Ive just about finished the task I started a couple months ago, putting all my coins into saflips and heat sealing them. Im tossing up two ways of arranging my error collection. I was thinking of either having them arranged by denomination, with all predecimals first OR arranging them by error type eg cuds, misstrikes, clipped planchets.
What do you think would be better? denomination or error type.
Sounds like you've been havin fun mate :) I'm thinkin maybe year, denom then error..that's a hard one MG, good luck with it
What happens when you get a broadstruck clip?
I order mine in denomination but it's only your decision to make how you do it!!
I have mine split into decimal and pre-decimal and then by denomination.
Ah very good point PPH!
my hubby has his all together in the years
normal, then the errors
I have mine by error type (not years) - pre-dec or dec (of which I add I have few)
then I have my besties in an error album in eagle mounts
What are these eagle mounts you speak of robbie?? maybe a pic pretty pretty please..with sugar on top :beg:
Interesting. Well, leaving aside the Dec/Pre-Dec divide, I'd do it this way:
Varieties, Errors and Flaws.
Then within each of those groups, Denomination and Year.
Then for each coin, group the type of error.
Yes, a Double-Bar variety with a Die Crack error and a clipped planchet flaw would be problematic, but so would any other system. ;)
Oh, and for progressive errors like cuds, you could arrange them to document the deteriorating die, from a slight bulge through to the full-blown massive cud just before the thing shattered.
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='18153' dateline='1371195600'What are these eagle mounts you speak of robbie?? maybe a pic pretty pretty please..with sugar on top :beg:
https://www.eaglecoinholders.com/new/catalog/
I sort by denomination but my collection of errors consists of two upset $1 coins so I guess what I have is sorted by type too.
cool thanks Fulvio :good:
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='18153' dateline='1371195600'What are these eagle mounts you speak of robbie?? maybe a pic pretty pretty please..with sugar on top :beg:
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the eagle mounts come in various coin sizes but the 2x2 remains the same size overall
the mounts go into stiff plastic pages
black with dymo label (hubby gave me the holder - I just chucked my coin in it)
(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/P6130019_zps5aeac7a8.jpg)(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/P61300112_zpsd1cfa2fc.jpg)
(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/P6130017_zps8430557c.jpg)(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/P6130016_zpsd8b876aa.jpg)
white with Robbie texta label (not as stylish!!) and I even use silver texta on the black holders! ha ha
(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/P6130020_zps37fd1674.jpg)(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/P6130021_zps5dc09716.jpg)
very nice coins and holders robbie, I'll have to see if I can get some :good:
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='18179' dateline='1371202134'very nice coins and holders robbie, I'll have to see if I can get some :good:
Then there's thick and thin mylar. Thick for thin coins and thin for thick coins. I have some spare AJ if you want a few "test" Eagle mounts to play about with I can send you some. I found you have to use pliers on some to keep them together. All my "best" coins that deserve an Eagle mount have been upgraded to PCGS slabs so I don't really use them anymore.
Quote from: 'Mister T' pid='18167' dateline='1371198306'...my collection of errors consists of two upset $1 coins
I could fix that problem for you, as could several other people here. :)
Jack
the eagle mounts get a bit complicated
you have as PP said thick and thin myler, then the hard pages
you have to get the right sized inner ring and so on
it has been quite a bit of trial and error for us
then the dealers don't stock or order
so we went straight to the eagle mount retailer in the USA after nearly a year of trying ozzie dealers
between our order and post we were still ahead of trying to buy locally from dealers here in Oz
PP if you have excess eagle mounts I'd be interested too
I am particularly after halfpenny ones
I have picked up the odd box of them from the local coin & stamp auction
I have a small box full of what I thought was halfpenny holders
but they have labels as well and are all pretty well sovereign, shilling, sixpence eagles
I did wonder if they were ex Walter's as a matter of fact!
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='18200' dateline='1371206459'...trying to buy locally from dealers here in Oz
Maybe its time we start thinking about 3D printers and making our own storage systems?
Yeah I realise it's a not a lot but die cracks/cuds/weak strikes/etc aren't really my cup of tea so I don't seek them out.
