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Australian Coins, Banknotes and Exonumia => Australian Pre-Decimal Coins => Topic started by: enworb on June 26, 2013, 07:16:46 PM

Title: A 1000+ year old Australian Penny
Post by: enworb on June 26, 2013, 07:16:46 PM
Minted in the year 962

(http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q772/enworb5/IMG_1177_zps8bbfc331.jpg) (http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/enworb5/media/IMG_1177_zps8bbfc331.jpg.html)
Title: RE: A 1000+ year old Australian Penny
Post by: JeffH on June 26, 2013, 07:17:34 PM
I will have two of those please. Please quote a price.
And I am really seeking a "930" one too.

Jeff
Title: RE: A 1000+ year old Australian Penny
Post by: enworb on June 26, 2013, 07:23:30 PM
I actually have a second one here very similar. The 1 is just visible, being not quite as weakly struck.
Title: RE: A 1000+ year old Australian Penny
Post by: lacey on June 26, 2013, 07:47:42 PM
That's amazing.  I don't think I have ever seen a coin with one number absolutely missing.  usually you can see even a tiny bit, but this one just isn't there at all.  

Good find Enworb
Title: RE: A 1000+ year old Australian Penny
Post by: enworb on June 26, 2013, 07:58:29 PM
I have a 5c and 20 which are both missing the date entirely. I know they were minted between 66 and 84 but other than that I have no idea. I also have a 1966 1c which has the 1 in the date missing completely. I suppose that's another 1000 year old coin ;)
Title: RE: A 1000+ year old Australian Penny
Post by: Unicorn on June 26, 2013, 08:23:44 PM
Excellent coin Enworb!

Come on, pics of the others. You have wet my appetite now!!!
Title: RE: A 1000+ year old Australian Penny
Post by: Fulvio on June 26, 2013, 08:44:50 PM
Very nice fill indeed. What do you think? A dollop of heavy grease, and the operator wiped it off, but only on the top surface of the die? There would be other examples, possibly with some of the field obliterated I would think.
Title: RE: A 1000+ year old Australian Penny
Post by: enworb on June 26, 2013, 08:45:13 PM
I apologise for the crappy photos but they were taken through a saflip which I only just finished sealing the other week and i'll be damned if im getting them out.

You will notice that the 5c also has LIA missing and the 20c has the LIA weakly struck but just visible.

1c:
(http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q772/enworb5/IMG_1181_zpse0a4388c.jpg) (http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/enworb5/media/IMG_1181_zpse0a4388c.jpg.html)

5c:
(http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q772/enworb5/IMG_1185_zpsafe5931d.jpg) (http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/enworb5/media/IMG_1185_zpsafe5931d.jpg.html)

20c:
(http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q772/enworb5/IMG_1186_zps3ebb90af.jpg) (http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/enworb5/media/IMG_1186_zps3ebb90af.jpg.html)

I think it probably is grease fulvio. Like I said I have a near identical coin but with a smidgen of the 1 showing so that is possibly a slightly later strike from around the same time. Could also be from a completely unrelated event.
Title: RE: A 1000+ year old Australian Penny
Post by: Fulvio on June 26, 2013, 09:11:54 PM
Quote from: 'enworb' pid='19489' dateline='1372245313'Like I said I have a near identical coin but with a smidgen of the 1 showing so that is possibly a slightly later strike from around the same time. Could also be from a completely unrelated event.

Fills and miscellaneous strikethroughs happen often enough that they are usually unrelated. Its one reason I keep ALL my strikethroughs, and plan on eventually documenting them. With enough examples, a related pair is bound to turn up I figure.

Somewhere in this scrap metal yard masquerading as my desk I've got a couple of filled dollars from last week. One has almost nothing legible IIRC. But you don't often see a single digit so thoroughly obliterated like that penny. Either the blob hangs around and you get a huge dent, or it spreads into several letters and it all just looks sort of like a weak strike.

I'd love to have found this coin, or one like it. :)
Title: RE: A 1000+ year old Australian Penny
Post by: robbiegal on June 26, 2013, 09:36:50 PM
grease filled die?

(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/P5300046_zpsd3248d36.jpg)
closest that I have to a filled 1
(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/1962faded11_zps12e2716d.jpg)
Title: RE: A 1000+ year old Australian Penny
Post by: Fulvio on June 26, 2013, 09:51:19 PM
Yep. Lovely. :)
Title: RE: A 1000+ year old Australian Penny
Post by: enworb on June 26, 2013, 10:06:44 PM
Nice ones robbie
Title: RE: A 1000+ year old Australian Penny
Post by: robbiegal on June 26, 2013, 10:20:45 PM
I don't believe that I have ever seen a completely filled missing 1
I will have to have a hunt through the hubby's error albums

I once had a completely missing K in the KG on a 1964 penny
but I swapped it for something else with another collector
never seen one since either
Title: RE: A 1000+ year old Australian Penny
Post by: Fulvio on June 26, 2013, 10:43:26 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='19505' dateline='1372251045'but I swapped it for something else with another collector
never seen one since either

