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Australian Coins, Banknotes and Exonumia => Australian Errors and Varieties => Topic started by: Nevol on October 04, 2012, 11:52:22 AM

Title: Pre Decimal Varieties-1944 3d
Post by: Nevol on October 04, 2012, 11:52:22 AM
Does anyone have any nice clear in focus images for these 1944S threepence varieties?

Wide downstroke on 1st 4
Missing Serif on top of 'S' Mint Mark

Even with the microscope I can't tell what's what as I don't have images to compare mine with.

I think I've got some with the wide downstroke, and regarding the 'S' MM, I have them with blobby looking serif top & bottom, ones with clear serif top & bottom. I've got about 3 doz 1944S, and every time I look through them, I change my mind about whether or not I have any varieties.  It makes me want to :dash1:

:idea: I suppose next time I pluck up the courage to examine them yet again, I'll take some images and post them here for opinions.
Title: RE: Pre Decimal Varieties
Post by: Mister T on October 04, 2012, 12:59:36 PM
Where did you get your information about these varieties?

I'm looking at Fred Lever's varieties book and I see three varieties listed: the all serif on S (the plain version I assume), the thicker 4s (maybe the wide downstroke?) and the droop foot 4 with narrow S (maybe the missing serif on S?).
Title: RE: Pre Decimal Varieties
Post by: Nevol on October 04, 2012, 01:32:40 PM
Renniiks Aust Pre-Decimal Coin Varieties - 2nd Edition, by Ian Mc Connelly 2010.  There is an image for the wide downstroke variety, but it's not much chop really.  Altogether he lists 18 different varieties/errors (die cracks, dots, lumps plus a few others)

I'll drag the coins out again soon and take some images, and then let the members here decide whether I have varieties or not.  

Once I get done with them, I think I might never want to see the little sods again.  I thought having the scope would make the job easy.  Hah! Fat chance. I had 4 little lots separated, but now they're all back together. I had a hissy fit and chucked the towel in.
Title: RE: Pre Decimal Varieties
Post by: Australian coin on October 05, 2012, 11:12:57 AM
Holy cow, do I have to look for that too!
I have a 1944s on top of the sell pile so ill take a pic of that one for you, but the others are in folders or buried in a pile or box of never-ending doom.

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Also found there links for you

http://www.powerhousemuseum.com/collection/database/?irn=300602
http://www.powerhousemuseum.com/collection/database/?irn=300601

http://www.coin.co.nz/australian-silver-1944-threepence-wide-first-4-variety,name,37150,auction_id,auction_details
Title: RE: Pre Decimal Varieties
Post by: Australian coin on October 05, 2012, 12:14:19 PM
Ok took pics of everything I have got.
Unsure whats with the last one took a few pics, could have a blob could be PMD, um anything interesting you can see there? I think there are light s and thick and s in there.

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Title: RE: Pre Decimal Varieties
Post by: Robster on December 07, 2012, 09:17:43 AM
Will look at my 1944s 3d's today Nancy.
Title: RE: Pre Decimal Varieties
Post by: Nevol on December 07, 2012, 11:41:29 AM
I'd forgotten about these little blighters.  I remember they nearly did my brain in. :whistle2:

I have another time consuming chore that I have to take care of, and when I've finished it, I might revisit this thread.  :winkextra:
Title: RE: Pre Decimal Varieties
Post by: Robster on December 07, 2012, 11:55:04 AM
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Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='4401' dateline='1354842689'I'd forgotten about these little blighters.  I remember they nearly did my brain in. :whistle2:

I have another time consuming chore that I have to take care of, and when I've finished it, I might revisit this thread.  :winkextra:

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Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='4401' dateline='1354842689'I'd forgotten about these little blighters.  I remember they nearly did my brain in. :whistle2:

I have another time consuming chore that I have to take care of, and when I've finished it, I might revisit this thread.  :winkextra:

Nancy- these are what I found- several die cracks - fat four and high mint mark.!
Title: RE: Pre Decimal Varieties
Post by: Nevol on December 07, 2012, 03:42:34 PM
Quote from: 'Robster' pid='4403' dateline='1354843504'
Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='4401' dateline='1354842689'I'd forgotten about these little blighters.  I remember they nearly did my brain in. :whistle2:
I have another time consuming chore that I have to take care of, and when I've finished it, I might revisit this thread.  :winkextra:
Nancy- these are what I found- several die cracks - fat four and high mint mark.!
Thanks Robby.  I've tagged this thread, so hopefully I won't forget it again. In fact, I'll set myself a reminder in my Inbox, that'll fix it! :grin:

Thanks AC too, you've obviously got a heap of 44's too. :friends:
Title: RE: Pre Decimal Varieties
Post by: trout on December 23, 2012, 08:23:58 AM
I havent gone through my 3d coins yet but I do have a 42s florin with a missaligned "s"
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