:dodgy: one thing I hate about the bloody net and that's that I have no idea as to etiquette as it's a bit hard to know when your teaching your self and different people have different ideas, yes some things are a no brainer so lucky for me but others aren't so, like it seems that you don't answer an email or message straight away as it's bad form to some people where as I like to try and get things done so I can get the next thing done so I wish someone would write something somewhere as that would be such a huge help, sorry just thinking as I get in to too much trouble over things I don't even know about but I'm slowly learning :)
h aha
I did a facebook muff up the other night and ended up having all the kids texting and phoning me
cause i'd put that my relationship was 'it's complicated' as I didn't want facebook knowing all about my personal life
well, the kafuffle with the family & even the hubby
it was incredible
apparently 'complicated 'in facebook jargon - means it's in trouble
then I put retired - so away it goes - getting all sorts of congrats e-mails!
I didn't realise that a timeline update told everybody else what i'd selected!
now I can't get retied off the thing
ha ha - so I am a happy working retired!!
HAHAHA sorry to laugh but glad someone else has the same problems I do, I have no idea :laugh2: but slowly working it out..the hard way :dash1:
Facebook, a dangerous place to place details any time.......my advice, DON'T!
I thought the details were just with me but they send a message out to all my friends about my 'update'
anyways, I figured out that I can set some to 'only me' but the relationship one does NOT have any privacy setting
I only use it to keep in touch with the family that is dotted around Australia but yes, there is a lot of information gathering going on for sure
anyways, I live in Normanton and am retired but now I am married ... (just to keep the peace with the family!)
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='35167' dateline='1385161859'apparently 'complicated 'in facebook jargon - means it's in trouble
I thought it meant you were a swinger who went to orgies every night?
Failbook is a massive disaster area, IMO. Not least because the combination of stupid policies and even stupider kids is a recipe for all sorts of abuse and angst. Best avoided entirely, or treated much as you would an anthrax storage facility... very, very carefully. ;)
I kept cancelling my FB account as I think it is best done without. But my wife keeps going to check grandchildren news -if account is accessed within a week of cancelling it is fully restored.
So now I treat it as a "READ ONLY" and never post anything.
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='35221' dateline='1385181349'I kept cancelling my FB account as I think it is best done without. But my wife keeps going to check grandchildren news -if account is accessed within a week of cancelling it is fully restored.
So now I treat it as a "READ ONLY" and never post anything.
And there's the trap, right there. People use FB because people use FB. Be they family or friends or celebrities or businesses, its the whole lemming thing in action.
Not posting works, but they still get to claim they have 90 bazillion users. Even cancelling accounts doesn't help... I have dead friends who are still on FB, and will be for eternity. :(
I have a dead friend on FB too Fulivo
but I thought his mother& sisters keep it going as they all keep adding to it
it spooks me a bit actually - i'd prefer to 'unfriend' him but then the mother will unfriend me (forever most likely) - again internet etiquette?
I just use it to keep in touch with the family & a couple of mates - all interstate
anyways, they read my few and far between posts as I caused a stir
not sure about complicated meaning you are a swinger cause they have a choice of "in an open relationship" - i'd never select that one - the one long term and loveable man for the past 28 years is more than a handful for this old coin collector - so married is ok - i'll let that one stay as is and everybody is happy now .... silly duffers
but I still think that keeping things going strong for 28 years is not without it's complications which is how I saw it
I guess it's funny now - but I get this text from my son ... "mum. I read your facebook timeline update and now I am very concerned, I will call you tomorrow" ... the daughter "WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!! "
my sisters ..." reely!!!!!!!"
ha ha
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='35224' dateline='1385181725'... I have dead friends who are still on FB, and will be for eternity. :(
Mark was just saying yesterday half his Skype friends are dead. Awfully sad really.
sad indeed
what bad luck as well
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='35254' dateline='1385188227'Mark was just saying yesterday half his Skype friends are dead. Awfully sad really.
It is, very. And its something that nobody has really given any thought to. This current generation will be the first to live their entire lives online, and the digital footprint will be enormous. And zero thought has gone into what happens when you go.
It needs thinking about, and quickly. The status quo, judging from my dear dead mates, is totally unacceptable.
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='35255' dateline='1385188322'sad indeed
what bad luck as well
Yeah, they were all young too. One of them was under 35 and rang me just a week before from the USA as happy as Larry. His death came out of nowhere.
