After struggling with the taller NGC holder in the blue PCGS boxes, I cracked the coin out and sent it over to PCGS to be put in one of their holders.
Pleasantly surprised (and I jumped with joy when I found out) with the grade.
(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y484/Fr45h3R/DSC_00012_zpsf19f8809.jpg)
well I reckon that is just excellent
well done Fr45h3r
:agreed:
Why did you crack the coin to send it?
The NGC slab would not only have protected the coin in transit but more importantly you could ask that the slab be cracked only if PCGS would grade it at least at the level you expected (63-64 RD).
What if it came back at 61-62 RB because you got a grader on a bad day?
Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='31278' dateline='1381996610'Why did you crack the coin to send it?
The NGC slab would not only have protected the coin in transit but more importantly you could ask that the slab be cracked only if PCGS would grade it at least at the level you expected (63-64 RD).
What if it came back at 61-62 RB because you got a grader on a bad day?
Hi nealeffendi,
The choice to crack out from the slab was purely a cost saving measure.
It was the only NGC coin I had, and crossovers are go under a different submission type. So to save the return shipping cost I cracked it out to go in with a regular submission. When I cracked it, it went straight into a 2.5x2.5in mylar flip and then into a padded envelope to send to Drake Sterling for grading.
I know there was the risk the coin could have lost 2 or 3 points, but the few collectors who I showed the coin too agreed that it would cross as MS64RB (which is what I was expecting as well), with the possibility of it making RD.
-rob
Good one, nice looking coin too!
great looking coin ,
NGC or PCGS ?
Can anyone here list all professional Slabbing services with pros and cons?
Quote from: 'runway' pid='31320' dateline='1382009671'NGC or PCGS ?
Can anyone here list all professional Slabbing services with pros and cons?
There are hundreds, but many are self slabbers. You want to go with the third party slabbers (TPGs)and there are only 4 of any worth.
PCGS, NGC, ANACS and IGC. A few others are reputable but unknown and others have come and gone. Sometimes those coins are not even in sealed slabs but come with a little card, you might pick up a decent grade coin that way and then go get it graded by the majors.
Lots of basement slabbers have zero reputation and go with names that resemble others (like APCGS is not the Australian branch of PCGS but upstart turds selling overgraded coins).
PCGS probably has the leading reputation and you will find that their slabs bring a premium. Most of the dealers in Australia who send coins to be slabbed choose PCGS so it is best to go with the flow.
Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='31329' dateline='1382012663'Quote from: 'runway' pid='31320' dateline='1382009671'NGC or PCGS ?
Can anyone here list all professional Slabbing services with pros and cons?
There are hundreds, but many are self slabbers. You want to go with the third party slabbers (TPGs)and there are only 4 of any worth.
PCGS, NGC, ANACS and IGC. A few others are reputable but unknown and others have come and gone. Sometimes those coins are not even in sealed slabs but come with a little card, you might pick up a decent grade coin that way and then go get it graded by the majors.
Lots of basement slabbers have zero reputation and go with names that resemble others (like APCGS is not the Australian branch of PCGS but upstart turds selling overgraded coins).
PCGS probably has the leading reputation and you will find that their slabs bring a premium. Most of the dealers in Australia who send coins to be slabbed choose PCGS so it is best to go with the flow.
Thanks for that I have 10 coins I want to slab,who do I send them to?
Quote from: 'runway' pid='31330' dateline='1382015214'Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='31329' dateline='1382012663'Quote from: 'runway' pid='31320' dateline='1382009671'NGC or PCGS ?
Can anyone here list all professional Slabbing services with pros and cons?
There are hundreds, but many are self slabbers. You want to go with the third party slabbers (TPGs)and there are only 4 of any worth.
PCGS, NGC, ANACS and IGC. A few others are reputable but unknown and others have come and gone. Sometimes those coins are not even in sealed slabs but come with a little card, you might pick up a decent grade coin that way and then go get it graded by the majors.
Lots of basement slabbers have zero reputation and go with names that resemble others (like APCGS is not the Australian branch of PCGS but upstart turds selling overgraded coins).
