well I've been thinking about pulling the pin on collecting for a while now as it's only costing me money that I can't afford any more as there's bills to pay and thing I'd like to do but can't as my money is tied up and with no one wanting to buy anything and the fact that there's not any money in it unless you can play big time and this I can't keep up with so it's really starting to depress me..maybe I just need a few years away again but it does break the boardom..I'm a lost soul, due to the liberal government :(
you don't really have to have money to collect circulating coins so if you do need a break from it just collect the circulating ones but I suppose its all up to you.
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='30332' dateline='1381381009'well I've been thinking about pulling the pin on collecting for a while now as it's only costing me money that I can't afford any more as there's bills to pay and thing I'd like to do but can't as my money is tied up and with no one wanting to buy anything and the fact that there's not any money in it unless you can play big time and this I can't keep up with so it's really starting to depress me..maybe I just need a few years away again but it does break the boardom..I'm a lost soul, due to the liberal government :(
Jesus AJ you are down in the dumps Mate.
Don't worry about what everyone else is doing and just stick to collecting what YOU like.
the possibility of making a quid collecting (For Me) is simply a Pipe Dream and I suspect many other collectors know the reality that collecting isn't a good investment model, There are FAR better avenues of investment than coins.
Most of us collect simply because we get immense pleasure out of it and when it comes time for us to sell some of our "Babies" breaking even is about the best we can wish for :ok:
So cheer up old Mate, Go down the street and kick the crap out of that annoying barking dog that has been giving you the willies That will put a smile on your dial :diablo::laugh2:
same here A J , I just sold a queensland $ 10.00 proof coin
this morning in the case and all for $ 25.00 , I paid $ 44,00 for it
when they were first released . these things come with the hobby I
am sorry to say .. chin up mate , we will be down in 2 weeks time ..
,, kel ,,
:) thank you both, it's the fact that I am on DSP now and that's sweet FA and when you take that I get say like today where I got $200 in 50's and $100 in 20's but now I have about a 1/4 of most forntnightly incomes to try and get it sorted and cashed in so I can live so I have to try and do it quick and just having so much money sitting here isn't good even though most didn't cost me anything as they're from circulation so it's all been taking it toll and being in a bit of pain doesn't help either sorry but I'll be alright..and for christ sake don't tempt me trout as I get in enough trouble as it is..haven't had a visit from the boys in blue for ages :laugh2: and happy not to get any for a while either :)
cool, I could really do with that thanks Kel so I best be gettin the spare room ready :)
Sorry all I'm just sick of being kicked around for the last ten years and treated like a bit of dirt and to think I signed up to protect this country but it's not the same place any more :(
A J , spare room , ok , I can come down in the camery , or I can come down in my ute with the slide on camper no problems ,or just for fun I can come down on the greyhound bus or even by train it does not matter , we just like to try difference ways of getting around as long as we are well enough to get away . it,s all good ,in December we are going to port douglas on the dawn princess ,. but the way we are now we are not planning anything for next year yet .if we come down mid week then we can all go to the markets on the sunday at coff,s if you like , we will work it out when we get there .
take care and I will contact you again to give you dates and see if they are suitable for you and your mum .. ,, kel ,,
ah aj if we go fishing and stuff your not bringing your mummy are ya :/
when a person has been sick and in considerable pain for well over a month :(
well, it's natural to feel like crap and quite acceptable to be a downright miserable sod
your visitors will cheer you up and this will be something to look forward to as well (esp. the fishing trip without mum *giggle*)
:give_heart: you lot are bad but I love you so much and thank you all very much for tolerating me, I really do appreciate it :hi:
:laugh2: I think I just wet my self laughing so hard..nah no mum AC, we live in the same house but I've always done my own thing even as a kid..so yes I've been called a bastard child..then just got bigger..one aunty still says she should have drowned me at birth :mocking: and my nick name Jack come from when I was really little and I think it might have been my third nick name as the first two were fly feet be cause I use to escape all the time and lockness monster but Jack come from Jack the ripper and apparently I seen some show and started running around saying I was Jack the rippy and that one has stuck for over 40 years..and they are just a few names I've been called..before ya start, shut ya face belly and trout :)
PM AJ in a minute
"fly feet"
I like that one the best
I don't think kicking the dog is a good idea.
