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Australian Coins, Banknotes and Exonumia => Australian Pre-Decimal Coins => Topic started by: Basil on September 14, 2013, 11:45:46 AM

Title: 1938 Crown...Genuine????
Post by: Basil on September 14, 2013, 11:45:46 AM
Photo's aren't the best but this Crown,although the HP is intact, seems to have the big nose & mouth gape of the latest fakes doing the rounds!Any Thoughts...

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Australian-1938-Crown-EF-Condition-/231054115577?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item35cbe602f9&_uhb=1
Title: RE: 1938 Crown...Genuine????
Post by: ausjack on September 14, 2013, 11:59:43 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWwOJlOI1nU the feedback is enough to put me off
Title: RE: 1938 Crown...Genuine????
Post by: accumulator on September 14, 2013, 12:06:14 PM
Hi Basil, I think your spot on,the nose in particular is wrong.
Title: RE: 1938 Crown...Genuine????
Post by: wwwww on September 14, 2013, 12:13:50 PM
Fake, took less than a second looking at the obverse.
Title: RE: 1938 Crown...Genuine????
Post by: echidna on September 14, 2013, 12:16:20 PM
I'm always suspicious of sellers who have sold lots of high grade 38 crowns like this guy.
My guess is that they use unclear photos on purpose and then send a fake instead.
Title: RE: 1938 Crown...Genuine????
Post by: r9453 on September 14, 2013, 12:17:26 PM
The same seller has a Dansco Album (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Completed-Australian-Dansco-Penny-Album-1911-1964-Very-high-grade/231051376452?ssPageName=WDVW&rd=1&ih=013&category=170827&cmd=ViewItem) complete with a '1930' penny.
Title: RE: 1938 Crown...Genuine????
Post by: Steveqld on September 14, 2013, 12:28:28 PM
Quote from: 'r9453' pid='28143' dateline='1379126846'The same seller has a Dansco Album (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Completed-Australian-Dansco-Penny-Album-1911-1964-Very-high-grade/231051376452?ssPageName=WDVW&rd=1&ih=013&category=170827&cmd=ViewItem) complete with a '1930' penny.

He does state in the text that the 1930 is a date change.
Title: RE: 1938 Crown...Genuine????
Post by: Unicorn on September 14, 2013, 12:32:06 PM
True he does Steve. IMO it's a chinese copy one rather than a date change, still he does mention it's not real.
Title: RE: 1938 Crown...Genuine????
Post by: r9453 on September 14, 2013, 12:32:35 PM
Oops my bad I didn't see that at first but good to know the 1946 is EF+
Title: RE: 1938 Crown...Genuine????
Post by: Unicorn on September 14, 2013, 12:34:19 PM
Not sure about that 1925 ....... 2 looks a bit odd, could be the pic or my eyes.
Title: RE: 1938 Crown...Genuine????
Post by: Fordprefect on September 14, 2013, 12:38:20 PM
Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='28150' dateline='1379127859'Not sure about that 1925 ....... 2 looks a bit odd, could be the pic or my eyes.
Dud chinese.
Given the odds, the '46 is probably a dud as well.:angel:
Title: RE: 1938 Crown...Genuine????
Post by: echidna on September 14, 2013, 12:38:31 PM
Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='28150' dateline='1379127859'Not sure about that 1925 ....... 2 looks a bit odd, could be the pic or my eyes.

The 25 penny is a chinese fake
Title: RE: 1938 Crown...Genuine????
Post by: runway on September 14, 2013, 11:26:41 PM
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1938-CROWN-AUSTRALIAN-COMMEMORATIVE-RE-STRIKE-UNCIRCULATED-CONDITION/261238274949?rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D163%26meid%3D1282415632747301449%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D1088%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D231054115577%26

Off topic but check this out wtf?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2001-20c-VICTORIA-Centenary-Federation-Error-Coin-High-Grade/331017951831?rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D163%26meid%3D1282489578599268000%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D1088%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D300963209251%26
Title: RE: 1938 Crown...Genuine????
Post by: Australian coin on September 15, 2013, 04:20:23 PM
the 2001 20c vic coins I get usually have some sort of the same thing going on, I sell the for the normal $1 on eBay, not enough to be an error, it more like a off centre or something, but not enough to be interesting, the 50c feds also have double edges too no biggie
Title: RE: 1938 Crown...Genuine????
Post by: Fulvio on September 15, 2013, 06:04:38 PM
There are quite a lot of errors on all the state coins. But I wouldn't count that as significant enough to count.
Title: RE: 1938 Crown...Genuine????
Post by: runway on September 15, 2013, 07:56:11 PM
I have seen ebay sellers selling a mule like $2 coin :(
Title: RE: 1938 Crown...Genuine????
Post by: Fulvio on September 15, 2013, 08:51:26 PM
Quote from: 'runway' pid='28313' dateline='1379240771'mule like

Jeez I hate that term. Its got shyster written all over it.

Either its a mule, or it isn't. And $2's aren't. These bastids are simply trying to cheat people.
Title: RE: 1938 Crown...Genuine????
Post by: Basil on October 03, 2013, 07:27:55 AM
Another Crown i'm not sure of..1937 with die crack/flaw thru 'O' of George and no HP or K.G,i haven't seen a Coin like this(if genuine) before.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1937-1-Crown-Commonwealth-Of-AuStralia-Coin-/140931169779?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item20d026fdf3
Title: RE: 1938 Crown...Genuine????
Post by: nealeffendi on October 03, 2013, 10:05:16 AM
The feedback of the seller is a red flag, sometimes the sellers are unlucky and get a few negative feedbacks from a single buyer; but in this case there are 4 different buyers involved including from someone buying a AUnc 1938. That clinches it for me that the seller is not someone to risk buying the coin from.
Title: RE: 1938 Crown...Genuine????
Post by: trout on October 03, 2013, 10:26:51 AM
Quote from: 'Basil' pid='29771' dateline='1380751075'Another Crown i'm not sure of..1937 with die crack/flaw thru 'O' of George and no HP or K.G,i haven't seen a Coin like this(if genuine) before.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1937-1-Crown-Commonwealth-Of-AuStralia-Coin-/140931169779?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item20d026fdf3

This one just looks ALL wrong to me :ok: