Here are my leftover market stall notes. All paper (except one).
Postage at discounted price.
Offers considered.
Formatting of my table will suffer in the process of copying it to here so, please slip me an email and I will send the original to you.
Message me about any you may be interested in and I will do scans and detailed description. I have put grades as I think but I am not much experienced with note grading so they may not be completely accurate -but should be close.
Thanks,
Jeff
VALUE|Prefix|Signatures|Approx. grade|Asking|Comments
10/- AH31 Coombs/Wilson VG-F $20 Grubby, very creased
£1 HJ70 Coombs/Wilson F $16 Stain (oil?)
$1
ABR Coombs/Wilson F $6
ADH Coombs/Wilson VF-EF $10
ADR Coombs/Wilson VF-EF $8
ANQ Phillips/Randall VF-EF $5
ARP Phillips/Randall F-VF $4
BAR Phillips/Randall EF $12
CFC Knight/Wheeler aUNC $10
CKG Knight/Wheeler aUNC $10
CHC Knight/Wheeler aUNC $10
CHP Knight/Wheeler aUNC $10
CJQ Knight/Wheeler aUNC $10
CXJ Knight/Stone F-VF $2 Corner crease
DJP Johnston/Stone aUNC $3
DKC Johnston/Stone UNC $10 Consecutive pair
Various Johnston/Stone EF-aUNC $8 Four notes
DPH Johnston/Stone UNC $15 Consecutive triple
$2
FVH Phillips/Randall VF-EF $15
GNV Phillips/Randall EF $20
HFT Phillips/Wheeler EF $20
HHH Phillips/Wheeler F $6
HSN Knight/Wheeler VF-EF $12
HVN Knight/Wheeler F-VF $8
JDF Knight/Wheeler VG-F $4
Various Knight/Stone F $8 Three notes
KCG Johnston/Stone aUNC $10
KLJ Johnston/Stone aUNC $10
Various Johnston/Fraser VF-EF $6 Two notes
LJY Johnston/Fraser UNC $160 Run of twenty
HUU Knight/Wheeler aUNC $60 Consecutive pair
HYF Knight/Wheeler UNC $150 Five consecutive
$5
PXG Johnston/Fraser aUNC $30 Consecutive pair
PXP Johnston/Fraser aUNC $30 Consecutive pair
PYC Johnston/Fraser aUNC $30 Consecutive pair
QDH Johnston/Fraser aUNC $30 Consecutive pair
EA01 MacFarlane/Evans F-VF $5 Centenary of Federation Polymer
$10
SDT Coombs/Randall F-VF $75
SEL Coombs/Randall VF-EF $100
MCB Fraser/Higgins EF $20
MKR Fraser/Cole aUNC $20
Jeff
Here is a link to my list.
Jeff's note list (http://home.exetel.com.au/ulansol/forumsales/Notes.pdf)
Thanks to Fulvio for assistance getting this to work.
Jeff
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='18352' dateline='1371293342'Thanks to Fulvio for assistance getting this to work.
Aww, tweren't nuffin... *blush* :blush:
Well, not much interest shown in these. Maybe I am too optimistic with my prices?
I will leave it for a couple of days to see if any offers then close this thread so I can put up some coin lists.
Jeff
jeff , I think most people are interested in coins now rather then notes , notes are easier to store but detereate much easier .. ,, kel ,,
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='18882' dateline='1371800968'Maybe I am too optimistic with my prices?
Tough crowd, eh? :dodgy:
I looked at them, thought
"no bargains here", and moved on. At half those prices I would have been doing some serious contemplating, and probably purchasing. But then, chances are the competition would have been fierce too.
Notes in general are cheaper now than 20 years ago, IMO, but i'm not sure why. Ebay Oz. has had a lot to do with setting the market value the last 14 years and thats way under what the dealers were asking & catalogue pricing.
too many dealers and not enough collectors here sorry Jeff :(
Quote from: 'Basil' pid='18935' dateline='1371816628'Notes in general are cheaper now than 20 years ago, IMO, but i'm not sure why. Ebay Oz. has had a lot to do with setting the market value the last 14 years and thats way under what the dealers were asking & catalogue pricing.
I have been told that notes went similar to how coins are going now,
the prices got too ridiculous and inflated
the collectors with deep pockets just aren't there to sustain the artificial (or not) inflation of the retail value/s for a great length of time
I think too that the 'investment' market contributed to this for both denominations
Quote from: 'Basil' pid='18935' dateline='1371816628'Notes in general are cheaper now than 20 years ago, IMO, but i'm not sure why. Ebay Oz. has had a lot to do with setting the market value the last 14 years and thats way under what the dealers were asking & catalogue pricing.
I think it's because of three main reasons. First, the market was completely over-heated and a lot of prices didn't reflect the availability of notes. Second, the Federal government is placing tougher conditions on holding collectables in SMSF's, making them harder to hold. SMSF's were a huge source of cash that fuelled the note market. And finally, Australia's biggest note seller went bankrupt meaning one of the primary sources of heat in the market disappeared and it spooked a lot of the big players.
Personally I think anyone buying polymers as an "investment" is dicing with their money.
bank notes went up and up well over a decade ago
that bank-note seller only recently went belly up
high end coin collectors really have to beware
jeff , the market is lost at the moment ,
I just sold on ebay , it finished today .
one by 1981 proof set I paid $ 35.00 for in 1981,
today,s sale price , $ 22.00 + $ 9.00 postage = $ 31.00 ,,
now cost to me in 1981 $ 35.00
todays cost the coins in the set , post $ 6.00 +ebay $ 2.18 +paypaL $ 1.04.
