved or
Post by: bellyflorin on December 02, 2013, 02:15:17 PM
yep PP i think irene was asking about the decimal coins ones ,
 My theory on those numbered coins , i reckon the  old PMG /telstra   might have  issued them to their phone box mechanics  , to test the coin  mechanism  on the public phones ,and to possibly  stop them pilfering  or maybe even  vending/poker machine mechanics , to see if the  machines spit out the correct coinage in a certain order.:-/

I remember years ago when i was a pinball wizard hehe  the pinball mechanic would have   coins with painted crosses on them , so he could retrieve the coins out of the coin hopper after his repairs .
Title: RE: coins with numbers carved or
Post by: purplepennyhunter on December 02, 2013, 02:32:59 PM
I have a number of these all on dollars. I don't expect that they're worth more than a dollar but have kept them for novelty and in case I figure out one day how they really came about. The Telecom idea is a good one, what cost a dollar back then though!
Title: RE: coins with numbers carved or
Post by: Unicorn on December 02, 2013, 02:53:28 PM
I reckon it's the kids at school doing metalwork as a subject. Alphabetical and numerical punch sets and some reasonably soft metal to test it on.
Title: RE: coins with numbers carved or
Post by: czark on December 02, 2013, 06:50:52 PM
Here's one I found some time ago.
(http://i42.tinypic.com/331lzic.jpg)
Title: RE: coins with numbers carved or
Post by: Unicorn on December 02, 2013, 07:04:48 PM
Did you buy a vowel Czark or is it part of the secret code authorising the launch of US nuclear missiles?

00000000 (http://www.news.com.au/world/dial-00000000-for-armageddon/story-fndir2ev-1226772920115)
Title: RE: coins with numbers carved or
Post by: czark on December 02, 2013, 07:15:15 PM
Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='36020' dateline='1385973288'Did you buy a vowel Czark or is it part of the secret code authorising the launch of US nuclear missiles?

00000000 (http://www.news.com.au/world/dial-00000000-for-armageddon/story-fndir2ev-1226772920115)

You got me!
Title: RE: coins with numbers carved or
Post by: Fulvio on December 03, 2013, 01:31:33 AM
Quote from: 'bellyflorin' pid='36004' dateline='1385955917'My theory on those numbered coins , i reckon the  old PMG /telstra   might have  issued them to their phone box mechanics

That's a very good theory. My uncle was OIC of the section that maintained stamp dispensers. They used rolls of black test stamps with white lettering on them. Can't recall exactly what they said, but I have some stashed someplace. I tried using them on First Day Covers, but the sneaky sods postmarked around them so as to cancel only the real stamps. :(

I do have vague memories of seeing one or two coins with numbers punched on them around then, but never thought to ask if they were part of the test thing. Can't ask now, as he passed away a few years ago. :(
Title: RE: coins with numbers carved or
Post by: Robster on December 03, 2013, 01:25:05 PM
Would love to see one of those stamps Fulvio.!!!!! :beg:
Title: RE: coins with numbers carved or
Post by: Fulvio on December 03, 2013, 05:08:02 PM
Quote from: 'Robster' pid='36065' dateline='1386039305'Would love to see one of those stamps Fulvio.!!!!! :beg:

Just got home from a couple of days of coin stuff with Phil after picking up some treasures forum members stuffed my PO box with (Thanks guys, you all know who you are). Give me a chance to find the albums and I'll see what I can do.
Title: RE: coins with numbers carved or
Post by: runway on December 04, 2013, 09:33:26 PM
O  pmd
Title: RE: coins with numbers carved or
Post by: lacey on December 05, 2013, 01:28:48 PM
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='35999' dateline='1385952755'Hey Lacey did you mean like this one on ebay?

ebay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1984-Stamped-1-coin-/190982288464?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item2c776e7450&_uhb=1)

yes Robbie, I did.