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Perhaps a bit of bird watching to soothe the soul.
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Then again a nice walk in the bush is probaly best.
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All the best AJ,you'll bounce back.
HAHA thanks Basil :winkextra:
oh and don't worry about the old girl Kel, she'll do asshe's told..hold on a sec, yes mummy..no mummy..ok mummy..all good now that she's been told today :laugh2:
I'll have to make a list one day as I've had so many nick names it's not funny, beau, aussie, mossie, Joc, ding, big bird, seal so there's a few so if anyone calls me Jayson I know they either don't know me or I'm in big trouble :winkextra:
Quote from: 'Australian coin' pid='30349' dateline='1381395718'ah aj if we go fishing and stuff your not bringing your mummy are ya :/
hey kim , am I wrong , I thought you were a married women ..
A J ,
don't let belly and trout an A C and other,s eat all the mango,s
before I get down there .. ,.
and don't you go running away fishing with A C before I get there
to your place , maybe you can come to my place and I will show you
and A C how to catch flathead ,and I have a boat that can take up
to 4 people ,so it,s all good . .. ,, kel ,,
HAHA no worries there Kel as they're about the size of a finger nail at the moment and I wouldn't be able to get them to trout due to the stupid customs and not sure if AC eats them but I know belly does as he's had an order in for a while now haven't ya mate :winkextra:
I think you'll get here before AC and I'll take you up on that offer 'cause I want to get up there real soon and would like to catch up with some others from up that way as well :good:
AJ, I've been promising friends on the gold coast to go visit for ages now. Hospitals and doctors and things kinda kept putting the trip off. But if intervention is required, I'm happy to make it sooner rather than later, and swing by to knock some sense inta ya, mate. Maybe even hire a minibus and bring the rest of the victorian mob with me. ;)
Seriously, you have to look at the forum, the hobby and the coins as three separate things. Two out of three cost you nothing but time, and the upside is the fun, friendships and knowledge you get from them.
I can understand having truckloads of spendable cash tied up. I'm a pensioner too, ya know. Why do you think I quit buying the souvenir trinkets they keep pumping out? But when you pick up a sack of coins and noodle them, the cash is only tied up for a day, longer for any you end up keeping, but you can never actually lose, unless you get robbed of course...
Heck, if the finances are that stretched, collect pics rather than the coins. Be like Rex Hunt.. catch, kiss, snap and release. Though I'm sure you could get at least a small premium on anything you find. Won't make you rich, but enough to cover costs.
PS: Finally picked up that note from the post office today. Need I remind you you're at least slightly ahead on that? Stop looking at all this from a business perspective and think of it as a hobby instead. Can you name any other hobby where you don't have to blow a ton of cash just to take part? Let alone come out slightly ahead occasionally?
I know a great "Barrä" fishing spot....
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but there is nothing like an overseas trip to brighten ones outlook...
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Thanks Fulvio but some times things aren't as simple as you might think but I hear ya mate :friends: I just made an appointment on the goldie for the 7th of next month so hopefully some good will come of it and not just keep forking out for nothing as these blokes aren't cheap.
