Does anyone have a feel for how rare the 2008 20c with the uppermost claws on the RHS mostly missing (say in comparison to the gap 20c)?
Pedro
Hi Pedro, Much rarer than the gap variety imo,i've only seen maybe 10 or a dozen missing claws,thousands of gaps.
Has someone got an image of one? I can't think if I have even heard of them, man I need to leave my rock sometimes haha
I'll post some images tomorrow, have to do a little work to them first and I'm pretty tired just now. :sleepy:
Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='17889' dateline='1371041153'I'll post some images tomorrow, have to do a little work to them first and I'm pretty tired just now. :sleepy:
I will await them thanks Nevol
Thanks for the information folks.
I was looking through some coins I had thrown in a drawer and thought it looked different (hadn't noticed it before!). Also found I had a 2002 C mintmark $1 in there that I didn't realise I had :blush:
Pedro
Looking through my error images shows that I have 6 of these and 5 of the 2008 Gap ones. But don't take that as an indication of how many might be out there as I usually only do images of the best ones that I have.
Trying to remember when I was noodling them, I have a feeling the missing foot ones were a little harder to find than the Gap ones. I also think that these are caused by die phil, but I believe the gap is due to a changed die. But that's just my opinion.
BTW, these are scans I did in 2010, so I might see if I can dig out the coins and get better images with my USB Scope.
(http://i43.tinypic.com/n5qa84.jpg)
I'd concur about fill vs die variety. Notice the whole foot is weak, along with part of the wave?
Here is a photo of my coin - lighting is too bright but the detail is reasonable.
Oops - photo was too large.
Pedro
Another one to look out for. How many more?
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='18032' dateline='1371119673'Another one to look out for. How many more?
Want me to knock up another list? It was sort of on the
"maybe one day" plan anyway... ;)
If you want too. I'm sure all will appreciate it. Take your time though.
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='18175' dateline='1371200795'Take your time though.
Definitely. I'm waist deep in dollar coins right now, and have to reach over a pile of them just to type this. :(
If it helps Fulvio just send us the dollars and we'll check them for you and you can get on with the list-making. :diablo:
Seriously though, a list would be terrific - I suspect it will be a long one.
I think there have been some attempts before but not sure where they are.
Pedro
Quote from: 'Pedro' pid='18249' dateline='1371245918'If it helps Fulvio just send us the dollars and we'll check them for you and you can get on with the list-making. :diablo:
What, and give up all this fun? Hah! :)
Quote from: 'Pedro' pid='18249' dateline='1371245918'I think there have been some attempts before but not sure where they are.
There have, but they all suffered the same problem, by not differentiating between Varieties, Errors and Flaws. So they ended up cataloguing tons of one-off flaws like strikethroughs and planchet flaws, broadstrikes, tilted collars and so on.
There are not many varieties, and I've already listed those in the mintages list.
For any given coin, there are generally only two or three errors, only one of which is generally common. So for example, with the WW2 50¢, the common error is the cud at the bottom of the priest's stole. And that comes in maybe half a dozen progressive versions. Then there are cuds on the helmets, and on a back IIRC, and of course the usual gamut of obverse cuds, which could be documented once in detail and referenced to. Everything else is a flaw, like doubling, planchet flaws and so on.
From memory the worst to list would be the 2001 federation 50¢. While the Fat 5 is common, there are various stages of roozillas, speared roos, cracked emus and all manner of cuds and cracks over the entire reverse. All coupled with any combination of obverse cuds. I once tried to catalogue all the different ones I had, and ended up with 20 or 30 distinct piles IIRC.
But on the other hand, there are coins where there are zero errors. 1986 peace dollars come immediately to mind. The only unusual thing I've ever seen on them is that massive strikethrough flaw which I bought a few weeks back, which was labelled as a "faulty blank".