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Australian Coins, Banknotes and Exonumia => Australian Pre-Decimal Coins => Topic started by: wwwww on October 12, 2012, 11:10:00 AM

Title: A $400 fake
Post by: wwwww on October 12, 2012, 11:10:00 AM
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1930-penny-classic-/300791147102?_trksid=p3907.m8&_trkparms=algo%3DMW%26itu%3DUCC%26otn%3D12%26po%3DLCA%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D2676980560863062061&_qi=RTM694639

This is a lot to pay for a fake.
Title: RE: A $400 fake
Post by: markn on October 12, 2012, 11:49:17 AM
Not even a good fake.  The seller actually says he thinks it's not real.  But still bidiots push the price up.
Title: RE: A $400 fake
Post by: purplepennyhunter on October 12, 2012, 11:52:34 AM
Not to justify this price but a good altered date will always go for more than a chinese fake.
Title: RE: A $400 fake
Post by: markn on October 12, 2012, 12:09:04 PM
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='1442' dateline='1350004954'Not to justify this price but a good altered date will always go for more than a chinese fake.

That's not an altered date though, it's just a Chinese bit of junk.
Title: RE: A $400 fake
Post by: accumulator on October 12, 2012, 05:57:54 PM
$671 for about 20 cents worth of copper,very foolish buyers !
Title: RE: A $400 fake
Post by: Nevol on October 12, 2012, 10:56:19 PM
If I was that desperate to fill a 1930 hole in an album, I'd cut out a picture of a really nice coin, paste it on some cardboard and that would be my filler, but there's no way I'd buy a fake regardless of the price.  Not even if someone offered me a free one, I'd rather have a cutout picture of a real one, but fortunately I'm not that desperate. :grin:
Title: RE: A $400 fake
Post by: bellyflorin on October 13, 2012, 03:39:39 PM
Oooo dear , in more ways than one ,  capsule would be worth 60cents  lol
Title: RE: A $400 fake
Post by: wwwww on October 15, 2012, 09:51:56 AM
Another one
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Australian-Penny-1930-/251164821420?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item3a7a9707ac#ht_680wt_1089
Title: RE: A $400 fake
Post by: trout on October 15, 2012, 10:12:19 AM
Quote from: 'wwwww' pid='1541' dateline='1350256916'Another one
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Australian-Penny-1930-/251164821420?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item3a7a9707ac#ht_680wt_1089

This is getting ridiculess, I have reported this item to ebay and suggest everyone else does the same.
Title: RE: A $400 fake
Post by: enworb on October 16, 2012, 01:02:34 AM
The seller clearly states that one is an altered date penny. I dont think their is anything wrong with the listing. Anyone stupid enough to buy it as a genuine example deserves to get burned IMO.
Title: RE: A $400 fake
Post by: humpybong on October 16, 2012, 07:20:06 AM
I can see nothing wrong with this listing.  It is offered as an altered date coin and it is clear that the date has been altered.

Anyone who cannot afford the real thing can get this one at a fraction of the price of the real thing.

Report what!  Nothing wrong.
Title: RE: A $400 fake
Post by: trout on October 16, 2012, 07:50:37 AM
Quote from: 'humpybong' pid='1569' dateline='1350334206'I can see nothing wrong with this listing.  It is offered as an altered date coin and it is clear that the date has been altered.

Anyone who cannot afford the real thing can get this one at a fraction of the price of the real thing.

Report what!  Nothing wrong.

Tell me you are joking Barry.
There is "Everything" wrong with this listing.
How can it be an altered date when it is clearly a Chinese fake and not a genuine coin?
It is a counterfeit coin and designed to defraud the uneducated, that’s what is wrong with the listing.
If you wanted a "Hole filler" there are plenty of 1930 copies out there clearly marked as copies that sell for a couple of bucks each.
People that sell these kind of coins with "altered date" or “not sure if genuine" headings know exactly what they are FAKES and are purely and simply CROOKS in my opinion.
That’s why these types of listings should be reported and removed, So that these dishonest sellers can’t profit from the ignorant.
Title: RE: A $400 fake
Post by: Australian coin on October 16, 2012, 10:47:52 AM
I know the person who makes the copy coins, I have got a few myself, I also ask for them not to have copy on them, cause I can :P
I made a whole thread on CCF about artificially toning down coins.
I don’t like people who play dumb and lie about them being copies, but I don’t have a problem with owning them, as fillers there cool.
ebay is supposed to have a new policy about selling copies and fake and this person is playing dumb to get around it, nothing more nothing less.
Just bid idiots parting with their money, doing a little research is always best.
Title: RE: A $400 fake
Post by: enworb on October 16, 2012, 03:33:57 PM
Re the second ebay listing in the thread; It is clearly stated in the description that it is an altered date! No where does it say it is genuine! There is nothing wrong with the listing. It is not trying to deceive people into thinking it is a genuine example.

They are not all made with the intend of defrauding. I would say the majority are actually made for collectors who cant stand the hole in their album and have to fill it. Some of the altered dates look far better than the chines copies. And who the heck wants a big ugly COPY stamped on the coin if theyre going to put it in their album. Not me!

If this coin was being sold as genuine or may be genuine etc then there is something wrong with the listing. In accurately describing the coin as an altered date the seller is not doing anything wrong in my book.
Title: RE: A $400 fake
Post by: MobOfRoos on October 16, 2012, 05:38:45 PM
Quote from: 'Australian coin' pid='1578' dateline='1350346672'ebay is supposed to have a new policy about selling copies and fakes and this person is playing dumb to get around it, nothing more nothing less.


Australian Coin is right. These listing are in breach of eBay rules. Ebay no longer allows selling of fakes or copies, even if they are declared as non genuine.

I have also seen enough of these fake 1930 pennies selling for around $1000 to have my doubts that it is the result of "bidiots".
In my opinion these coins sell for so much because the winning bidder has the intention of onselling it as genuine.