PCGS probably has the leading reputation and you will find that their slabs bring a premium. Most of the dealers in Australia who send coins to be slabbed choose PCGS so it is best to go with the flow.
Thanks for that I have 10 coins I want to slab,who do I send them to?
It would be best to contact one of the PCGS authorised dealers such as Eric and he'd give you some advice.
Quote from: 'Fr45h3R' pid='31281' dateline='1381997488'Hi nealeffendi,
The choice to crack out from the slab was purely a cost saving measure.
It was the only NGC coin I had, and crossovers are go under a different submission type. So to save the return shipping cost I cracked it out to go in with a regular submission. When I cracked it, it went straight into a 2.5x2.5in mylar flip and then into a padded envelope to send to Drake Sterling for grading.
I know there was the risk the coin could have lost 2 or 3 points, but the few collectors who I showed the coin too agreed that it would cross as MS64RB (which is what I was expecting as well), with the possibility of it making RD.
-rob
There was no risk that the coin would lose two or three points, and PCGS does not have "bad days" where a coin is off by more than two points (maybe one, but rarely ever two). The coin was too good to begin with to lose two or three points. The worst expected would have been a 64RB.
Quote from: 'drakesterling' pid='31646' dateline='1382281595'Quote from: 'Fr45h3R' pid='31281' dateline='1381997488'Hi nealeffendi,
The choice to crack out from the slab was purely a cost saving measure.
It was the only NGC coin I had, and crossovers are go under a different submission type. So to save the return shipping cost I cracked it out to go in with a regular submission. When I cracked it, it went straight into a 2.5x2.5in mylar flip and then into a padded envelope to send to Drake Sterling for grading.
I know there was the risk the coin could have lost 2 or 3 points, but the few collectors who I showed the coin too agreed that it would cross as MS64RB (which is what I was expecting as well), with the possibility of it making RD.
-rob
There was no risk that the coin would lose two or three points, and PCGS does not have "bad days" where a coin is off by more than two points (maybe one, but rarely ever two). The coin was too good to begin with to lose two or three points. The worst expected would have been a 64RB.
PCGS is the best of the slabbers, but I have seen more than one example of coins clearly being under or over graded. That is part of the reason for gradeinflation resubmissions. They even have graders who must have fallen asleep on occasion, like when they slabbed a clearly fake '23 half (earlier this year IIRC and pullled from Heritage or some other big US auction house).
I'll still be using PCGS to slab my good stuff and I do pay a premium for them over the others.
Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='31685' dateline='1382341163'Quote from: 'drakesterling' pid='31646' dateline='1382281595'Quote from: 'Fr45h3R' pid='31281' dateline='1381997488'Hi nealeffendi,
The choice to crack out from the slab was purely a cost saving measure.
It was the only NGC coin I had, and crossovers are go under a different submission type. So to save the return shipping cost I cracked it out to go in with a regular submission. When I cracked it, it went straight into a 2.5x2.5in mylar flip and then into a padded envelope to send to Drake Sterling for grading.
I know there was the risk the coin could have lost 2 or 3 points, but the few collectors who I showed the coin too agreed that it would cross as MS64RB (which is what I was expecting as well), with the possibility of it making RD.
-rob
There was no risk that the coin would lose two or three points, and PCGS does not have "bad days" where a coin is off by more than two points (maybe one, but rarely ever two). The coin was too good to begin with to lose two or three points. The worst expected would have been a 64RB.
PCGS is the best of the slabbers, but I have seen more than one example of coins clearly being under or over graded. That is part of the reason for gradeinflation resubmissions. They even have graders who must have fallen asleep on occasion, like when they slabbed a clearly fake '23 half (earlier this year IIRC and pullled from Heritage or some other big US auction house).
I'll still be using PCGS to slab my good stuff and I do pay a premium for them over the others.
The 1923 halfpenny had been (mis)authenticated by NGC not PCGS.
I have just posted my 4 free submissions to PCGS and one of them is an NGC graded coin I removed from the slab.
It will be interesting to see how PCGS grades this coin :ok: