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Australian Coins, Banknotes and Exonumia => Australian Errors and Varieties => Topic started by: MattGold on July 07, 2013, 03:49:41 PM

Title: Some Help Please!!!
Post by: MattGold on July 07, 2013, 03:49:41 PM
Would someone know what the printed letter on this note would be from? Mint? PMD? hmmmmmm? I'm posting on behalf of another collector..
I came across something similar on paper notes and that was called PIL Plate Identificaton Letter.. Not sure if this is that though..
Thanks in advance
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2emjz1f.jpg)
Title: RE: Some Help Please!!!
Post by: Fulvio on July 07, 2013, 04:06:00 PM
Its not the PIL. That's buried in the design.

Fifty Dollar:
Situated on the obverse side, to the right of the last book on the second of two rows at the left centre of note.
Title: RE: Some Help Please!!!
Post by: MattGold on July 07, 2013, 04:33:44 PM
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='20627' dateline='1373178960'Its not the PIL. That's buried in the design.


Fifty Dollar:
Situated on the obverse side, to the right of the last book on the second of two rows at the left centre of note.


Ok cool thanks, another person also is saying that they have a similar note to this one but with the letters PN..
Title: RE: Some Help Please!!!
Post by: Fulvio on July 07, 2013, 04:37:29 PM
Quote from: 'MattGold' pid='20630' dateline='1373180624'Ok cool thanks, another person also is saying that they have a similar note to this one but with the letters PN..

Look at it under a microscope and you will see the ink is on top of the other layers, confirming its an overprint.

As to who overprinted it, and why, no idea. :angel:
Title: RE: Some Help Please!!!
Post by: MattGold on July 07, 2013, 05:10:56 PM
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='20631' dateline='1373180849'
Quote from: 'MattGold' pid='20630' dateline='1373180624'Ok cool thanks, another person also is saying that they have a similar note to this one but with the letters PN..

Look at it under a microscope and you will see the ink is on top of the other layers, confirming its an overprint.

As to who overprinted it, and why, no idea. :angel:

Thanks again Fulvio, always a help..
Title: RE: Some Help Please!!!
Post by: keldaw on July 08, 2013, 01:17:22 PM
help with this one please ..

(http://i43.tinypic.com/34opjlg.jpg)
Title: RE: Some Help Please!!!
Post by: ausjack on July 08, 2013, 01:24:27 PM
not 100% but it looks like it could be a nice big thumb print..sorry Kel :( but good to see you back and hope you had a nice trip :)
Title: RE: Some Help Please!!!
Post by: keldaw on July 08, 2013, 01:45:24 PM
thanks  A J , if it was a thumb print wouldn't it wipe off the coin ?
 we had a very bad trip  , this time , we had to come home early because we both got the flu very bad  , and my wound started to fill up with rubbish again and the doctor said he would not lance it just yet and I just have to wait .. it was very cold up there and as jeffh  said the bottom has fallen out of the markets just now and dawn did not sell much at all . about 20 hand towels , 3 caserole   carriers ,
 a few plastic bag holders and a couple of scarfs and bedsocks .
 that is all she sold , and now she tells me she also sold 4 fly stoppers
 they are a small bangle covered with net and beads to put over your drinks to stop the flys getting in .. I still cant talk yet but my voice is slowly coming back day by day .     ,, kel ,,

this is better pic I think

(http://i39.tinypic.com/hs1hxk.jpg)
Title: RE: Some Help Please!!!
Post by: ausjack on July 08, 2013, 02:38:05 PM
depending what you had on your hands, no they don't sorry :(

Sorry to hear about yout trip and about the markets being down but hope your both feeling better real soon. Been cold here as well so I've put on another layer and thicker beanie but wish we had a fire 'cause I miss ours so I hope you've got yours going with a nice pot of chicken soup simmering away..get well Kel :)
Title: RE: Some Help Please!!!
Post by: enworb on July 08, 2013, 03:10:57 PM
The oil and acids and everything else on your fingers will tone the metal of the coin. If not removed relatively quickly it will permanently tone the coin, resulting in the differences in colour.
Title: RE: Some Help Please!!!
Post by: Fulvio on July 08, 2013, 06:51:30 PM
Here's what NGC has to say about it:
http://www.ngccoin.com/news/viewarticle.aspx?NewsletterNewsArticleID=453

Judging from the photo, that coin is ruined. Pity, because it looks like a filled die under the print. There seems to be no detail in the hair at all.