Poll
Question:
Are you an Algebraic or a Reverse polish person?
Option 1: . addslashes($options[$i]) . "
votes: 5
Option 2: . addslashes($options[$i]) . "
votes: 2
If you don't understand the question best you quietly leave this thread now!
I never got reverse Polish but I can remember a couple of people back in high school who were whizzes on RP calculators.
I've used one for years.-John
ok
i'm leaving
:sportbike:
quietly
Any chance you can swing by and pick me up.!!!
Lol Robster and RG ......
Robster, RG should be there in around 4 6 + hours
:tease:
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I thought algebraic was called infix.
Anyway, Reverse Polish Notation is great for first year university programming assignments.
Quote from: 'Mister T' pid='26888' dateline='1378202871'Reverse Polish Notation is great for first year university programming assignments.
That's because RPN is the way computers work. You load your variables and only then can you perform an operation on them. Which is all fine and wonderful when dealing with a program.
But when I pick up a calculator, I don't want to think like I do when I'm programming. I just want a quick and dirty answer, and I want it now.
So I'll happily leave RPN to the engineers and wannabe-programmers I reckon. :)
Mind you, in the interests of full disclosure, I have to admit to building a spreadsheet just to add up a bunch of numbers on more than one occasion... :dodgy:
What in the devil's name are you lot talking about.
I'm catching the first bus outa here. Do I have to hail the driver or what?
Tried and true for over 30 years (and it looks it!). I wasn't a programmer wannabe. I did program a computer for over 40 years.-John
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='26897' dateline='1378215415'What in the devil's name are you lot talking about.
Goldy,
Reverse Polish Notation is when you write notes backwards using a polish sausage. Yeah, I know its a bit high-tech, but you can learn all about it on wikipedia. :angel:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Kielbasas.jpg/300px-Kielbasas.jpg)
Quote from: 'triplewitch' pid='26899' dateline='1378217581'Tried and true for over 30 years (and it looks it!). I wasn't a programmer wannabe. I did program a computer for over 40 years.-John
I had a 41C, which taught me, among other things, that its a
very bad idea to leave a rechargeable device plugged in 24/7. I ended up with an
UNchargeable desk calculator with a power cord embedded in the bottom. :(
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='26890' dateline='1378206026'So I'll happily leave RPN to the engineers
Perhaps I mixed in the wrong circles but when I was actually using my engineering degree (1994 through 2007) I can recall exactly no-one using an RP calculator. Before this thread was posted I doubt I had ever thought about RP since I left high school.
All I have now is a yearning for some sauerkraut to go with the wurst.!! :-/
I still have my slide rule from when I did my engineering degree!
But, boy did we latch onto HP calculators when they became affordable. Some other companies dabbled in RPN models but that didn't last long -not a big enough market.
And, HP later started making dual Algebraic and RPN units (had an "=" key)...sacrilege.
I currently own (and regularly use) a 48G+ and a 33S. Now why did HP change key layouts between models? Have to look to find the right key sometimes because locations vary relative to the number pad.
And, these later models have too many features that I never use. I would happily return to an 11C if I could find one that the keyswitches haven't given up the ghost.
The 12C still comes out every couple of years. Every one has been lower in price than the previous one so far. The outward appearance is the same, so the internals must have been updated somehow. -John
ah the old slide rule trick ...
what about using chambers 7 figure log tables !!! to do survey calcs
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='26920' dateline='1378258425'I still have my slide rule from when I did my engineering degree!
Ah, memories.. I still have mine around someplace, probably next to my dial caliper. Which is likely in a sub-basement in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying
'Beware of the Leopard' :dodgy:
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='26920' dateline='1378258425'Now why did HP change key layouts between models?
Probably had something to do with being taken over, and somewhat losing the plot. HP used to be a truly awesome outfit back in the day... I remember needing a pair of sunnies when poking around inside their minis, because the entire boards were gold plated
(not just the edge connectors). Ah, memories.... :angel:
Oh, and log tables..
*SHUDDER* .. brings back lots of bad memories of certain teachers. :(
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='26904' dateline='1378227005'Goldy, Reverse Polish Notation is when you write notes backwards using a polish sausage. Yeah, I know its a bit high-tech, but you can learn all about it on wikipedia.
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/rps.png)
A lot of civil engineers I worked with (from 1983 to 2010) used HP calculators. I always used machines like the Sharp PC1300 and later on the HP 200LX. After I retired I bought a HP 48GLX graphing calculator which I was able to drive.
Quote from: 'Robster' pid='26918' dateline='1378257541'All I have now is a yearning for some sauerkraut to go with the wurst.!! :-/
You need to find that Weinerbago that's in town Robster.
? ? ? ? ?
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='26951' dateline='1378295196'? ? ? ? ?
Poor Goldy... don't worry mate, we'll train ya... we'll have ya up to speed on an abacus in no time flat. :)
Nice to have a post where everyone can be involved regardless of the subject.!!:blink:
UH? Me no understandie...........
