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Australian Coins, Banknotes and Exonumia => Australian Pre-Decimal Coins => Topic started by: dreamcatcher on June 15, 2013, 11:20:45 AM

Title: Another fake 1930 penny selling for more that 10k?
Post by: dreamcatcher on June 15, 2013, 11:20:45 AM
Hi guys. This one looks pretty bad in my opinion. The "9" in 1930 looks bizarre and completely different to other pennies. Bids are currently above $10,000!

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/151062437811?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

What do you guys think?

Dreamcatcher
Title: RE: Another fake 1930 penny selling for more that 10k?
Post by: Fr45h3R on June 15, 2013, 11:24:27 AM
They obviously didn't see this
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1930-penny-lookout-READ-/111097038276?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item19dde645c4
Title: RE: Another fake 1930 penny selling for more that 10k?
Post by: echidna on June 15, 2013, 11:27:22 AM
Its an obvious Chinese dud.
They "re-tone" them now so they look the part instead of being bright and shiny.
My guess is the bids are shill bids.
Title: RE: Another fake 1930 penny selling for more that 10k?
Post by: Mister T on June 15, 2013, 12:17:03 PM
Surprise surprise it's a London obverse too.
Title: RE: Another fake 1930 penny selling for more that 10k?
Post by: bellyflorin on June 15, 2013, 03:49:26 PM
what a shocker , rips you off on postage too  , just a  tuuuurd , :dodgy: very dodgy
Title: RE: Another fake 1930 penny selling for more that 10k?
Post by: Unicorn on June 15, 2013, 06:02:12 PM
QuoteI don't have any experience about coin or penny

give me a break ......... I can see plenty of coin sellers in his buyers feedback.
Title: RE: Another fake 1930 penny selling for more that 10k?
Post by: JeffH on June 15, 2013, 06:08:50 PM
And, like many "phishing" emails, the grasp on spelling and grammar are tenuous!
Title: RE: Another fake 1930 penny selling for more that 10k?
Post by: wwwww on June 15, 2013, 06:28:47 PM
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='18337' dateline='1371285530'And, like many "phishing" emails, the grasp on spelling and grammar are tenuous!

They still inviting you to be an eBay Poserseller?
Title: RE: Another fake 1930 penny selling for more that 10k?
Post by: ausjack on June 15, 2013, 06:45:20 PM
I wanna know how someone that knows nothing about coins new to get a book and how to find the rare one's..I know I'm slow but it's taken me years and I'm still tryin to work out these books, yes very suss :whistle2:
Title: RE: Another fake 1930 penny selling for more that 10k?
Post by: Fr45h3R on June 15, 2013, 06:53:35 PM
Quote from: 'wwwww' pid='18343' dateline='1371286727'
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='18337' dateline='1371285530'And, like many "phishing" emails, the grasp on spelling and grammar are tenuous!

They still inviting you to be an eBay Poserseller?

Is that where you take a photo of yourself holding the item doing a duckface pose ?
Title: RE: Another fake 1930 penny selling for more that 10k?
Post by: runway on June 16, 2013, 12:18:01 AM
This is my book pennies form my grandad
I keened save form long time
But now I have some situation & I like to
Sell my pennies
I don't have any experience about coin or penny
I just ask & now which is good
1930 & 1925 & 1946
They are all years is great form this book
But I don't now anything ales
I make photo please see & check yourself
If you have any question please ask
I hope your happy when you got
I send with Australia post register
If oversees please send email & ask how much cast
Thank you & good luck for bitting

CAN WE REPORT THIS LISTING TO ANYONE?
Title: RE: Another fake 1930 penny selling for more that 10k?
Post by: Fulvio on June 16, 2013, 07:07:20 AM
Quote from: 'runway' pid='18365' dateline='1371307681'CAN WE REPORT THIS LISTING TO ANYONE?

Umm.. his CHINGLISH teacher maybe? :angel:

Seriously, ebay don't care. They've proven that often enough. :(
Title: RE: Another fake 1930 penny selling for more that 10k?
Post by: Unicorn on June 21, 2013, 08:06:20 AM
Listing has been removed by ebay .......

