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Title: Is this legit or?? 2oz Kookaburra
Post by: MattGold on June 12, 2013, 01:35:02 PM
Hey all posting this pic on behalf of a friend but what do you think about this 2 oz silver??

(http://i41.tinypic.com/2mwy16f.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2r2agp4.jpg)
Title: RE: Is this legit or?? 2oz Kookaburra
Post by: Australian coin on June 12, 2013, 01:39:45 PM
prob one of those paper weight things
Title: RE: Is this legit or?? 2oz Kookaburra
Post by: ausjack on June 12, 2013, 02:09:49 PM
I agree AC, here's an ebay link so if it is real it would be worth a motza..really cool error if it is :good:
http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_odkw=1993+australian+kookaburra&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=1993+australian+kookaburra+2oz&_sacat=0

If ya can MG get them to weight it might give you a bit more of an idea
Title: RE: Is this legit or?? 2oz Kookaburra
Post by: MattGold on June 12, 2013, 09:09:04 PM
I will ask him about the weight, he apparently has already taken it to a dealer in Perth and the dealer seemed to think it was real.

Quote from: 'Australian coin' pid='17803' dateline='1371010185'prob one of those paper weight things

What do you mean paperweight things? lol
Title: RE: Is this legit or?? 2oz Kookaburra
Post by: Mister T on June 12, 2013, 09:17:32 PM
Quote from: 'MattGold' pid='17872' dateline='1371037144'What do you mean paperweight things? lol

I think Perth Mint made paperweights with the same design and on a number of occasions people have removed the felt pad on the bottom and have tried to pass off the paperweight as rare uniface pattern,
Title: RE: Is this legit or?? 2oz Kookaburra
Post by: MattGold on June 12, 2013, 09:58:23 PM
Ahhhh true, I might have to google and see if I can find a pic of them.. I know that my friend has 2 other coins that look exactly the same as the kookaburra silver except that they are both alot larger in diameter than the 2oz kookaburra and get this, they are made out of aluminium. He said that who he bought them off said they were used for advertising
The same person had sold him the 2oz with the blank side but that one is silver he said. I'm just waiting to hear back from mate to see what the weight is..
Title: RE: Is this legit or?? 2oz Kookaburra
Post by: triplewitch on June 12, 2013, 10:01:26 PM
Will the Perth Mint authenicate their products?  When he's in Perth, he could take it there.-John
Title: RE: Is this legit or?? 2oz Kookaburra
Post by: MattGold on June 12, 2013, 10:31:32 PM
Just found this whilst googling for an answer

http://forums.silverstackers.com/topic-35250-perth-mint-kookaburra-bullion-with-no-obverse-queens-head-missing.html
Title: RE: Is this legit or?? 2oz Kookaburra
Post by: Fulvio on June 13, 2013, 02:22:32 AM
OK, I'm confused....

Five months ago, he posted:
"Here are some more images showing the measurements of the 1993 2 oz Kookaburra. I have also attached a closeup image of the obverse of this coin. My brother is going to take it to a dealer on Monday to see if they can test it for silver." along with pics of the measurements. Then what happened?

The paperweights weren't that small. And as previously noted, they were plated Aluminium. I've got a gold one lying around someplace...

My guess, given the look of the obverse, is that its been machined.
(http://d65852kwq1u8u.cloudfront.net/uploads/9471_closeup.jpg)
Notice the concentric circles? Somebody pulled a double scam, shaving off 1/10 oz of silver and also trying to pass it off as an error ("misprint" indeed, LOL!). If you have the coin at hand, look for marks on the rim.
Title: RE: Is this legit or?? 2oz Kookaburra
Post by: accumulator on June 13, 2013, 07:32:46 AM
I agree with Fulvio,someone has been playing around on a lathe.
Title: RE: Is this legit or?? 2oz Kookaburra
Post by: ausjack on June 13, 2013, 07:44:13 AM
they look like the same coin to me just different pic's as one you can see the camera and shadows but same rust and other marks
Title: RE: Is this legit or?? 2oz Kookaburra
Post by: MattGold on June 13, 2013, 07:47:39 AM
Well was speaking with my mate this morning and I think he said that that is his sister that posted the coins on silverstackers, he didn't even know she had put them on there and was hell surprised when I sent him the link.. He is gonna have a chat with her and see if they can make another appointment or something at the Perth Mint and sort this out once and for all..
Title: RE: Is this legit or?? 2oz Kookaburra
Post by: Fulvio on June 13, 2013, 08:59:29 AM
How did they come about these anyway?
Title: RE: Is this legit or?? 2oz Kookaburra
Post by: MattGold on June 13, 2013, 07:18:36 PM
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='17939' dateline='1371079769'How did they come about these anyway?

He did tell me but I've forgotten, I will ask again. They were his brothers..
Title: RE: Is this legit or?? 2oz Kookaburra
Post by: robbiegal on June 13, 2013, 07:29:18 PM
to my knowledge the Perth Mint only sells with the Queens effigy and a denomination - otherwise they have to pay tax on the item

I have a few perth mint silver ones oz medallions - no Queenie
the mint got slugged tax
then recalled and melted and re-issued with the Queens effigy - tax free

Quote from: 'MattGold' pid='17891' dateline='1371042092'Just found this whilst googling for an answer

http://forums.silverstackers.com/topic-35250-perth-mint-kookaburra-bullion-with-no-obverse-queens-head-missing.html

the middle coin in the photo looks like an aluminium cast to me
some bloke on e-bay (in WA) was flogging them off as unique large 'trial uniface coins'- I remember the listings as I had bought off the seller as well
Title: RE: Is this legit or?? 2oz Kookaburra
Post by: MattGold on June 13, 2013, 07:52:15 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='18021' dateline='1371117558'to my knowledge the Perth Mint only sells with the Queens effigy and a denomination - otherwise they have to pay tax on the item

I have a few perth mint silver ones oz medallions - no Queenie
the mint got slugged tax
then recalled and melted and re-issued with the Queens effigy - tax free


Quote from: 'MattGold' pid='17891' dateline='1371042092'Just found this whilst googling for an answer

http://forums.silverstackers.com/topic-35250-perth-mint-kookaburra-bullion-with-no-obverse-queens-head-missing.html

the middle coin in the photo looks like an aluminium cast to me
some bloke on e-bay (in WA) was flogging them off as unique large 'trial uniface coins'- I remember the listings as I had bought off the seller as well

Yeh apparently the two larger ones are aluminium but still not sure on the 2oz yet
Title: RE: Is this legit or?? 2oz Kookaburra
Post by: robbiegal on June 13, 2013, 08:24:56 PM
cheers
I just went back a page and saw that you'd written that

but doughy tonight
but at least I spotted it!! ha ha  ... ho hum
Title: RE: Is this legit or?? 2oz Kookaburra
Post by: MattGold on June 13, 2013, 10:04:09 PM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='18040' dateline='1371120896'cheers
I just went back a page and saw that you'd written that

but doughy tonight
but at least I spotted it!! ha ha  ... ho hum

hahahahahahaa