Oh dear. I don't think I'd ever swap a flaw of any sort. They're by definition individual and unique, whereas whatever I was going to swap it for probably wouldn't be. By comparison, errors are a dime a dozen, and varieties as common as dirt. :)
Title: RE: A 1000+ year old Australian Penny
Post by: ausjack on June 27, 2013, 02:40:10 AM
trout has a 960 I think it was..unless he shot it :mocking:
Title: RE: A 1000+ year old Australian Penny
Post by: Robster on June 27, 2013, 08:22:17 AM
"Cool coins guys" Makes the noodling worth while.!!
Title: RE: A 1000+ year old Australian Penny
Post by: markn on June 27, 2013, 08:42:27 AM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='19499' dateline='1372248410'grease filled die?

(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/P5300046_zpsd3248d36.jpg)


What's the other side look like Rob?
Title: RE: A 1000+ year old Australian Penny
Post by: keldaw on June 27, 2013, 09:24:08 AM
(http://i39.tinypic.com/2m29sh2.jpg)

 this is my first I have ever found , now I have 2 or 3 more ..  ,, kel ,,
Title: RE: A 1000+ year old Australian Penny
Post by: keldaw on June 27, 2013, 10:36:33 AM
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2ztkf7r.jpg)
(http://i41.tinypic.com/2yltd0l.jpg)

(http://i40.tinypic.com/sll99d.jpg)
(http://i44.tinypic.com/313jhwm.jpg)

 this is my next 2 I have ,..   ,, kel ,,
Title: RE: A 1000+ year old Australian Penny
Post by: ausjack on June 27, 2013, 10:51:31 AM
I'll be in the shed if ya's want me :winkextra:
Title: RE: A 1000+ year old Australian Penny
Post by: Robster on June 27, 2013, 05:38:49 PM
(http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o787/robster836/004_zps9edff0f2.jpg)
1964 Penny "G" of KG Missing.
Title: RE: A 1000+ year old Australian Penny
Post by: Unicorn on June 27, 2013, 05:41:34 PM
G that's a beauty Robster!!
Title: RE: A 1000+ year old Australian Penny
Post by: Robster on June 27, 2013, 05:55:10 PM
Thanks for finding it Unicorn.!!
Title: RE: A 1000+ year old Australian Penny
Post by: Unicorn on June 27, 2013, 06:34:49 PM
No worries ...... had nothing better to do ..... I'd end up being Chuck's dinner if I didn't keep myself busy.
Title: RE: A 1000+ year old Australian Penny
Post by: enworb on June 27, 2013, 06:39:27 PM
Nice one Rob
Title: RE: A 1000+ year old Australian Penny
Post by: accumulator on June 27, 2013, 09:27:59 PM
(http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo339/appeangel07_photos/29-9-08/new%20coin%20album/007_zpse932896f.jpg)    (http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo339/appeangel07_photos/29-9-08/new%20coin%20album/012_zps3e7e5372.jpg)
Title: RE: A 1000+ year old Australian Penny
Post by: robbiegal on June 27, 2013, 09:34:38 PM
Quote from: 'markn' pid='19543' dateline='1372288347'
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='19499' dateline='1372248410'grease filled die?

(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/P5300046_zpsd3248d36.jpg)


What's the other side look like Rob?
bit blurry
(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/P5300045_zps6a607327.jpg)

Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='19509' dateline='1372252406'
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='19505' dateline='1372251045'but I swapped it for something else with another collector
never seen one since either

Oh dear. I don't think I'd ever swap a flaw of any sort. They're by definition individual and unique, whereas whatever I was going to swap it for probably wouldn't be. By comparison, errors are a dime a dozen, and varieties as common as dirt. :)

it works out ok if you get the swapping right

Quote from: 'Robster' pid='19591' dateline='1372320529'(http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o787/robster836/004_zps9edff0f2.jpg)
1964 Penny "G" of KG Missing.

wowsa
I HAD one like that
don't now!!
excellent and I reckon it's rare

Quote from: 'accumulator' pid='19629' dateline='1372334279'(http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo339/appeangel07_photos/29-9-08/new%20coin%20album/007_zpse932896f.jpg)    (http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo339/appeangel07_photos/29-9-08/new%20coin%20album/012_zps3e7e5372.jpg)

you guys are kidding me here
unbelievable
Title: RE: A 1000+ year old Australian Penny
Post by: Unicorn on June 27, 2013, 09:40:51 PM
Excellent coin Accumulator ...... now we know where Robster's G went.
Title: RE: A 1000+ year old Australian Penny
Post by: Robster on June 28, 2013, 08:25:46 AM
Still hoping for that round table conference one day- more swapping than a 60's dinner party.!!
Title: RE: A 1000+ year old Australian Penny
Post by: ausjack on June 28, 2013, 08:53:02 AM
ROBBY..I'm suppose to be the naughty one, bad seed, black sheep or trouble maker :mocking: