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Numismatic Discussion => Coin Chit Chat => Topic started by: enworb on August 20, 2013, 07:59:23 PM

Title: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: enworb on August 20, 2013, 07:59:23 PM
Gotta be shane williams right? Ive called it we'll see what happens. I'll look like a complete knob if im wrong :angel:

http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=156277&
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: Fulvio on August 20, 2013, 08:09:53 PM
Gutsy move... I wouldn't have said that, even if I was almost certain. Good luck.
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: enworb on August 20, 2013, 08:13:37 PM
Yeh i thought better an deleted the post. Might email the mods though. Its pretty brazen if it is him.
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: Fulvio on August 20, 2013, 08:18:34 PM
Quote from: 'enworb' pid='25614' dateline='1376995417'Yeh i thought better an deleted the post. Might email the mods though. Its pretty brazen if it is him.

They'll surely be able to find out. :)
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: ausjack on August 20, 2013, 08:19:25 PM
I've gotta start my own :)
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: accumulator on August 20, 2013, 08:29:39 PM
Quote from: 'enworb' pid='25604' dateline='1376994563'Gotta be shane williams right? Ive called it we'll see what happens. I'll look like a complete knob if im wrong :angel:

http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=156277&

I'd pretty confidently stand behind you on that one mate,especially seeing the last post on that thread,most posters can't change the style they post in even if they do change their ID.
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: enworb on August 20, 2013, 08:33:03 PM
Ive just flicked a brief email to the mods. If they want more proof then i'll write it all up.
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: Unicorn on August 20, 2013, 08:43:02 PM
Geez, if it's not the owner then it's all outstandingly coincidental.

With a user name like llvllrshane (which I make out to be Mr Shane) and all the fluff about a new logo, then I reckon you're on the money.
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: enworb on August 20, 2013, 08:46:02 PM
I like a punt every now and then and i reckon this is pretty close to a sure thing
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: Unicorn on August 20, 2013, 09:07:52 PM
It's almost embarrassing to read Mr Shane's response to Sap. Oh dear, Enworb, I think it would be like betting on Black Caviar.
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: enworb on August 20, 2013, 09:11:07 PM
I know. You get that cringing feeling as you read each word.
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: stevo1962 on August 20, 2013, 09:16:14 PM
Quote from: 'enworb' pid='25604' dateline='1376994563'Gotta be shane williams right? Ive called it we'll see what happens. I'll look like a complete knob if im wrong :angel:

http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=156277&

I was thinking exactly the same thing as soon as I read his posts.He's just fishing for information
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: Fulvio on August 20, 2013, 09:39:43 PM
Figured I may as well stick an oar in, and posted this:

The choice of a name is a pretty important thing. Just ask any of the companies which have ridden on the coat-tails of an established major player, or the said majors who've had their identities usurped. In this instance it would have made a LOT more sense to not alienate most of a small market by being so blatant about it, as Sap says. And not having the skills to do the job properly makes the whole excercise a borderline con anyway.

Even without passing coins off as better than they really are, there is a financial reward for the associated vendor. By removing most, if not all of the grading fees, more profit can be made from those buyers who are fooled. If they're overgraded as well, then, the word "scam" comes to mind.

None of us are going to buy this rubbish, but as we see on eBay every day, the world is full of woodducks. :(


Now to go bandage my tongue where I was biting it as I wrote that. ;)
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: Ozcoins on August 21, 2013, 07:20:14 AM
I have wondered if it was all the same "Shane" previously.
I think Shane Williams posted on CCF about the idea of an Australian TPG.
I actually thought it would all have come to light by now.
Will be interesting to see how this turns out.
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: ausjack on August 21, 2013, 07:38:49 AM
I wonder http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACA-aigDYJg

so http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-pywHFUbGw
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: enworb on August 21, 2013, 11:45:54 AM
It is definitely all the same dodgy theiving shane.
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: ausjack on August 21, 2013, 11:52:22 AM
:laugh2: I shouldn't laugh but go MB :winkextra:
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: markn on August 21, 2013, 11:56:05 AM
Quote from: 'enworb' pid='25684' dateline='1377051354'It is definitely all the same dodgy theiving shane.

He must be running his posts through a spell checker.  Sadly his use of "there" instead of "their" is something he hasn't caught up with yet.  It's all rather hilarious.
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: Fulvio on August 21, 2013, 04:23:42 PM
Quote from: 'markn' pid='25686' dateline='1377051965'Sadly his use of "there" instead of "their" is something he hasn't caught up with yet.  It's all rather hilarious.

...And sad. The decline of Ye Olde Englishe as she was writ surely has many scholars turning in their graves. I remember one particular English teacher.... ah, but I digress...

:angel:
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: Unicorn on August 22, 2013, 12:51:36 AM
Well it looks like that goose is cooked !  :yahoo:

To quote Derryn Hinch ......

Shane APCGS Shane!