:( yep there's not many people left that I went to school with these days and I'm only 43 and that's why I've been getting poeples info I like like addresses and phone numbers so if I haven't heard from them for a while I can give them a bell if I'm worried something has happened as I think some people here are really cool and I consider friends :) So yes I've been thinking about it for quite a while ;)
Still trying to work out how to take people and even the meanings of thing like ATM to me was abloody auto tell but now it's at the monent and LOL was lots of love but as things do it all changes but I'm getting there, jesus it too me years to work out these, sorry about the spacing but it will do the proper face if I don't have it :good: ; ) : ) : D : / : P so yeah there's heaps to learn and also try and be a little careful at the same time, it really is a tricky place and so very dishonest and that another thing I really don't like about it 'cause believe it or not but I am a pretty honest bloke, I told you belly..shut ya pie hole :laugh2:
Quote from: 'markn' pid='35264' dateline='1385191908'Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='35255' dateline='1385188322'sad indeed
what bad luck as well
Yeah, they were all young too. One of them was under 35 and rang me just a week before from the USA as happy as Larry. His death came out of nowhere.
my friends son was just off 21 years and a shock to myself and the family
so it creeps me when his picture keeps showing up on my face-book
he will always be 21 now and that was 3 years ago
a couple of students drowned when the hubby was a tutor at James Cook UNI - overseas students collecting corals who couldn't read the sweeping tides - got caught and drowned
it was a shock to the small biol. sciences school
anyways, one of the Chinese Tutors at the time said to me that there is a Chinese expression
"the distance between life and death is as thin as a sheet of rice paper"
at that time it gave me an understanding of how we can slip through to the other side in a matter of minutes
since then, I have worked in ED, ICU & palliative care and have been with quite a number of patients in their final moments and I have found that the (bitter) sweetness of palliative care is that one has time to prepare for the end and hopefully be medically and socially comforted
whereas, when a person is a young bloke heading out to bring corals back for the research and planning the disco scene for that night, well, it is unbelievable and of course, always resonates uncomfortably somewhere there in my soul
I am sure that your friends' sudden passing does as well
xx
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='35279' dateline='1385202451'one has time to prepare for the end
I started to relate a couple of sudden and violent passings, but the memories were too painful, so thought better of it.
Rather, I'll just point out the obvious... its an inevitable consequence of life we will all face. There are no differing qualities of death either. Dead is dead, and its all the same no matter how you go.
What IS different though is the quality
(not just the length) of the life which preceeded it. Far too many people I believe give the inevitable no thought until those last few moments when they can no longer escape the reality of their own mortality. And that is the real tragedy, which makes it such a waste. No matter how many hours and days your journey takes, the arrival needs to be planned ahead of time, because there is no going back. You can't complain that you're not ready, and you need to go pack or anything, can you?
As a group, I think Buddhists have the best handle on all this. As religions and philosophies
(after all, it isn't a religion) go, it surely has to be the way everyone ought to live their lives if they want to go in peace.
yeah mate we all have different views
and it is an intimate topic
I have worked in hospitals for over 20 years and I remember in my first hospital job interview the big question - was I able to comfortably be around or with people who were either dying or were deceased because that would be a frequent occurrence
it was a personal challenge on many levels and I eventually developed the speciality of palliative care , more likely as a self care reaction to having been present during traumatic deaths
there are no differing qualities of dead itself but there are extraordinary and differing qualities of 'how you get there'
and most of my work has been with people around the getting there part of the journey
I agree live life to the fullest
and no, no one is ever really prepared as it is a big first and only
but yes, you do need to pack - either through a personal philosophy or faith, discuss organ donation with the family, accepting the frailty of human existence, etc etc
it is an ending
just as the birth of a child, is a beginning
it's natural and unavoidable
but it is never simple
the Buddhists say a lot of peaceful and philosophical words
but when it's raw human reality I can say that I have seen no really significant differences between the faiths
though, the Buddhists have peaceful and fascinating funeral rites for sure!
My friend was an Iraq war veteran and was injured somewhat when he was there. He always had trouble sleeping when he returned and would have periods where he would be awake for 3-4 days at a time. It appears, that one time he just spent too long awake and his body packed it in. All very sad.