and don't let AC see that about kissing coins..I can see her cringing right now ;)
Those Monkies remind me of my Grandkids Basil :laugh2:
:laugh2: thanks again Basil, this is what I'd do http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZh10Ez0op8 I just love cartman :)
Oh and Fulvio I was just thinking about my up coming trip and what you said about getting a bus and a few of you coming up..just make sure your passports are all in order as I wouldn't want immigration to get anyone :mocking: don't worry I have to make sure my papers are in older for when I go up as I think us roaches make the cane toads sick but I'm not too sure :laugh2: come on everyone knows about the interstate rivalry but sorry if I offended anyone :)
haha yes us illegals will invade NSW, I am busy till December, and yeah I am happy to be facebook friends with anyone from the coin forum that I have known for a while, so PM me and ill send thru the details. and AJ I got you mail today :) hehe so cute, could have thrown a joke in there too :P
sorry mate but I was in a bit of a rush and thought of a few other things I should have put in but it's a bit hard when it was on it's way but I hope you like it and that it done the job :give_rose: And I'll do a joke one for ya..maybe something like a nice big box with nothing in it :laugh2:
Passports? I've never had a problem with those. My biggest problem is getting the DeLorean up to 88mph for the trip back to SA or QLD. ;)
:laugh2: yep, back to the future..I like that one :good:
Quote..maybe something like a nice big box with nothing in it Laugh2
You could always send a picture of yer Noggin mate HaHa :diablo::laugh2:
Sorry Mate I just couldn't resist that one :)
I don't care what you say as I know I'm beautiful and I don't want to freak her out :laugh2:
HI Ausjack,
I'd like to add my support to all the positive replies you have received since posting "pulling the pin." That saying has much darker connotations and we don't want you going down that path! As someone who has been on medication for over 20 years I know a bit about depression. On my father's side we have a rare gene that makes (mainly males) produce to much adrenaline. I have to take between 15omg and 300mg of Zolift a day - depending on the alignment of the planets. Good on you for having the guts to say how you feel. A lot more people should follow your lead.
Since Jeff Kennett (yes I know he's a Liberal) got involved in Beyond Blue I have become more knowledgeable about the disease and these days I don't give a stuff about who knows about my own situation.
I think you have been well rewarded for your honestly. It was very uplifting to see how much support you have received from other forum members. The fact that some of them are prepared to get in their cars and see you in person is remarkable and even if you are a cranky old bugger you must feel pretty good about yourself after some of the comments posted on the forum.
As a few of the members suggested, the great thing about coin collecting that you can start with whatever's in your pocket. I liked the suggestion that you get some change from the bank, look through it and rebank it.
My son started doing this with $1 coins after I once got handed a 2000 Mule $1 when I bought him a milk shake after school. He couldn't believe that I got $450 for it at a coin fair at Bathurst just a week later.
He's now 21 and if you think coin collecting can be expensive, you should try motor racing. Lachlan now works 6 and a half days a week and every cent goes into his Aussie car. We'll be racing this weekend as a support group to the V8's at the Gold Coast. One of the races will be televised on Channel 10 so keep a look out for Number 14. Sponsored by Netapp computers.
Opps, sorry, got a bit side tracked there! Obviously I'm very proud of him.
Anyway Ausjack, keep your chin up and keep us up to date about how you are travelling. I know it's easy to say but the old saying that there's always some else worse off is true .... but doesn't help!
You really realise just how well off we are when you see what the average joe in the street is going through in Syria. At least we don't have to say goodbye to our families (just in case) when you want to go down the street for a loaf of bread).
Get yourself a fist full of $1 coins from the bank and let us know if you find a mule ... it can be done!
Take care and good luck
Regards
GregMcDonald
Quote from: 'Greg McDonald' pid='31671' dateline='1382332353'if you think coin collecting can be expensive, you should try motor racing.
Or just about any other hobby, come to think of it. I watched a fortune in model railroad gear go up in smoke when the club (or rather the church above it) burnt down a few decades ago. And I have friends who chase silly little balls around in the grass... or feed the fish by throwing expensive bits of string in the water from even more expensive boats...
As I keep telling people, the only cost if you noodle your change is the loss of interest you might have earned from the bank. It makes this a very, very cheap hobby indeed.
As for Jeff Kennett, I must say my respect for him went through the roof after Beyond Blue. I met him early in his career, and frankly thought he was a dickhead with foot in mouth disease. He didn't do much to change that opinion while he was in politics, but now I see him in a totally different and much more favourable light.