Good to see ................... :yahoo:
Title: RE: Another fake 1930 penny selling for more that 10k?
Post by: Steveqld on June 29, 2013, 11:27:34 AM
My reading of the various articles on "How to pick a fake 1930 penny" suggests this isn't the genuine article based on the lineup of the "ALIA" and the final upstroke of the "N" in OMN with the denticles.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1930-AUSTRALIAN-PENNY-/261237483837?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item3cd2f7a93d

Am I on the right track?  Irrespective, what was used to clean it... sandpaper?

Steve
Title: RE: Another fake 1930 penny selling for more that 10k?
Post by: Unicorn on June 29, 2013, 11:45:52 AM
Oh look, it's go234coins again ........ and hasn't he some lovelies for sale this time!

PS: I reckon it was a heavy grade sandpaper at that!

My favourite would be the UNC 1938! :laugh2:
Title: RE: Another fake 1930 penny selling for more that 10k?
Post by: accumulator on June 29, 2013, 12:55:11 PM
I reported the 30 penny,hopefully they'll pull before some poor sucker puts a bid on it,but i won't hold my breath.
Title: RE: Another fake 1930 penny selling for more that 10k?
Post by: Unicorn on August 24, 2013, 06:56:37 PM
Another chinese fake 1930 ...... oh, bought at a garage sale!!

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/200956047824 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/200956047824)
Title: RE: Another fake 1930 penny selling for more that 10k?
Post by: echidna on August 24, 2013, 07:19:21 PM
I have reported this.
But my guess is that some idiot will get ripped off.
There is a real need for ebay to do something about these scams.
I've seen these chinese copies sell for over $10000 via similar scams.
Title: RE: Another fake 1930 penny selling for more that 10k?
Post by: MobOfRoos on August 25, 2013, 10:30:48 AM
Quote from: 'echidna' pid='26065' dateline='1377337761'There is a real need for ebay to do something about these scams.
I've seen these chinese copies sell for over $10000 via similar scams.

It's difficult.
eBay can't be expected to scrutinize every single item that gets listed with them. Even with items that get reported as fakes, they have to give the seller the right of reply and probably the benefit of the doubt. Otherwise there would be a lot of vexatious reporting.

In the end it is "buyer beware". As galling as it is to see scammers ripping people off, the buyers have to take some responsibility. One suggestion is to wait until the buyer has left feedback so you can contact them and tell them its a fake (I have done this before). It may be too late to get a refund but it is a learning experience for them
Title: RE: Another fake 1930 penny selling for more that 10k?
Post by: Unicorn on August 25, 2013, 11:22:05 AM
Well that was quick ....... the latest listing above has now been removed (not just ended).
Title: RE: Another fake 1930 penny selling for more that 10k?
Post by: accumulator on August 25, 2013, 12:11:43 PM
I think it's an ebay policy to get rid of any sign of fraudulent listings so nothing can come back on them,or it certainly seems that way.
Title: RE: Another fake 1930 penny selling for more that 10k?
Post by: Unicorn on August 25, 2013, 12:27:46 PM
That makes sense Accumulator. I guess there's no need to bury your head in the sand when there's nothing to see!
Title: RE: Another fake 1930 penny selling for more that 10k?
Post by: Unicorn on September 05, 2013, 10:40:53 PM
Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='26062' dateline='1377336397'Another chinese fake 1930 ...... oh, bought at a garage sale!!

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/200956047824 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/200956047824)

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/200960509896 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/200960509896)

It's baaaaaccccckkk ........... (and reported)
Title: RE: Another fake 1930 penny selling for more that 10k?
Post by: Fulvio on September 06, 2013, 01:12:32 AM
Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='27042' dateline='1378386653'It's baaaaaccccckkk ........... (and reported)

Gotta love ebay.. if at first you don't succeed, grab another ID and live to scam another day.
Title: RE: Another fake 1930 penny selling for more that 10k?
Post by: duggee27 on September 06, 2013, 04:11:50 PM
its gone already
i doubt ebay wae that quick to respond
Title: RE: Another fake 1930 penny selling for more that 10k?
Post by: accumulator on September 06, 2013, 04:56:31 PM
Quote from: 'duggee27' pid='27125' dateline='1378449710'its gone already
i doubt ebay wae that quick to respond

it could have been ebay,i reported as soon as i seen Unicorn's post & if others also reported it ebay may have removed it.
Title: RE: Another fake 1930 penny selling for more that 10k?
Post by: runway on September 06, 2013, 11:16:05 PM
I reported too bastard is still a menber