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='26994' dateline='1378359607'UH? Me no understandie...........
Me neiver Mate ?????
It's all totally underconstumbable if you ask me, but please don't ask me. :whistle2:
It's one of those things that you either 'get' or you don't.-John
Me no get full stop.
Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='27024' dateline='1378382872'It's all totally underconstumbable if you ask me, but please don't ask me. :whistle2:
Nevol, are you claiming 'plausible deniability'?
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='27034' dateline='1378384247'Me no get full stop.
A full stop is that thing you put after the word stop.
. <-- This thing, see?
Now you get full stop? :)
If you don't get it then don't view the following link. It will just confuse you.
If you get it then you won't need to check the link.
Reverse Polish notation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_Polish_notation)
And not a sausage in sight.
Today's fact. If your calculator has an "=" key it is algebraic. If it has an "ENTER" key then it is Reverse polish Notation. If it has both -they do exist- and you know how to use it then you need help; you almost certainly are suffering from a multiple personality syndrome.
Quote from: 'r9453' pid='27037' dateline='1378385067'Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='27024' dateline='1378382872'It's all totally underconstumbable if you ask me, but please don't ask me. :whistle2:
Nevol, are you claiming 'plausible deniability'?
Yeah, something like that.
QuoteIf your calculator has an "=" key it is algebraic. If it has an "ENTER" key then it is Reverse polish Notation.
My default calculator is Excel, so I can see all the entries I make if the answer is not what I expect it to be. :blum3:
QuoteMy default calculator is Excel, so I can see all the entries I make if the answer is not what I expect it to be.
Ah! You can come out of the closet now Nancy -that is effectively Reverse Polish. :taunt:
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='27056' dateline='1378405874'And not a sausage in sight.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1208550_593410864050831_1505153125_n.jpg)
It all adds up to "Yummy". :angel:
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='27056' dateline='1378405874'If you get it then you won't need to check the link.
Yeah you do, if only for the awesome hat.
*WANT*!
Yes,
I thought that hat was fantastic; a real collectors' item. Might have to keep an eye out on eBay for one.
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='27073' dateline='1378422213'Might have to keep an eye out on eBay for one.
Or two. :angel:
If I find a suitable candidate hat I might dig out my old screen print outfit and recreate it.
QuoteYeah you do, if only for the awesome hat
Is that a coin carefully sewn into the rim of that cap?
(Looks like it's been cleaned, you can see the reverse polished).
Sorry ....... it's Friday.
PPH: Love the Wienerbago stall ...... and next weeks special!!!!
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='27077' dateline='1378422641'If I find a suitable candidate hat I might dig out my old screen print outfit and recreate it.
Its a railroad engineer's
(US train driver) hat. They usually come in blue and white stripes or grey checks.
http://www.zazzle.com.au/reverse_polish_notation_red_heart_hat-148483904667201608
http://www.cafepress.co.uk/mf/78558805/i-love-reverse-polish-notation_tshirt
:)
Baseball caps. Quite different.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/A1XFZh%2BoTpL._SX522_.jpg)
Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='27080' dateline='1378423968'QuoteYeah you do, if only for the awesome hat
Is that a coin carefully sewn into the rim of that cap?
(Looks like it's been cleaned, you can see the reverse polished).
Sorry ....... it's Friday.
PPH: Love the Wienerbago stall ...... and next weeks special!!!!
Probably give you "Gas'. :angel:
Touche Robster!!!!
Quote from: 'Robster' pid='27088' dateline='1378428208'Probably give you "Gas'. :angel:
NO SMOKING
CAUTION: Do not consume near naked flame.
Best not to burp or pass wind either. :angel:
Two Hindenburg-class airships, special forces, lettuce, cheese, static, hydrogen – on a sulphur fused bomb.
Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='27095' dateline='1378429096'Two Hindenburg-class airships, special forces, lettuce, cheese, static, hydrogen – on a sulphur fused bomb.
Memorable moments in "Hot Dog History". :shok:
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='27066' dateline='1378420741'Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='27056' dateline='1378405874'And not a sausage in sight.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1208550_593410864050831_1505153125_n.jpg)
News just to hand .........
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11067/wurst.jpg)
A clear case of a Sour Kraut.!! :dance2:
Quote from: 'Robster' pid='28084' dateline='1379062828'A clear case of a Sour Kraut.!! :dance2:
Call me a dumb bunny or whatever , I still have absolutely NO idea of what you blokes are talking about :angel:
Quote from: 'trout' pid='28090' dateline='1379068195'Call me a dumb bunny or whatever , I still have absolutely NO idea of what you blokes are talking about :angel:
You're no :angel: trouble - I went to type troutski but the ipad suggested trouble so why argue?
It's a bit like the difference between beta & VHS only it's more serious than that.
No idea actually I could google it but keep it going