$ 44.22.
SO FOR ME , I SPENT $ 44.22 TO SELL THE SET AND I GOT BACK
$ 31.00.
loss to me of $ 13.22 cents .that is after 32 years of holding on to them .. I am not a winger , I really don't care , but I am just trying to explain what can happen .. ,, kel ,,
Quote from: 'keldaw' pid='18987' dateline='1371890109'one by 1981 proof set I paid $ 35.00 for in 1981,
today,s sale price , $ 22.00 + $ 9.00 postage = $ 31.00 ,,
I've never given it a lot of thought but it seems to me that some of those proof sets are undervalued, or I would expect them to fetch more.
:i_agree: Mr T.
Kel, at $22 + post I reckon someone got a bargain!
(Geez I wish I was cashed up ........).
Quote from: 'Mister T' pid='18990' dateline='1371894015'I've never given it a lot of thought but it seems to me that some of those proof sets are undervalued, or I would expect them to fetch more.
No, its not that they're undervalued. They're massively overpriced at the outset, which means anyone buying them is going to lose out if they ever sell them.
All these things have an intrinsic value of their face value, or metal content. Anything over that is profit for someone, whether the producer, a retailer, ebay, or (highly unlikely) the seller. The way things stand at the moment, everyone gets their chop except the poor blighter who bought the things in the first place.
In the current environment, money just isn't an investment for us mere mortals.
$22 is about dealer price Kel
cat is $25 (less than the original price - and 30 years on $35 was a fair amount of $$ then - I think it was close to a weeks groceries for me at the time)
that is what I paid for one last year - direct off the dealer
so , you did ok for ebay
the only one I have left now is my 1983 proof set , with the famous
.20 c coin in it , and in the same packing as the 1981 set we are talking about , I had it on ebay at $ 35.00 plus postage , not even a looker at it , so I am open to offers on it also . and then that is my last proof set to sell .. any interest at all ? go for it .. ,, kel ,,
Quote from: 'keldaw' pid='19048' dateline='1371960410'the only one I have left now is my 1983 proof set , with the famous
.20 c coin in it , and in the same packing as the 1981 set we are talking about , I had it on ebay at $ 35.00 plus postage , not even a looker at it , so I am open to offers on it also . and then that is my last proof set to sell .. any interest at all ? go for it .. ,, kel ,,
The 1983 proof 20 cents is actually valued at less than the business strike coin Kel :dash1:
OK,
I am now trickling these notes (plus a few more) onto eBay at reasonable starting prices so I will mark this thread "CLOSED" soon.
So, keep an eye on my eBay listings as there may be the chance of a few good buys. Everything will go and offers will be considered for any of them.
Jeff
hi jim , business strike coin , sorry mate but I am not that far up the ladder , what does that mean business strike coin . I have never heard of it , I only know standard coins , uncirculated coins, and proof coins . I thought the proof dollar 1983 was value because 83 and 84 were mostly melted back down , and not many were left ..
but I am not worried any more , I feel life is good to me now .. just being able to sleep in on these cold mornings .
,, kel ,,
Business strikes are the plain, ordinary, circulation coins. No special handling or packaging, just what you get in your everyday change.
there's no business ... like coin business .. like no business I know
and so on ha ha
the earlier pre-decimals show up in near "specimen/proof" in the business strikes as they used the same times to make all three
they just changed how polished the dies were and how many times the coin was struck and of course, held onto the proof, specimens for special management for the record of the sale
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='19080' dateline='1371987362'there's no business ... like coin business .. like no business I know
I like you.. you're
funny! :angel:
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='19080' dateline='1371987362'the earlier pre-decimals show up in near "specimen/proof" in the business strikes as they used the same times to make all three
they just changed how polished the dies were and how many times the coin was struck and of course, held onto the proof, specimens for special management for the record of the sale
Well, while proofs are quite different animals, specimens are at least in theory, normal coins treated with a little TLC.
yeah - had a bit of a musical type jig here in the study ha ha
re: specimens - oh really?
I thought they were treated differently?
so are they the first cab off the rank after the proofs are struck?
my spec. captain cooks are definitely better struck than my uncirculated (but business) strike
and take the wedding sets for example pre-proof sets
they are definitely better looking coins
Quotethere's no business ... like coin business .. like no business I know
I know what song I'll have in my head today ..........
:laugh2: nothing like a musical interlude Robbie
you can give up now robbie, I already have the part :winkextra:
IMO, banknotes are on a downward spiral or nearing the bottom of said spiral. While they currently don't represent a good return, on a long term basis, I believe they will continue to generate a modest return over the initial outlay. If notes are picked out of circulation, then similar to coins, they will attract less of a return on your purchase price (ie. face value).
While there are many sides to the banknote debate, there are two points that I find interesting:
- Errors are rare, therefore condition and production figures are the main contributing factors to value.
- Banknotes are rarely created to celebrate a special occasion (in Australia anyway), which means there is very little variation so collecting a full set is not too onerous and can be very rewarding.
I would even go so far as to say that banknotes will generate a better return (on a $ for $ and grade for grade basis) than most of the non-precious metal items produced today.
BTW Steve, what's your ebay id so we can find your listings?
I think we had this specimen thing all worked out Robbie, a few months ago.
So from what PRA said, all those coins in mint sets aren't specimens, just ordinary coins popped into mint sets, isn't that so?
As to the bank notes, I woulda been interested if I had seen this thread earlier than just now. my fav is the blue Dobel. 1993 or 94, what ever but, I paid about $12 a couple of years ago but last time I looked on ebay, someone was trying to flog one for over $35. All the rest were in used condition.