Thank you very much for all your input RG I really enjoy reading your comments, I see a very caring soul and I like it and wish there was more of it :) Actually there's a lot of peoples comments that I like and gives the site a human and earthy appeal, well it appeals to me :)
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='35294' dateline='1385244804'gives the site a human and earthy appeal
:agreed::yeah_what_she_said:
I got out just before that Mark but I know all about the ADF and also about how the lack of sleep can effect you and many many things about the human brain now but I had to learn the hard way as well. The longest I've been is about two weeks or could have been longer but you start micro sleeping and seeing shit and nothing is as it appears, it's really hard to explain sorry and sleeping pills and the like don't work..it drives you insane :( Sorry I'll try and talk about this more later just a bit of a raw nerve sorry, don't worry I'm all good, just a little sad is all but will come good.
sleep deprivation mimics psychosis (wiki)
and yes, it takes a lot of treatment and time to restore sleep patterns where possible
It's great that you know what to do to manage it now, AJ
haha nah I don't really sorry RG as i still go off, but yes I'm trying and it's still very hard but I've worked out and only because I don't have to work or do anything any more that if I feel tired just go lay down even if you just shut your eyes as the body starts to heal it's self, sorry about the only way I can put it for now but I'll try more later. I just wish the Dr's would listen so it could help others..you know the old 'learn from others mistakes' and save a lot of pain if you know what might happen, doesn't mean it will but a heads up is really good in these matters :winkextra:
no worries mate
meditation is a proven powerful mental healer - I have both a relaxation & meditation cd here (though I keep falling asleep when I listen to it)
the meditation one is pretty good - just one for people who are living with illness - not a lily skipping middle class hippy one that you pay a fortune for in the health food shops (**giggle)
anyways, very personal chats & I appreciate that the topic police have left the conversation as is - nice to see some maturity taking place
"Life is not meant to be easy, my child; but take courage: it can be delightful."
George Bernard Shaw – English Playwright [sic], 1856-1950
(and yes, Malcom does say that he got the idea from the playright for his famous parliamentary speech!)
xx robbie
Yes a big thanks to the copper, I appreciate it :hi:
HAHA yeah not easy RG but not this bloody hard either :laugh2: but yes I think the search for delight has kept me going and it's these simple thing at this point in my life that are doing just that so thank you all :)
hehe only two RG I have heaps now for different moods I'm in, as I love the beach, storm and nature I have ocean daybreak, tropical thunderstorm, ocean secrets, salt winds, stormy seas, lighning thunder rain, babbling brook and terra australia and a lot of these I got from Big W for less than $2 each so they're pretty cheap but everyone downloads now so. But other things i listen to are things like classical and enigma to relax but basically most music as I find it umm I suppose the best word is probably "moves" me as it can make you feel all sorts of things so there's not just one word but I suppose that's pretty close :)
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='35323' dateline='1385258395'ocean daybreak, tropical thunderstorm, ocean secrets, salt winds, stormy seas, lighning thunder rain, babbling brook and terra australia
There's an app for that! Well, several I guess.
The one I use is called
Sleep Time. You fire it up, set the alarm and lay it on the bed beside your pillow. It then plays you soothing gentle waves
(for free, other sounds cost a couple shekels).
But the clever bit is it tracks your sleep, logging awake, light and deep
(REM) sleep, and of course maintains a history for later analysis. Its pretty accurate too, though it may sometimes log your awake time as light sleep or vice versa depending how much you toss and turn.
Apparently sleep is best in four hour blocks. What time of day doesn't matter, but supposedly the experts now say 8 hours is not as good as 4x2. No idea why that is, but apparently it works.
Not that I'd know... as you can tell from my timestamps, my sleep follows no pattern anyway, and may range from 2 to 12 hours, at any time of the day or night. Guess that's what retirement does to ya, eh?
There's a sleep lab at Monash hospital, which I discovered on one of my midnight walks last time I was incarcerated.. maybe I should see about checking myself in? :dodgy:
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='35345' dateline='1385282456'Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='35323' dateline='1385258395'ocean daybreak, tropical thunderstorm, ocean secrets, salt winds, stormy seas, lighning thunder rain, babbling brook and terra australia
There's an app for that! Well, several I guess.
The one I use is called Sleep Time. You fire it up, set the alarm and lay it on the bed beside your pillow. It then plays you soothing gentle waves (for free, other sounds cost a couple shekels).
But the clever bit is it tracks your sleep, logging awake, light and deep (REM) sleep, and of course maintains a history for later analysis. Its pretty accurate too, though it may sometimes log your awake time as light sleep or vice versa depending how much you toss and turn.
Apparently sleep is best in four hour blocks. What time of day doesn't matter, but supposedly the experts now say 8 hours is not as good as 4x2. No idea why that is, but apparently it works.
