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Australian Coins, Banknotes and Exonumia => Australian Decimal NCLT => Topic started by: Coins from Vending on June 04, 2013, 06:07:50 PM

Title: what do you makeof this proof set
Post by: Coins from Vending on June 04, 2013, 06:07:50 PM
Was looking at buying this lot but noticed the 1,2 and 5c peices were in sideways???

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r53/patchy001/set.jpg) (http://s141.photobucket.com/user/patchy001/media/set.jpg.html)

I asked the seller for a pick of theback and he sent me this??

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r53/patchy001/set21.jpg) (http://s141.photobucket.com/user/patchy001/media/set21.jpg.html)

it looks like the 5Cent and $2 coin are not a proof coins/

The $2 coin has visible wear around the head
Title: RE: what do you makeof this proof set
Post by: enworb on June 04, 2013, 06:12:30 PM
It is fine, has just rotated in the packaging.
Title: RE: what do you makeof this proof set
Post by: triplewitch on June 04, 2013, 06:14:15 PM
If they're like US sets, they can be opened and resealed.  Looks like you caught him.-John
Title: RE: what do you makeof this proof set
Post by: trout on June 04, 2013, 06:16:17 PM
Quote from: 'error hunter' pid='17141' dateline='1370335070'Was looking at buying this lot but noticed the 1,2 and 5c peices were in sideways???

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r53/patchy001/set.jpg) (http://s141.photobucket.com/user/patchy001/media/set.jpg.html)

I asked the seller for a pick of theback and he sent me this??

(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r53/patchy001/set21.jpg) (http://s141.photobucket.com/user/patchy001/media/set21.jpg.html)

it looks like the 5Cent and $2 coin are not a proof coins/

The $2 coin has visible wear around the head

If in doubt don't bid :ok:
Title: RE: what do you makeof this proof set
Post by: enworb on June 04, 2013, 06:34:13 PM
They cannot be reopener and sealed like the US sets. Proof coins are damn hard to photograph out of the case. Add the thick plastic packaging to the equation and its even more difficult. That is certainly not wear on the back of the $2.
Title: RE: what do you makeof this proof set
Post by: trout on June 04, 2013, 06:46:23 PM
Quote from: 'enworb' pid='17145' dateline='1370336653'They cannot be reopener and sealed like the US sets. Proof coins are damn hard to photograph out of the case. Add the thick plastic packaging to the equation and its even more difficult. That is certainly not wear on the back of the $2.

I agree with Matty, These sets are impossible to open and reseal :ok:
If these coins have rotated it means the set has had a rough time of it.
However the coins should be just fine.
I open all my proof sets and it is quite hard and the risk of injury is very real.
the US and Canadian sets are so much easier to open and the coins are 99% toned as a result of the crappy unsealed  packaging, even their mint sets are simply sold in cello packaging and are very prone to scuffing :dash1:
The RAM is SOOO much better at packaging coins than our counterparts over on the "Dark Side" :diablo: :yahoo:
Title: RE: what do you makeof this proof set
Post by: triplewitch on June 04, 2013, 08:01:25 PM
It was just a suggestion.  As the man said, "Don't bid if you have any doubt."-John
Title: RE: what do you makeof this proof set
Post by: Fulvio on June 04, 2013, 09:52:56 PM
IIRC, wasn't there a thread way back on ACBO about rotated coins in proof sets making them an "error" and therefore more desirable? It was during the whole packaging errors being collectible saga.
Title: RE: what do you makeof this proof set
Post by: runway on June 30, 2013, 12:55:52 AM
error sets I was told treat them with suspicion
Title: RE: what do you makeof this proof set
Post by: Fulvio on June 30, 2013, 01:42:46 AM
Quote from: 'runway' pid='19924' dateline='1372519552'error sets I was told treat them with suspicion

Why would you treat an error set with suspicion? Not that we've determined that rotated coins constitutes an error, as they can rotate after they're sealed.
Title: RE: what do you makeof this proof set
Post by: trout on June 30, 2013, 10:40:39 AM
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='19929' dateline='1372522366'
Quote from: 'runway' pid='19924' dateline='1372519552'error sets I was told treat them with suspicion

Why would you treat an error set with suspicion? Not that we've determined that rotated coins constitutes an error, as they can rotate after they're sealed.

I personally don't consider ANY of the so called mint set " errors "  to be of any numismatic interest, Including the sets with the wrong date coins in them.
They are simply stuff ups by mint employees "post mint".
The coins themselves are quite normal, There are far more interesting things to collect than these shoddy packaging quality control issues.
Title: RE: what do you makeof this proof set
Post by: Fulvio on June 30, 2013, 03:09:18 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='19952' dateline='1372554639'There are far more interesting things to collect than these shoddy packaging quality control issues.

:i_agree:
Title: RE: what do you makeof this proof set
Post by: wwwww on June 30, 2013, 03:19:58 PM
Looks fine to me, they're proofs but they've just rotated in the case. There's no shortage of sets without rotated coins though.
Title: RE: what do you makeof this proof set
Post by: Goldseeker on June 30, 2013, 07:32:25 PM
I have never seen any rotated coins at all in proof sets in the shops I attend here in Melbourne.
Title: RE: what do you makeof this proof set
Post by: trout on June 30, 2013, 07:37:56 PM
Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='20004' dateline='1372586545'I have never seen any rotated coins at all in proof sets in the shops I attend here in Melbourne.

All the proof sets I have opened up have had coins that were rather tight in the holder and I doubt that they would rotate.
Its either shoddy packaging or the set has been knocked about a fair bit.
Title: RE: what do you makeof this proof set
Post by: Fulvio on June 30, 2013, 08:54:38 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='20008' dateline='1372586876'Its either shoddy packaging or the set has been knocked about a fair bit.

Packed at two minutes to smoko I reckon. ;)
Title: RE: what do you makeof this proof set
Post by: runway on July 17, 2013, 12:06:07 AM
rotated coins in proof sets detract from the value not enhance it