I bought this coin off of eBay (sellers images):
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/1947-o.jpg)
And here it is (my images)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/Img4171.jpg)
I am about 99% certain they've photoshopped the images to remove the worst of the bagging. Your thoughts?
You definitely need a new camera!
Seriously though; is their image of the actual coin (photoshopped) or have they stolen one from elsewhere?
It does look, to me, as if it is the same coin. Remnants of some blemishes are still on their image and seem to match.
So, what are you going to do?
Quote from: 'markn' pid='23043' dateline='1374918202'I bought this coin off of eBay (sellers images):
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/1947-o.jpg)
And here it is (my images)
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/Img4171.jpg)
I am about 99% certain they've photoshopped the images to remove the worst of the bagging. Your thoughts?
HeHe , Welcome to the club mate.
All you can do is add that seller to your "No Go: list :ok:
Mark, if it's not then they have used light to an extreme advantage.
If you can grab a copy of the image from the seller it will show up.
(ie: the 'good' image has no property info ..... but I don't know where it came from ....eg: screen grab etc), whereas your photo has:
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11067/markn.jpg)
If you can get a copy of the image from the seller it will have the photo editing details all over the file property data.
Do you have the ebay item number? (PS: I don't mind if you don't want to share that).
Maybe you could send a link to this thread to the seller. But, that probably wouldn't achieve anything -plenty more victims still out there to be duped.
How many members here? Maybe you could advise the seller your have passed on information to XXX coin collectors about the duplicity.
I presume you have queried the seller about sending the wrong coin accidentally?
Look at the discolouration in the areas I've circled in red.
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/1947-o-red.jpg)
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='23049' dateline='1374919484'Maybe you could send a link to this thread to the seller. But, that probably wouldn't achieve anything -plenty more victims still out there to be duped.
How many members here? Maybe you could advise the seller your have passed on information to XXX coin collectors about the duplicity.
I presume you have queried the seller about sending the wrong coin accidentally?
It's the same coin.
Quote from: 'markn' pid='23051' dateline='1374919539'Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='23049' dateline='1374919484'Maybe you could send a link to this thread to the seller. But, that probably wouldn't achieve anything -plenty more victims still out there to be duped.
How many members here? Maybe you could advise the seller your have passed on information to XXX coin collectors about the duplicity.
I presume you have queried the seller about sending the wrong coin accidentally?
It's the same coin.
:I agree:
the work put into "Dubbing" this photo would have taken lot of expertise , However the seller could not remove the big ding in front of the Kings nose.
Defiantly the same coin but doctored pic's :ok:
Quote from: 'trout' pid='23052' dateline='1374919927':I agree:
the work put into "Dubbing" this photo would have taken lot of expertise , However the seller could not remove the big ding in front of the Kings nose.
Defiantly the same coin but doctored pic's :ok:
You'd be surprised at how easy it is.
The original image is taken with a compact flouro light
set at a shallow angle, then
a Clone Tool used to Fix "Minor Blemish's" :angel:
I reckon its just in the lighting.
Quote from: 'markn' pid='23054' dateline='1374920034'Quote from: 'trout' pid='23052' dateline='1374919927':I agree:
the work put into "Dubbing" this photo would have taken lot of expertise , However the seller could not remove the big ding in front of the Kings nose.
Defiantly the same coin but doctored pic's :ok:
You'd be surprised at how easy it is.
I don't want to know how it is done , I just consider this type of thing unconscionable, unethical and just outright slimy :ok:
I sincerely hope you deal with this seller accordingly :yahoo:
I bet i can name the seller, i'm not going to but i reckon i know exactly who it is.
Quote from: 'enworb' pid='23056' dateline='1374921408'I reckon its just in the lighting.
Look at the sellers images and you'll see that 3-4 of the biggest bag marks are just missing. And surrounded by discoloured areas. It's not the lighting.
The lighting angle used would hide most of the marks, it certainly wouldn't hide the big one above the bust though.
Quote from: 'markn' pid='23061' dateline='1374921806'Quote from: 'enworb' pid='23056' dateline='1374921408'I reckon its just in the lighting.
Look at the sellers images and you'll see that 3-4 of the biggest bag marks are just missing. And surrounded by discoloured areas. It's not the lighting.
dodgy sod, Time to name and shame Mate :ok:
Yeah,i also bought a coin from this seller but on the day i recieved the coin i had my error glasses on & when i seen the reverse die shatter all the way round i foolishly over looked the severe scuffing/gouges on the obverse.
(http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo339/appeangel07_photos/29-9-08/new%20coin%20album/017_zps12d1077a.jpg)
(http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo339/appeangel07_photos/29-9-08/new%20coin%20album/006_zps17b4cc90.jpg)
My photography did'nt pick up a fair bit of the die cracks on the reverse.
Great photography skills everyone
I wouldn't really care if it was shopped or cleverly lit, or both. This is not a piece of art, its a description of the item for sale. And as such, its false advertising. I'd be pretty upset over being ripped off, and I'm sure mark's not thrilled either.
sorry to hear that.
It may well be photo shopped but the angle that a coin is held at and the light can sometimes mask some blemishes.
The sellers photo also looks like it has been softened.
Have you given feedback yet? Curious to know what you may have said.
Jeff
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='23152' dateline='1374998342'Have you given feedback yet? Curious to know what you may have said.
Jeff
Yes. I left feedback.
SELLER ENHANCED COIN IMAGE TO REMOVE BAG MARKS BEWARE
Quote from: 'markn' pid='23153' dateline='1374998682'Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='23152' dateline='1374998342'Have you given feedback yet? Curious to know what you may have said.
Jeff
Yes. I left feedback.
SELLER ENHANCED COIN IMAGE TO REMOVE BAG MARKS BEWARE
It is such a shame you cannot use the words you really want to when sending Neg feedback :diablo:
I noticed they replied that their photos are genuine and not enhanced etc.
Did you ask them to email you the original of the photo? (Bet they won't)
Unfortunately the properties data on the ebay pics didn't help at all.
Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='23194' dateline='1375017047'I noticed they replied that their photos are genuine and not enhanced etc.
Did you ask them to email you the original of the photo? (Bet they won't)
Unfortunately the properties data on the ebay pics didn't help at all.
I am pretty sure that ebay removes exif data from images when they are uploaded in the same way facebook does.
Yes, thanks Mark. I thought that may be the case after trying a few others (shame eh).
(It still makes my blood boil though .......)
Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='23207' dateline='1375047644'Yes, thanks Mark. I thought that may be the case after trying a few others (shame eh).
(It still makes my blood boil though .......)
It's a smart move on eBay's behalf. I'd hate to list up a solid gold foozle woozle I found at my dead grandmother's house and have the images tagged with the latitude and longitude of where I took the image. Who know's who'd turn up to try to misappropriate your foozle woozle.
I'm looking at this thread trying to decide if I need to start collecting foozle woozles. Will it fit in a 2x2?
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='23212' dateline='1375051979'I'm looking at this thread trying to decide if I need to start collecting foozle woozles. Will it fit in a 2x2?
If a foozle woozle is round and shiny, I want one! :angel:
Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='23213' dateline='1375053247'Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='23212' dateline='1375051979'I'm looking at this thread trying to decide if I need to start collecting foozle woozles. Will it fit in a 2x2?
If a foozle woozle is round and shiny, I want one! :angel:
Aren't they the same as a Wazzle Dizzle but minted in silver instead of Bronze :angel:
Quote from: 'trout' pid='23222' dateline='1375058960'Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='23213' dateline='1375053247'Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='23212' dateline='1375051979'I'm looking at this thread trying to decide if I need to start collecting foozle woozles. Will it fit in a 2x2?
If a foozle woozle is round and shiny, I want one! :angel:
Aren't they the same as a Wazzle Dizzle but minted in silver instead of Bronze :angel:
I think you have that one mixed up with a Razzle Dazzle Jim
I hear they're releasing pad-printed foozle woozles next year. Wonder if we'll get colour variations, and whether they'll be collectible?
Don't you win a new Dragster push bike if you find a gold fozzle wozzle?
His ....
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11067/d01.jpg)
Hers ....
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11067/d02.jpg)
(just for you PPH)
Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='23233' dateline='1375077381'Don't you win a new Dragster push bike if you find a gold fozzle wozzle?
Hang on... where's the chrome-plated fozzle wozzle mounting bracket? They're supposed to come with them!
I like the purple one :blackeye:
I bought a packet of PURPLE POSTING peel and seal envelopes today
they were just too cool and on special -
i'm gonna post them to PP!!
Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='23233' dateline='1375077381'Don't you win a new Dragster push bike if you find a gold fozzle wozzle?
His ....
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11067/d01.jpg)
Hers ....
(http://www.australian-coins.net/gallery/albums/userpics/11067/d02.jpg)
(just for you PPH)
my brother had a purple dragster with the short sissy bar and the gears
we lived , oh about a 6-7 mile ride from the place where he did his butchers' apprenticeship
and he'd get up very early in the mornings and do the ride on his purple dragster - half of the trip dirt road as well
even then I thought it was just a gorgeous thing to see
all six foot something of him on this sparkly dragster that he absolutely adored and treasured
you could dinky as well on those long seats
they really were great bikes
They sure were Robbiegal, one of the kids down the street had one ........ I'm pretty sure that there was a competition back around 1969-71 with little plastic 'beasts/critters' in chip packets and the prize was a new dragster if you found a gold one. (Hence the story).
I wasn't gonna say anything but I can't help it sorry as this just makes me sick to the core as it's these bastards that are stuffin up our hobby..let me at them :diablo:
Sorry you got had Mark :(