Sorry I haven't been back.  I forgot I had even asked this question

Quote from: 'bellyflorin' pid='36004' dateline='1385955917'yep PP i think irene was asking about the decimal coins ones ,
 My theory on those numbered coins , i reckon the  old PMG /telstra   might have  issued them to their phone box mechanics  , to test the coin  mechanism  on the public phones ,and to possibly  stop them pilfering  or maybe even  vending/poker machine mechanics , to see if the  machines spit out the correct coinage in a certain order.:-/

I remember years ago when i was a pinball wizard hehe  the pinball mechanic would have   coins with painted crosses on them , so he could retrieve the coins out of the coin hopper after his repairs .

yeah belly, but don't forget, your old now, lol, and back THAT far, there were no $1 coins.
Title: RE: coins with numbers carved or
Post by: robbiegal on December 05, 2013, 02:49:28 PM
well, welcome back Lacey
but it was PP who asked with the link

I thought you meant the old coins that used to be counterstamped
anyways, don't post and then forget to come back - we miss you!
Title: RE: coins with numbers carved or
Post by: lacey on December 20, 2013, 01:23:21 PM
really????????
Title: RE: coins with numbers carved or
Post by: Fulvio on December 20, 2013, 01:46:08 PM
Quote from: 'lacey' pid='37565' dateline='1387508001'really????????

Yeah, really.. though I put it down to the sights being misaligned... :diablo:
Title: RE: coins with numbers carved or
Post by: lacey on December 24, 2013, 05:24:07 PM
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='37566' dateline='1387509368'
Quote from: 'lacey' pid='37565' dateline='1387508001'really????????

Yeah, really.. though I put it down to the sights being misaligned... :diablo:

nah, I reckon it's you that's mis-aligned lol
Title: RE: coins with numbers carved or
Post by: Nevol on March 24, 2014, 02:22:49 PM
Here are all the 'numbered' and 'lettered' counter-stamped coins I can lay my hands on at present.  I've got more, but they're hiding from me.  :angel:
1967 20c Obv CS '0'
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10007/1967_20c_Obv_CS__0_.jpg)

1967 20c Obv CS 'A'
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10007/1967_20c_Obv_CS__A_.jpg)

1968 20c Obv CS 'U'
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10007/1968_20c_Obv_CS__U_.jpg)

1975 50c Obv CS 'E'
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10007/1975_50c_Obv_CS__E_.jpg)

1979 5c Rev CS '2'
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10007/1979_5c_Rev_CS_2_.jpg)

1995 $1 Obv CS '3'
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10007/1995__1_Obv_CS__3_.jpg)

1995 $1 Obv CS '1' Duo (This one must be worth heaps seeing it's an overstamp) :winkextra:

(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10007/1995__1_Obv_CS_1__Duo.jpg)

1996 50c Obv CS '1'
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10007/1996_50c_Obv_CS__1_.jpg)

1997 $1 Obv Rev CS '0' Duo
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10007/1997__1_Obv_Rev_CS__0__Duo.jpg)

1998 $2 Obv CS '3' (Poor ol Lizzie got it in the neck!)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10007/1998__2_Obv_CS__3_.jpg)

2001 $1 CoF Obv Rev CS '4 Duo
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10007/2001__1_CoF_Obv_Rev_CS__4_Duo.jpg)

2004 20c Obv CS '5'
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10007/2004_20c_Obv_CS__5_.jpg)
Title: RE: coins with numbers carved or
Post by: Goldseeker on March 24, 2014, 04:53:43 PM
I have seen a few in my time but I just throw them back into circulation.
Title: RE: coins with numbers carved or
Post by: Fulvio on March 24, 2014, 05:30:48 PM
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='44668' dateline='1395642223'I have seen a few in my time but I just throw them back into circulation.

