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Non Numismatic Discussion => Forum Announcements and Rules => Topic started by: markn on May 17, 2013, 02:25:30 PM

Title: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: markn on May 17, 2013, 02:25:30 PM
We've decided that when we move to our new home this Sunday that we'll create at least one new forum that will NOT be hidden behind the forum login.  This means it will be publicly visible to anyone who happens upon the forum.  

Why Have Public Forums

To make this site more attractive to search engines and hopefully get some more members here who find it via search engines. It also opens up the possibility of running some advertising to help defray the costs of the forum.  This advertising would only be on the public forums and will only be visible to non-forum members.

It's important to realise  that all the existing content will still be secure behind the forum login.  Only content added to the public forums would be visible to non-members.  

What Will Be in the Public Forums

Right now our only idea has been for a public forum dedicated to announcing new releases from the RAM, Perth Mint, and possibly Australia Post.  We've got a forum member who is interested in maintaining this new public forum.

If you have any other ideas for a public forum we'd love to hear them.  Please nothing controversial though.

What Impact Will It Have On You?

Nothing really.  If you post in the public forum anyone will be able to see what you post and your forum name but they will not be able to view your forum profile.

Because some areas of the forum will be public you'll want to be careful what you say in these areas because it will be seen by anyone.  Consequently the moderators will likely wield a slightly bigger stick in those sections than we do right now.

I Hate the Idea

Let me know if you hate this idea and why.  Personally I think it's got some potential to keep things active around here and get some new blood posting on the boards.
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: markn on May 17, 2013, 02:31:25 PM
Ooo.  Ooo.  I just had an idea for a public forum.  A useful links/site forum.  Links to other interesting coin sites, calculators, auction sites etc.  Whaddya think?
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: trout on May 17, 2013, 02:38:29 PM
I say BRING IT ON :yahoo:
The exposure can only be good for the forum and
who knows we may awaken some of the "numismatic"
Sleeping giants :good:
The more members we have can only ADD to the
 diversity of the group :ok:
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: Australian coin on May 17, 2013, 02:47:20 PM
top tip, if I do the mints products, those peeps can pay you for custom advertising to put their site logos up, and link to there site :P
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: ausjack on May 17, 2013, 02:50:42 PM
the only thing is the advertising as that's one thing that really gave me the shits about ccf..probably ok as long as it doesn't go over the top. But personally I like the small friendly forum so I hope that doesn't change. See how it goes and if ya numbers drop off ya know to change back :)
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: Ozcoins on May 17, 2013, 03:33:22 PM
I think it is a good idea.
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: coxspau on May 17, 2013, 03:35:48 PM
I think it's a good thing as long as it doesn't dilute the small friendly forum referred to by ausjack.

The advertising will help to defray some of the costs associated with hosting the site, so again, that should be a good thing.

I like the idea about links, although the upkeep might take some doing. The ANDA website had a series of links, half of which didn't work after a while. Became a bugger as I could never remember which ones and always kept being directed to empty sites.
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: purplepennyhunter on May 17, 2013, 03:58:54 PM
Test the forum in it's new house (http://173.255.242.26/)

This is a sort of test of what the public internet user will see of our forum.

But if you log in then you'll see all our forum family stuff.
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: Australian coin on May 17, 2013, 04:00:50 PM
cool :), do you want me to get pics of them :P
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: purplepennyhunter on May 17, 2013, 04:07:22 PM
So you've looked AC? You mean my test thread about Black Caviar? All info over there will be lost after Sunday's rollout but you can test however you like over there.

We'll need to stick to new threads for each release and title them so they are easy to find in the searches.
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: Robster on May 17, 2013, 04:16:42 PM
Love the idea, safe, clever way of expansion.!!
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: purplepennyhunter on May 17, 2013, 04:27:38 PM
I have added some Black Caviar RAM pics to the gallery and into the new public test forum.
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: ausjack on May 17, 2013, 05:18:31 PM
Do you really want it that anyone (non members) can see the members list and gallery..just a thought as I don't think I'll use the gallery if that's the case and might be an idea for member that have a pic of them selves as avatar to change if it's going to be all public. Just thought I'd have a look at what you can see without being signed in :)
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: robbiegal on May 17, 2013, 05:22:23 PM
ok
I am an IT idiot

Jack - where is my gallery in the new forum?
I just went there but I can't 'see' it

please don't laugh at me ........  *sad face*
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: ausjack on May 17, 2013, 05:49:50 PM
all good robbie, it's right up the top just to the left of the search engine, members list, calender and help :good:
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: purplepennyhunter on May 17, 2013, 05:53:13 PM
Over on the right hand side up the top where it says "search" and "member list" and "calendar" there's "ïmage gallery". Click on that.

