I'm pretty confident that this coin is aUNC with possible rub marks around "ONE PENNY" on the reverse but would value any opinions thanks
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Looks Aunc to me, perhaps a couple on rim knocks below the date.?:idea:
Quote from: 'Robster' pid='15123' dateline='1368773528'Looks Aunc to me, perhaps a couple on rim knocks below the date.?:idea:
Agreed
sorry
e/f from me
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='15134' dateline='1368776337'sorry
e/f from me
My reasoning for aUNC is that you can still see the jewels in the bottom band of the crown and they're usually the first to go
Does the cleaned verdigris count at all?
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='15168' dateline='1368783301'Does the cleaned verdigris count at all?
Doesn't count as it's a better coin without verdigris
Quote from: 'stevo1962' pid='15148' dateline='1368778311'Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='15134' dateline='1368776337'sorry
e/f from me
My reasoning for aUNC is that you can still see the jewels in the bottom band of the crown and they're usually the first to go
I am no expert stevo
just throwing it out there - my opinion
rational: based on photos that are not crisp
I based my opinion on the softness of the 7th 8th pearls - some flattening there on the 2 of them & the band below 5+6 - 7+8 pearls
the 7 & 8th pearls appear to me to have wear and are not sharp or clearly separated - when you compare them to the other 6 pearls in the band
the central part of the band appears to have an indentation (ding?)
the moustache is quite flat on the outer edges which may be more than cabinet friction
the reverse rim has quite a few small dings on the outer which also indicates circulation wear
the legends appear to have some roughness to the surfaces , so again that indicates a reasonable amount of circulation wear to me
the high points on the cloak - the King's shoulder also appear to have wear
my recollection is that 2 years circulation = an average grade of E/F
it might be a higher grade penny but to me it's a nice solid E/F
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='15195' dateline='1368786405'Quote from: 'stevo1962' pid='15148' dateline='1368778311'Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='15134' dateline='1368776337'sorry
e/f from me
My reasoning for aUNC is that you can still see the jewels in the bottom band of the crown and they're usually the first to go
I am no expert stevo
just throwing it out there - my opinion
rational: based on photos that are not crisp
I based my opinion on the softness of the 7th 8th pearls - some flattening there on the 2 of them & the band below 5+6 - 7+8 pearls
the 7 & 8th pearls appear to me to have wear and are not sharp or clearly separated - when you compare them to the other 6 pearls in the band
the central part of the band appears to have an indentation (ding?)
the moustache is quite flat on the outer edges which may be more than cabinet friction
the reverse rim has quite a few small dings on the outer which also indicates circulation wear
the legends appear to have some roughness to the surfaces , so again that indicates a reasonable amount of circulation wear to me
the high points on the cloak - the King's shoulder also appear to have wear
my recollection is that 2 years circulation = an average grade of E/F
it might be a higher grade penny but to me it's a nice solid E/F
Your probably right Robbie - nice coin though
it's good to share opinions Steve
I am not necessarily right
but it's just another point of view on trying to grade via photos
the risk with photos is that the more unclear the photo is, the better the coin might look
and yep, it is a nice coin for the year
I reckon Aussie EF and PCGS AU55
ok time to rehash this old thread so thoughts on this please and sorry for so many pic's but thought I should take some on the angle as well as straight down :)
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Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='64253' dateline='1419408078'ok time to rehash this old thread so thoughts on this please and sorry for so many pic's but thought I should take some on the angle as well as straight down :)
Au55 or maybe 58
:yahoo: thanks echi, AU would be superb :)
borderline e/f from me (like an e/f-) - I use that sort of grading in my grading book
bit stained but nice enough AJ
Comparing your '23 to a PCGS AU55 (1924) that I'm holding I see your coins obverse is nicer than mine. Better 7th/8th, better mo etc. Yours has a bit more rim dings than mine and might not be as nice in the reverse (I think the green goblin will hold back the grade).
So better than EF and probably aUnc (55-58).
Yes I'm not a great fan of the green death Neal but it's hard finding coins that old that doesn't have it unless the coin has been squirrelled away, doesn't matter because it's one of the nicer old one's I have :)
gEF for the first coin IMO. The reverse rim has had a few knocks and the toning may be hiding a few field contacts. Same for the obverse although the rim is better, and the regalia, shoulder, mustache and brow are all touched off.
Very much the same for the second coin IMO.