I tend to keep them as curiosities.
Title: RE: coins with numbers carved or
Post by: JeffH on March 24, 2014, 05:56:57 PM
I have a few number/letter punch sets. I could offer to do custom designs...but, I won't.
Title: RE: coins with numbers carved or
Post by: kiwiaus on May 08, 2015, 07:38:54 PM
[attachment=3224]Bit off a dig up but found this $2 yesterday, still no known reason ??? Like a tagger with a paint can ???:yahoo:
Title: RE: coins with numbers carved or
Post by: runway on May 08, 2015, 11:46:43 PM
Defaced coins don't interest me
Title: RE: coins with numbers carved or
Post by: Unicorn on May 09, 2015, 02:54:46 PM
:laugh2: When a list is made of people who are not interested in defaced coins, then I think we should put runway at the very top.

Personally I wouldn't say no to a holey dollar or dump. :angel:

Come on ....... I've opened the can of worms for you now!
Title: RE: coins with numbers carved or
Post by: kiwiaus on May 09, 2015, 02:59:35 PM
I worked my one out... Really Good Coin    :P
Title: RE: coins with numbers carved or
Post by: runway on May 09, 2015, 10:16:26 PM
Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='72074' dateline='1431149086':laugh2: When a list is made of people who are not interested in defaced coins, then I think we should put runway at the very top.

Personally I wouldn't say no to a holey dollar or dump. :angel:

Come on ....... I've opened the can of worms for you now!
Junk and illegal as well anyone who has a hammer stamp set of numbers and letters could do this,can't see the point of any interest in these defaced coins
Title: RE: coins with numbers carved or
Post by: Unicorn on May 09, 2015, 10:38:47 PM
:laugh2: ...... hook, line and sinker ...... got a bite!  :biggrin:

I'm glad you have clarified it from "Defaced coins" to "these defaced coins".
Title: RE: coins with numbers carved or
Post by: runway on May 09, 2015, 11:43:58 PM
Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='72088' dateline='1431176927':laugh2: ...... hook, line and sinker ...... got a bite!  :biggrin:

I'm glad you have clarified it from "Defaced coins" to "these defaced coins".
Whatever mate defacing is defacing :dodgy:
Title: RE: coins with numbers carved or
Post by: Unicorn on May 10, 2015, 08:38:25 AM
Quote from: 'runway' pid='72084' dateline='1431175586'
Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='72074' dateline='1431149086':laugh2: When a list is made of people who are not interested in defaced coins, then I think we should put runway at the very top.

Personally I wouldn't say no to a holey dollar or dump. :angel:

Come on ....... I've opened the can of worms for you now!
Junk and illegal as well anyone who has a hammer stamp set of numbers and letters could do this,can't see the point of any interest in these defaced coins

:dead_horse: "The middle was punched out of Spanish dollars, creating two parts: a small coin, known as a 'dump' in Australia, and a 'holey dollar'." ......"Governor Macquarie had a convicted forger named William Henshall cut the centres out of the coins and counter stamp them."

Punched and counter stamped ......... same thing only different. :dead_horse: :dead_horse: :dead_horse: :dead_horse: :dead_horse: :dead_horse: :dead_horse: :dead_horse: :dead_horse:

Just for you on this thread runway ......

Quote from: 'runway' pid='72048' dateline='1431094150'...... move along nothing to see here
Title: RE: coins with numbers carved or
Post by: Goldseeker on May 10, 2015, 11:09:35 AM
Yeah, totally agree but the only difference is that the Holey Dollar and dump, as they became known were LEGAL Tender.

Oh, by the way, will you stop beating up that poor horse, it is already gone to horses heaven!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: RE: coins with numbers carved or
Post by: Unicorn on May 10, 2015, 11:55:28 AM
:laugh2: .... On ya Goldie ..... it was once a Unicorn, but was dehorned by the constant beating.
Title: RE: coins with numbers carved or
Post by: Goldseeker on May 10, 2015, 06:50:48 PM
You are one cruel so in so.   Let it be.   Poor thing!!!!!!!!!