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Australian Coins, Banknotes and Exonumia => Australian Pre-Decimal Coins => Topic started by: black sheep on August 16, 2013, 04:09:37 PM

Title: Another Fake Star Shilling...right ???
Post by: black sheep on August 16, 2013, 04:09:37 PM
Gday,
I did end up getting my money back on the fake 21 shilling and am looking around for a good coin. This one seems to have the same traits as the fake I purchased.

What do you reckon ??
cheers:winkextra:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1921-Shilling-/130968629935?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item1e7e56b2af
Title: RE: Another Fake Star Shilling...right ???
Post by: Fr45h3R on August 16, 2013, 04:53:00 PM
All 3 of his coins I saw last night are fakes.
Title: RE: Another Fake Star Shilling...right ???
Post by: Robster on August 16, 2013, 04:54:01 PM
the roo looks too 'excited' and definitely 'scrubbed'. imo.
Title: RE: Another Fake Star Shilling...right ???
Post by: Basil on August 17, 2013, 09:56:56 AM
Quote from: 'Fr45h3R' pid='25166' dateline='1376637780'All 3 of his coins I saw last night are fakes.

Not sure about the the 38 Crown,it doesn't seem right but i can't put my finger on it besides Patina & wonky HP.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1938-Australian-Crown-/130968627372?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item1e7e56a8ac&_uhb=1
Title: RE: Another Fake Star Shilling...right ???
Post by: robbiegal on August 17, 2013, 10:13:14 AM
gee
you'd really have to know what you're looking at to spot that '38 as a fake
the rim edge failure is inconsistent with these crowns and the somewhat larger king's nose is the only indicator to me & I have over time owned a quite few of these coins

I do have a fake one here but it's pretty obvious - which is fun for a fake
but genuine counterfeits being flogged off as the real deal - well that  is a different criminal offence story
might take a pic of my daggy fake if I can find it
Title: RE: Another Fake Star Shilling...right ???
Post by: Fr45h3R on August 17, 2013, 10:30:52 AM
To be honest, with the other 2 coins being fake, I just assumed this one was too.
I know you shouldn't assume.

Looking at the obverse, it looks almost like a cast coin ?
Title: RE: Another Fake Star Shilling...right ???
Post by: black sheep on August 17, 2013, 11:27:42 AM
Thanks guys
once bitten twice shy :dodgy:
Title: RE: Another Fake Star Shilling...right ???
Post by: bellyflorin on August 17, 2013, 11:47:10 AM
Quote from: 'black sheep' pid='25247' dateline='1376704662'Thanks guys
once bitten twice shy :dodgy:

the seller is a sly muppet  i messaged him and his care factor is zero , so  i have reported his 34/35 florin and the shilling ,   i hope  other forum members  do the same
Title: RE: Another Fake Star Shilling...right ???
Post by: Fulvio on August 17, 2013, 04:31:22 PM
Quote from: 'bellyflorin' pid='25254' dateline='1376705830'the seller is a sly muppet  i messaged him and his care factor is zero , so  i have reported his 34/35 florin and the shilling ,   i hope  other forum members  do the same

Done. The Crown too, after comparing it to the PCGS graded one. That nose is a dead giveaway.
Title: RE: Another Fake Star Shilling...right ???
Post by: trout on August 17, 2013, 07:36:01 PM
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='25281' dateline='1376722882'
Quote from: 'bellyflorin' pid='25254' dateline='1376705830'the seller is a sly muppet  i messaged him and his care factor is zero , so  i have reported his 34/35 florin and the shilling ,   i hope  other forum members  do the same

Done. The Crown too, after comparing it to the PCGS graded one. That nose is a dead giveaway.

If you don't have a Crown Fulvio then PM me and I will send you one Mate.
A whole heap better than looking at PCGS pic's :ok:
Title: RE: Another Fake Star Shilling...right ???
Post by: r9453 on August 17, 2013, 07:55:35 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='25318' dateline='1376733961'A whole heap better than looking at PCGS pic's :ok:

QFT
Title: RE: Another Fake Star Shilling...right ???
Post by: Fulvio on August 17, 2013, 08:01:14 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='25318' dateline='1376733961'If you don't have a Crown Fulvio then PM me and I will send you one Mate.
A whole heap better than looking at PCGS pic's :ok:

Thanks mate, but I do have a couple, of both years, which I got from my uncle years ago. They're stashed with my NCLT and kinda hard to get to.
Title: RE: Another Fake Star Shilling...right ???
Post by: trout on August 17, 2013, 08:17:19 PM
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='25324' dateline='1376735474'
Quote from: 'trout' pid='25318' dateline='1376733961'If you don't have a Crown Fulvio then PM me and I will send you one Mate.
A whole heap better than looking at PCGS pic's :ok:

Thanks mate, but I do have a couple, of both years, which I got from my uncle years ago. They're stashed with my NCLT and kinda hard to get to.

Like I said , get a BIGGER desk :yahoo:
Or get a better storage system. I have a large percentage of my coins in 2x2's in PPH albums ( all appropriately labelled ) and if I want to access a particular coin it only takes me seconds to do so :yahoo:
THATS why I debag,deslab and take EVERYTHING out of the bloody mint packaging , ease of access :dance2: :yahoo:
Title: RE: Another Fake Star Shilling...right ???
Post by: Fulvio on August 17, 2013, 09:07:23 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='25326' dateline='1376736439'Or get a better storage system.

Working on it, mate. The rolls for bulk storage, and the LDPE 2x2 system is slowly coming along. The major fly in that ointment is holding the mounts or bags. Pages and albums are inefficient. Slide trays work, but aren't easy to flip through. There must be a better way... I just haven't found it yet. :)
Title: RE: Another Fake Star Shilling...right ???
Post by: Basil on August 18, 2013, 09:23:48 AM
I may be going paranoid with these fakes but i had another look at the Crown last nite,the gape(?) on the Kings Mouth also seems wrong,but only slightly.The HP missing is the easy ID.