I would suspect that enworb has a bit more than that in his collect
Quote from: 'Mister T' pid='18203' dateline='1371206802'Yeah I realise it's a not a lot but die cracks/cuds/weak strikes/etc aren't really my cup of tea so I don't seek them out.
(http://www.parrotforums.com/attachments/macaws/3294d1331948614-hybrid-macaws-smiley-agree-2.gif) Don't get me wrong, I'm not knockin' it (error hunting), just trying to get my head around error free coins at this stage. :hi: Having said that, no harm in keeping an eye out, right? :ok:
yeah
get to know what a good coin is first
errors come when you can then tell the difference
it all comes down to your on-going experience with handling the coins
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='18202' dateline='1371206767'Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='18200' dateline='1371206459'...trying to buy locally from dealers here in Oz
Maybe its time we start thinking about 3D printers and making our own storage systems?
called Purple Penny
those guys are paving the way for Australian Products
I have said for years that they are the future Rennicks & Downies for Australia
Thanks heaps for the info robbie and PP and I might just get a couple with my next order to see what they're like..they sound pretty full on having to close them with pliers :good:
nah
they click closed but if the ridges are out of wack then you squeeze them down flatter a tad with small pliers - just make the ridges click in together
i'll post you some pics
Eagle Mounts 101 (moved from the other thread about cardboard holders)
here goes
CLOSED:
(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/P6130030_01_zps90457ebd.jpg) OPEN: (http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/P6130031_zps774c067f.jpg) TRUSTY DEVICES - I USE JEWELLERY PLIERS: (http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/P6130032_zps9eb22043.jpg) THE RIDGES: (http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/P6130033_zpsbbd48b1e.jpg)(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/P6130034_zps0ceaacc3.jpg)(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/P6130036_zpsfca32f1a.jpg) A PAGE IN A PP ALBUM (http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a585/auntyrobbs/P6130038_zpsd842b52c.jpg)
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Question re the Eagle Mounts: Does the plastic covering and case effect the coins at all?
Can PPH supply the Eagle Mounts as well as the plastic pages to store the coins in as well as outer folders and slip cases?
Finally, is the Eagle Mount/Page system better than the saflaps or whatever?
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='18233' dateline='1371215539'Question re the Eagle Mounts: Does the plastic covering and case effect the coins at all?
Can PPH supply the Eagle Mounts as well as the plastic pages to store the coins in as well as outer folders and slip cases?
Finally, is the Eagle Mount/Page system better than the saflaps or whatever?
here's the PP blog about the eagle mounts
http://www.australian-threepence.com/blog/2008/10/eagle-coin-holders.html
we get ours from the USA - direct from the sellers - not sure if this link is the guys, I think it is
http://www.eaglecoinholders.com/new/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=171
overall, I prefer the flip - no staples, no fiddling with myler inserts and clipping eagle mounts that pop open and the coin slides in them as well.
I started with eagle mount many years ago and I like the way they show case my favourite coins - so it's personal choice
I put my eagle mount pages into a couple of PP albums - they didn't come from the PP shoppie
hope that helps
so they're good but we still need a better system, so coins move and only come in 2 sizes..I've really got to have a think about this and see what I can come up with :mr47_05:
Quote from: 'r9453' pid='18208' dateline='1371207402'aving said that, no harm in keeping an eye out, right? :ok:
No, of course not. I've got a few rabbit ears $1 coins but I just don't put them in my album.
Regardless of how that 51 florin is displayed it is AWSOME
Stunning coin RG :drooling:
Quote from: 'trout' pid='18269' dateline='1371252017'Regardless of how that 51 florin is displayed it is AWSOME
Stunning coin RG :drooling:
Absolutely. A coin like this deserves the best home it can get.
But you can't go spending a dollar or two to store something that's worth a dollar. That would be super-silly. Like slabbing well-worn common coins. Its just not done.
So we need a tiered approach. Cheap or free storage at the bottom end, moving up to more expensive solutions as the value of the coins justifies it. We will never ever see a cheap high-end product, because prices are not determined by production cost, but rather perceived value to the client.
Just finished. Decided to go with denomination and then year within that and then error within year. Thanks for the opinions.
that is what my hubby does