Not that I'd know... as you can tell from my timestamps, my sleep follows no pattern anyway, and may range from 2 to 12 hours, at any time of the day or night. Guess that's what retirement does to ya, eh?
There's a sleep lab at Monash hospital, which I discovered on one of my midnight walks last time I was incarcerated.. maybe I should see about checking myself in? :dodgy:
99% of my work is done on night shift and I do tend to sleep 4x2 and it works for me :ok:
If I sleep right through I wake up knackered , so there may be a bit of truth in their findings :angel:
8 hours sleep, what an interesting concept.
I think I sleep 14 x 30min lots. I would love a goods night sleep.
Talking about sleep patterns,i had nearly 5 years of shiftwork on Mainframes with a major Oz. Bank in the 1970's.It got to the stage i was sleeping 12-14 hours a day,sometimes more if i had the night off, and waking up tired,i(and many others) had to give it away as it was also affecting my digestive system. Dr. said i was in in a permanent state of jet lag and had to change jobs as i wasn't suited to the work so i aways feel for anyone with sleep disorders.40 years later i still ocassionly wake up in the middle of the night thinking i have to go to work so it can be a major problem.
Not that I'd know... as you can tell from my timestamps, my sleep follows no pattern anyway, and may range from 2 to 12 hours, at any time of the day or night. Guess that's what retirement does to ya, eh?
There's a sleep lab at Monash hospital, which I discovered on one of my midnight walks last time I was incarcerated.. maybe I should see about checking myself in?
yeah tell me about it Fulvio I see you up when I am and that's at all hours and don't waste your time or money with the sleep lab, been there done that costs a fortune for nothing :(
haha try being in the navy and playing war games, now that's fun when you just finish a shift then you hear the siren and it's action stations so there goes any sleep and your just buzzing for ages then you go home to garden island to start the party, yep it's a life style of it's own :winkextra:
Quote from: 'Basil' pid='35352' dateline='1385289309'shiftwork on Mainframes with a major Oz. Bank in the 1970's.
You know I'm going to have to ask which bank, right? I knew some of the guys at NAB in East Melbourne, and spent a couple of nights in there checking out their systems.
Anyway, apparently there is a right way and a wrong way to rotate shifts. IIRC, you should rotate forward, but our CC Manager at Social Security rotated them backward, with the result being everyone was jetlagged all the time. Or rather would have been if not for the fact we usually knocked off early. Production work was normally done by about 3-4am, and everyone got to go home to bed except one operator and the shift manager. Obviously this wouldn't work with a bank, as the couriers bringing in cheques would still be arriving at that hour, and encoding them took a while before they could be read in.
ANZ in North Sydney,the NAB NSW computer centre was just up the road,we used to drink with them. Yeah we used to have all the work completed by 3-5am if there was no problems,Easter.Xmas and some Friday's we would still be going at 9-10am next morning. It was a whole new era for Banking and we had major problems in many areas,the shift work was just one part of it and the extra allowance of $2(?,whatever) was a joke.
The taxi story on ACA a couple of weeks ago brought back memories,all Female staff got a free taxi home if they worked past 9.00pm and we had regular complaints of Taxi drivers,usually new Australians, coming on to the girls,free ride for sex,they would process the Cab docket for the trip but give the girls the equivalent cash.
Quote from: 'Basil' pid='35370' dateline='1385337608'we used to drink with them.
Never met a bigger buncha pisspots before or since. Seems the two main requirements for computer centre staff was a complete lack of interest in computers, and a complete lack of sobriety. I failed on both counts. ;)
Quote from: 'Basil' pid='35370' dateline='1385337608'Female staff got a free taxi home if they worked past 9.00pm
Yup, exactly the same for us, except for the sex thing. If I was being harsh, I'd say our girls were too ugly, but that would be a horrible thing to say, wouldn't it? ;)
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='35387' dateline='1385348975'Quote from: 'Basil' pid='35370' dateline='1385337608'Female staff got a free taxi home if they worked past 9.00pm
Yup, exactly the same for us, except for the sex thing. If I was being harsh, I'd say our girls were too ugly, but that would be a horrible thing to say, wouldn't it? ;)
the rapists and sexual predators don't care what the girl looks like
they just want a victim
the old sexist adage that if a woman is good looking then she deserved it
not nice at all
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='35394' dateline='1385353844'the old sexist adage that if a woman is good looking then she deserved it
not nice at all
Totally agree, RG. There's not much more abhorrent than predators, whether they pick on women, kids or blokes. String 'em up by their bits, I say!
remeber it's WHITE RIBBON DAY :)