Depression is an almost unavoidable feature of our modern lives I think. Therefore, those who haven't been through it probably just need to wait a while.. its like falling off a motorcycle.. pretty much every rider either has, or will. ;)
Good luck with the race Greg. Mind you, if he wins you may just burst with pride. ;)
Greg, I have nearly lost my son (who is 23 years old now) from the 'black dog' on 3 occasions
it is cruel
and not a modern illness by any means
and it can kill
I have watched family members sink into the pit of depression and you (well, me) feel helpless and 'locked out' as it is such a very solitary and personal experience
but there is help and education out there and family can help so much more than what they realise
my son has told us that it was our love and stubborn determination that helped to drag him through life and over to a 'brighter' space where he is now and we take it day by day and are blessed day by day for still having him in our lives
man therapy link
http://www.beyondblue.org.au/
Gee, thank you very much Greg I really appreciate your kind words and for sharing mate as it's these small gestures that I find do make a difference and if we can make some part of our world just a little better it's a start to bigger things and would make me a very happy to see the world get it together as I know we can do better because all you have to do is have a look here at this small group and the love and friendship that is here, it really is amazing and it's great to have such great friends :friends:
And thank you Fulvio and RG for sharing as it takes guts to talk about and how it effects us and loved one's but if we don't I feel things are only going to get worse so I take my hat off to all, thank you :hi: :heart:
watching the race, hope your team goes well Greg :) Lucky he missed the crash at the start, cool little cars :good:
AJ and Maccas I hear ya
Thanks runway, I think talking about it is ok and if we don't make it ok and keep trying to sweep it under the rug more people will get hurt both the person suffering from depression as well as the people around them and it's our loved one's that cop the brunt of it the most so they need support as much as the sufferer does..well that's my experience anyway, oh and after many years and all sorts of their medication I find having nice people around me works far better and cheaper than meds as they don't seem to work on me and if anything makes me worse..so for all the other sufferers, chin up and one step at a time :friends: and to the supporters, I thank you for your help as I know how hard it can be to ask for help and then to recieve as well so I take my hat of to you :hi:
Keep the dream alive :angel:
:heart:
sometimes the 'FF and T' treatment can be the best
family
friends
talk about it
Absolutely Robbiegal!
However different things are good and suitable for different people at different times.
I have seen people state "the drugs dont work and are bad" when maybe they should have said "the drugs I have been recommended don't work for ME".
I believe that some people would be on suitable drugs and stopping taking them would be a bad thing.
AJ I am very happy that things are going well for you and you have all your friends here behind you..
agree AC
the most proven 'evidence based' therapeutic is the combination of the (usually) SSRI's (Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors) and the talking therapies such as cognitive behaviour therapy (CBT)
although the CBT on it's own is a proven therapeutic
many people do get unpleasant side effects from anti-depressants (fatigue, vagueness, nausea and even anxiety, and of course for both the blokes & the ladies some dulling of the pleasure principle ** wink** the bedroom)
but for some - a 3- 6 months program can helps to drag a person out of the blues and get them back on track
I have a friend who gets cyclical 'endogenous depression' - which means her body chemistry gets out of wack and she said it has been a lifetime battle but she has accepted now that when the depression cycle kicks in - she does need to take the anti- depressants to get through it
other depression is 'exogenous' and that is caused by things that happen and create a 'reactive depression' - grief and loss is a classic, losing a job, losing a part of your health , marriage bust up and so on. a person gets down and miserable and if they stay too down and too miserable for too long then a depression can set in. where I work we see a lot of reactive depressions from health problems that cause other problems in the persons' life etc
and yes, if a person is on SSRI's - never ever suddenly stop as the brain needs a gradual withdrawal to start manufacturing it's own supply of serotonin again.
there are academic arguments about the use of anti-depressants especially for under 20 years of age group, so getting a good therapist to review and evaluate the type of depression is the better first thing to do rather than give a young person pills
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='33347' dateline='1383426383'Thanks runway, I think talking about it is ok and if we don't make it ok and keep trying to sweep it under the rug more people will get hurt both the person suffering from depression as well as the people around them and it's our loved one's that cop the brunt of it the most so they need support as much as the sufferer does..well that's my experience anyway, oh and after many years and all sorts of their medication I find having nice people around me works far better and cheaper than meds as they don't seem to work on me and if anything makes me worse..so for all the other sufferers, chin up and one step at a time :friends: and to the supporters, I thank you for your help as I know how hard it can be to ask for help and then to recieve as well so I take my hat of to you :hi:
Well said mate
Keep the dream alive :angel: