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Numismatic Discussion => Coin Chit Chat => Topic started by: Basil on August 05, 2013, 02:53:44 PM

Title: Stolen coins in Melb.
Post by: Basil on August 05, 2013, 02:53:44 PM
To those who missed it,thread about stolen Coins on the USA Forum,someone must own them.I don't know if the Altona coins are connected.

 http://leader.newspaperdirect.com/epaper/viewer.aspx

Edit...link disappears after posting but Unicorn has posted article.
Title: RE: Stolen coins in Melb.
Post by: Unicorn on August 05, 2013, 03:40:49 PM
Thanks Basil ....

Hobsons Bay Leader 30/07/2013

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Title: RE: Stolen coins in Melb.
Post by: Nevol on August 05, 2013, 03:50:47 PM
I hope Brissyboy sees this. A bit of a long-shot considering he knows who stole his coins, but you never know, stranger things have happened.
Title: RE: Stolen coins in Melb.
Post by: coxspau on August 05, 2013, 04:04:25 PM
Could these belong to the poor chap in Adelaide who went through a similar experience recently?
Title: RE: Stolen coins in Melb.
Post by: ausjack on August 05, 2013, 05:17:55 PM
It's great news to see that someone might get some of their treasures back, thanks Basil and thanks for putting it up Uni :good:
Title: RE: Stolen coins in Melb.
Post by: stevo1962 on August 06, 2013, 10:18:03 AM
CCF post from detectives looking for owners of the found coins

 http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=155215
Title: RE: Stolen coins in Melb.
Post by: ausjack on August 06, 2013, 12:09:36 PM
Well that's BS, we are here..we are aussie. I would have thought that you hit the aussie sites first being in australia..but then I'm different to most :)

And havin an ex cops enough isn't Stevo :laugh2: sorry mate I wanna be good :)
Title: RE: Stolen coins in Melb.
Post by: robbiegal on August 06, 2013, 06:17:37 PM
they usually contact the coin clubs as well
Title: RE: Stolen coins in Melb.
Post by: Fulvio on August 06, 2013, 06:42:06 PM
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='24088' dateline='1375756776'I would have thought that you hit the aussie sites first being in australia..

But we are also hidden, whereas CCF is public. Very few know we exist.
Title: RE: Stolen coins in Melb.
Post by: lacey on August 06, 2013, 06:42:58 PM
I think it's something we all need to be aware of.  I just hate the thought of someone nicking my coins.  Lets hope the coppers find the owners soon.
Title: RE: Stolen coins in Melb.
Post by: dcoin on August 07, 2013, 03:50:32 AM
Quote from: 'lacey' pid='24137' dateline='1375780378'I think it's something we all need to be aware of.  I just hate the thought of someone nicking my coins.  Lets hope the coppers find the owners soon.

I'm pretty sure I know the owner of these items, they seem very similar to a collection of notes/coins which were recently stolen in the area, I've contacted the person whose items were stolen and they have contacted the police and will see if the items are in fact theirs. Had it not been for the coin forum I wouldn't have been aware of this and be able to pass this info on (the potential owner of these items hadn't seen an article in the local paper nor frequents coin forums).

Thanks everyone and hopefully it's a happy end to the story, even if it isn't the collectors collection that was recently stolen they can hopefully find the rightful owner and it's a happy end to the story.
Title: RE: Stolen coins in Melb.
Post by: Nevol on August 07, 2013, 07:55:27 AM
Quote from: 'dcoin' pid='24177' dateline='1375813232'I'm pretty sure I know the owner of these items, they seem very similar to a collection of notes/coins which were recently stolen in the area, I've contacted the person whose items were stolen and they have contacted the police and will see if the items are in fact theirs. Had it not been for the coin forum I wouldn't have been aware of this and be able to pass this info on (the potential owner of these items hadn't seen an article in the local paper nor frequents coin forums).

Thanks everyone and hopefully it's a happy end to the story, even if it isn't the collectors collection that was recently stolen they can hopefully find the rightful owner and it's a happy end to the story.
Please let us know if there is a 'happy ending' for the coins, (and invite the owner to join the forum).
Title: RE: Stolen coins in Melb.
Post by: Robster on August 07, 2013, 08:48:46 AM
Would be a great result.!! :yahoo:
Title: RE: Stolen coins in Melb.
Post by: dcoin on August 08, 2013, 04:15:13 AM
Unfortunately the notes weren't the ones stolen from this collectors home, hopefully they track down whoevers notes/coins they were.
Title: RE: Stolen coins in Melb.
Post by: WavyTwenty on August 08, 2013, 11:13:31 AM
Gak - I didn't realise that that much coin collection stealing went on.

Not good.
Title: RE: Stolen coins in Melb.
Post by: Basil on August 08, 2013, 03:05:34 PM
Collectors have to be careful,crooks get the addresses off Ebay if you a prolific seller,PO Box with a pseudonym is a help if your turning over a lot of items on Internet sites.
Title: RE: Stolen coins in Melb.
Post by: robbiegal on August 08, 2013, 05:16:01 PM
and DON'T list your landline number with ebay

any thief can google your landline number for a very specific address map

we never give it out at coin shows either
Title: RE: Stolen coins in Melb.
Post by: bellyflorin on October 20, 2013, 06:13:49 PM
Just read this on facebook some poor bugga has got his/her coins nicked   Keep a eye out you folk in  South Australia :police_car:

The theft of a large amount of mint condition coins from a break-in near Yankalilla is being investigated by police.
Between 6pm last night and 4.30am today, a house in Wattle Flat was broken into with a large amount of coins stolen.
The coins were purchased upon their release, so most would be in original packaging.
If you have seen a large amount of coins for sale recently in the Victor Harbor area, or have information that may assist police please call Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000, or online at www.sa.crimestoppers.com.au

:dodgy:

https://www.facebook.com/sapolicenews
Title: RE: Stolen coins in Melb.
Post by: Cooper S on October 20, 2013, 06:28:28 PM
its always a shame when you here that sort of news my mums cousins place was broken into and she had around about $600 worth of round 50c stolen btw that's at face value so at the moment about $6000. along with all his gold sovereigns. all up the estimated about $12000 was stolen
Title: RE: Stolen coins in Melb.
Post by: dcoin on October 20, 2013, 06:46:36 PM
Quote from: 'Cooper S' pid='31608' dateline='1382255908'its always a shame when you here that sort of news my mums cousins place was broken into and she had around about $600 worth of round 50c stolen btw that's at face value so at the moment about $6000. along with all his gold sovereigns. all up the estimated about $12000 was stolen

Just some related advice to the topic, when it comes to your collection your best defence is three fold (it's not fool proof but it's a good start):
-Don't let anyone know you collect coins/valuables
-Store your coins off-site in a secure bank/storage vault
-Use a PO Box if you sell a lot of items on ebay or similar.
Title: RE: Stolen coins in Melb.
Post by: Cooper S on October 20, 2013, 07:24:05 PM
ok thanks for the advice pretty much the only people that know I collect are you guys. I haven't told anyone else apart from joining the forum and I have no regrets what so ever in joining it it has been awesome so far the people I have met are all genuine I love it here and id like to thank you guys.
Title: RE: Stolen coins in Melb.
Post by: Fulvio on October 20, 2013, 08:09:18 PM
Quote from: 'dcoin' pid='31610' dateline='1382256996'-Don't let anyone know you collect coins/valuables
-Store your coins off-site in a secure bank/storage vault
-Use a PO Box if you sell a lot of items on ebay or similar.

Well, two out of three ain't bad I guess.. where's Obi-Wan when I need him (to make you lot forget I exist)? ;)
Title: RE: Stolen coins in Melb.
Post by: robbiegal on October 20, 2013, 08:34:32 PM
guess it's hard to be in a coin forum and fake not being a collector!