Bowled Enworb, caught Sap ...... bandaged tongue Fulvio!
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: Sapyx on August 22, 2013, 11:09:39 PM
Now, if any of you blokes want to start up a genuine Australian TPG using any of the names I suggested in that thread, be my guest. They're all free and available, as far as I know. Just remember who first suggested them. :mafia:
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: Fulvio on August 22, 2013, 11:17:30 PM
Quote from: 'Sapyx' pid='25937' dateline='1377178779'Now, if any of you blokes want to start up a genuine Australian TPG

What, do we look crazy? (http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/images/icon_smile_roflmao.gif)
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: trout on August 23, 2013, 07:19:01 AM
I got an email from this Mob, How on earth did they get my email address :dash1:
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: purplepennyhunter on August 23, 2013, 08:18:47 AM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='25945' dateline='1377208141'I got an email from this Mob, How on earth did they get my email address :dash1:

Was it signed "from Shane" ?
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: trout on August 23, 2013, 09:13:30 AM
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='25950' dateline='1377211727'
Quote from: 'trout' pid='25945' dateline='1377208141'I got an email from this Mob, How on earth did they get my email address :dash1:

Was it signed "from Shane" ?

No this was the signature

Regards Emma
APCGS CEO
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: robbiegal on August 23, 2013, 10:10:47 AM
whenever there are CEO's or Directors in small business
it's is often also a crappy small business
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: enworb on August 23, 2013, 10:17:43 AM
I wouldnt believe that signature at all. It seems too coincidental that as Shane Williams is exposed as APCGS on CCF an email comes out one day later with a new name. Seems like theyre trying to throw people off the scent (stench?) of the trail.
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: markn on August 23, 2013, 10:24:17 AM
Quote from: 'enworb' pid='25960' dateline='1377218863'I wouldnt believe that signature at all. It seems too coincidental that as Shane Williams is exposed as APCGS on CCF an email comes out one day later with a new name. Seems like theyre trying to throw people off the scent (stench?) of the trail.

I spent some time looking at the business registration documents of APCGS a while back and I think you'll find that an Emma registered the business name or the ABN.  I don't recall which.  So not a new name in APCGS circles.
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: JeffH on August 23, 2013, 10:28:55 AM
Quotewhenever there are CEO's or Directors in small business
it's is often also a crappy small business

I sometimes sign my business correspondence "Jeff Henningham, proprietor". Usually just "Jeff" though. I have never said "Proprietor and sole employee" although that is true.
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: Unicorn on August 23, 2013, 10:32:54 AM
Yes, Mark it was an Emma Hall from memory (was going to use a 'relation to Ben Hall' pun at one stage).

That's what also made me think Shane & Emma may likely be a couple. Which in turn made me think that Stanthorpe Shane was perhaps a different person (the email address Enworb posted had a different name, perhaps shane & melissa, I can't remember exactly .... too many tablets.)
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: wwwww on August 23, 2013, 10:34:24 AM
Emma is confused, she's not a CEO. APCGS is a trading name, not a company.
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: markn on August 23, 2013, 10:36:16 AM
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='25963' dateline='1377219535'
Quotewhenever there are CEO's or Directors in small business
it's is often also a crappy small business

I sometimes sign my business correspondence "Jeff Henningham, proprietor". Usually just "Jeff" though. I have never said "Proprietor and sole employee" although that is true.

I usually sign my correspondence "Mark Chief Cook and Bottle Washer".
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: Unicorn on August 23, 2013, 10:38:31 AM
:laugh2: Mark .....

Now there's an oldie .....
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: robbiegal on August 23, 2013, 11:38:18 AM
where I work
we have one CEO

and she the chick in charge of well over a thousand workers
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: Fulvio on August 23, 2013, 04:58:21 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='25977' dateline='1377223698'we have one CEO

Well, yeah, you would. One being the requisite number.

A company may have a CEO, usually when he/she isn't a director.
Or it may have an MD (Managing Director), which is more usual in small outfits with one or two directors.

People use CEO inappropriately because they think it sounds grander. It doesn't really, since it just means you're a hired gun with no real stake or say in the company. The real power rests with the Board of Directors, and the Chairman of the Board, who may or may not also run the company on a day to day basis. If he does, he's an MD. If not, and some employee does it, that person is a CEO.

But either way, there's one and only one head honcho. Who may or may not have a boss to answer to. ;)

And for businesses that aren't incorporated, none of this applies anyway. :)
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: trout on August 23, 2013, 05:02:29 PM
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='25990' dateline='1377242901'
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='25977' dateline='1377223698'we have one CEO

Well, yeah, you would. One being the requisite number.

A company may have a CEO, usually when he/she isn't a director.
Or it may have an MD (Managing Director), which is more usual in small outfits with one or two directors.

People use CEO inappropriately because they think it sounds grander. It doesn't really, since it just means you're a hired gun with no real stake or say in the company. The real power rests with the Board of Directors, and the Chairman of the Board, who may or may not also run the company on a day to day basis. If he does, he's an MD. If not, and some employee does it, that person is a CEO.

But either way, there's one and only one head honcho. Who may or may not have a boss to answer to. ;)

And for businesses that aren't incorporated, none of this applies anyway. :)

I think the CEO tag is appropriate , Matches the pretentions of their slabs perfectly :laugh2:
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: Robster on August 24, 2013, 11:35:52 AM
Have just returned home from a week away with Mrs. Robster and have caught up with all the forum gossip.! I really missed all the action about A.P.C.G.S. :dodgy: Derryn Hinch would simply say ("Shane,Shane,Shane.").
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: purplepennyhunter on August 24, 2013, 12:06:49 PM
:laugh2::laugh2:
Title: RE: APCGS Saga continues
Post by: keldaw on August 24, 2013, 08:22:02 PM
derryn hinch is a loud mouth idiot ,..    ,, kel ,,