I never allow pick up on ebay , never ever,  for that very reason
Title: RE: Stolen coins in Melb.
Post by: trout on October 20, 2013, 08:55:41 PM
There are 2 collectors that I know of I Geraldton WA that have bought off  me on fleabay and I have delivered the coin/coins personally.
I live in a small area and I have a reputation  of being a  "Hard Bastard" so I have NO fear of being ripped off.
It may be different in the Cities but in the Bush your reputation and your Honour is Everything :ok:
Title: RE: Stolen coins in Melb.
Post by: dcoin on October 20, 2013, 09:04:38 PM
I'm not suggesting that you should never use ebay, post on a forum, etc.

Personally though my friends and the majority of my family wouldn't have the slightest clue I collect coins. Others may be different but that's just my personal philosophy.
Title: RE: Stolen coins in Melb.
Post by: robbiegal on October 20, 2013, 09:22:52 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='31623' dateline='1382264741'There are 2 collectors that I know of I Geraldton WA that have bought off  me on fleabay and I have delivered the coin/coins personally.
I live in a small area and I have a reputation  of being a  "Hard Bastard" so I have NO fear of being ripped off.
It may be different in the Cities but in the Bush your reputation and your Honour is Everything :ok:

yeah maybe it is
I never allow pick up from my home

delivery is different cause you are going to their place
but for me, it has been a right stuff around to arrange a delivery time that suits all and then often  it's across a potential of around 80 ks of township
it saves the buyer a few bob on postage, and I have ended up driving over 40 'ks to deliver things for buyers to save them postage, so now I don't offer at all

I know that most people are honest but being a woman i gotta be a bit more careful as well
most sellers who i have picked up from are chatty and often have other stuff that they are selling & show me that stuff, so at times, my ' pick-up' ends up taking about 2 hours, with the old man tapping his toes in the car!
Title: RE: Stolen coins in Melb.
Post by: runway on October 20, 2013, 09:41:17 PM
Never store valuables at home address whatsoever.
My modest collections are kept in a secure vault nowhere where I live
Title: RE: Stolen coins in Melb.
Post by: Goldseeker on October 20, 2013, 11:35:53 PM
If you do have these things stored at home, ensure you have pictures/scans of every coin, saved to a separate haerd drive and further, ensure your household contents insurance has sufficient value to cover the value of the coin collection.
Title: RE: Stolen coins in Melb.
Post by: nealeffendi on October 22, 2013, 12:29:01 PM
A few problems.
If you buy off fleabay then numerous sellers have your home address and/or name. Even with a PO box there are not that many people in the suburb with your surname. Only takes a dodgy seller to  give that info to his light fingered friends. Same with dodgy buyers.
I can buy a few items from sellers in my home city (Sydney) and then get the return addresses off the back of the envelopes. I know from following up your feedbacks that you have sold numerous coins (maybe bulk silver or nice sovereigns).
I get my stuff sent to a relatives address in another suburb. They don't collect coins and don't need insurance for same.
Insurance only covers the monetary value but not the emotional value. If you have a scrumptious coin (say an intensely purple penny) then the low monetary value of the insurance does not cover the irreplaceable coin.
Get a safe (and not a cheap one), bolt (or even better concrete) it to the floor and disguise it so it is hard to find. Also a big dog (or geese). Deadbolts, solid core doors etc. Make the thief give up before he gets his hands on your stuff.
Title: RE: Stolen coins in Melb.
Post by: purplepennyhunter on October 22, 2013, 12:36:13 PM
Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='31800' dateline='1382407141'If you have a scrumptious coin (say an intensely purple penny)
where where where
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Title: RE: Stolen coins in Melb.
Post by: Fulvio on October 22, 2013, 01:45:26 PM
Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='31800' dateline='1382407141'Even with a PO box there are not that many people in the suburb with your surname.

Hehe.. my PO box is thirty miles away. ;)