AJ will check on that with Markn, I don't like that either.

Check now AJ.
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: robbiegal on May 17, 2013, 06:00:06 PM
cheers
thanks guys - found them and had a quick look
to quote:

"Public albums for Australian pre-decimal coins. Any forum member can post an image here and all images will be visible to anyone."

question - so all the slack arsed ebay sellers who swipe other peoples pics can wander on over here - swipe our pics

copy, load ém up and sell ém on ebay??

hummmmm

though, I think I did read that mark has advised that you can keep your album 'private'??
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: purplepennyhunter on May 17, 2013, 06:11:43 PM
I'm still learning too. If you want your pics private keep them in your own user gallery.

We've thought about the idea that people will steal the images. I wonder if blanket public image watermarking would work or if Mark could only do that for everything. RAM or PM images are not ours though so we can't watermark those.
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: ausjack on May 17, 2013, 07:27:30 PM
Ooop's sorry, feedin me face :) ok had a quick look and couldn't get into members list so that's good but could still get into gallery and clicked on pic, comes up PP..fair enough you have your stuff tucked away safe and secure but for the other city people that don't have good security that have a gallery and a pic of them selves up and listing all our coins in different ways..eg showing errors, latest mail, fav coins etc. Just trying to think of security as it's ok for me livin in the bush as there's no member that'll addmit they come from anywhere near hear, the closest to me would be on the goldcoast and that's still a few hours away.

will let you know if I think of other things :good:

Oh and I don't really like the idea but we might have to bring in some rules like ccf where you have to have 250 posts to buy, tade or what ever..bloody riff raff, you've been doing an excellent job of keeping them out so far Mark :good:
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: Australian coin on May 17, 2013, 08:28:09 PM
ok maybe need some links to what you are talking about, I am not fond of writing up la di da stuff for everything and making it sound like a newspaper or blog article, I give the facts and pics you make of it what ya like, I don't talk anyone into thinking that a coin is the best thing in the world.
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: purplepennyhunter on May 17, 2013, 08:41:40 PM
Quote from: 'Australian coin' pid='15208' dateline='1368788289'ok maybe need some links to what you are talking about, I am not fond of writing up la di da stuff for everything and making it sound like a newspaper or blog article, I give the facts and pics you make of it what ya like, I don't talk anyone into thinking that a coin is the best thing in the world.

This is on the temporary test new forum, in the public section. Just facts.
Black Caviar (http://173.255.242.26/showthread.php?tid=1033)
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: ausjack on May 17, 2013, 08:58:15 PM
thought about making 2 sites then..I was really happy with the way things were/are..don't fix it if it ain't broke :winkextra: I can appreciate where your coming from but some time bigger isn't best as that's part of the reason why I left ccf, it was just to much for me and this has been a god send so touchwood it doesn't change to much :)
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: ausjack on May 17, 2013, 10:56:04 PM
if your changing this and that to push out to the public, recruit members, advertise etc etc isn't that pretty much changing everything so it's no longer this friendly little site..why does it have to be public..we've been doing ok so far with out all the hoohar, or so I was lead to believe but now I'm not so sure, so if anyone wants to start another priavte forum please yell out because if I wanted all this I'd go back to ccf or go to facebook or some other rubish public site..it's ok for you, I have had a chunk of brain taken out and now stuck on the DSP so I find it very hard to trust and I've built a few good relationships here so I really don't want destroyed what's taken so long to build :( I find it's good having a place where we can sort of have group discutions rather than sending emails to everyone all the time but if I have to resort back to that than so be it, just takes a bit of the fun out of collecting if you can't share with a few friends. And also my closest coin club is about 90km away so that's another reason why I like here and I think you'll find a few other members like trout are the same..this is our home and club wrapped up in one in a way.

Sorry for my 2 cents but better the devil ya know :)

Oh and PP and Mark have their blog and sales site and post on others so like I've said before I'll pay if I have to to keep it the same and especially if it doesn't cost much..I just can't do any of this my self other wise I would.
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: trout on May 18, 2013, 04:04:59 AM
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='15222' dateline='1368790095'thought about making 2 sites then..I was really happy with the way things were/are..don't fix it if it ain't broke :winkextra: I can appreciate where your coming from but some time bigger isn't best as that's part of the reason why I left ccf, it was just to much for me and this has been a god send so touchwood it doesn't change to much :)

I think your fears are unfounded AJ.
All the public part of the forum will be there for is to give people a "Taste" of the site, Not FULL access :ok:
To my understanding the "Heart" of the forum will remain exactly as it is now and new members will have to pass Mark and PP's scrutiny to get into the main part of the forum.
I would imagine that quite a few "Ratbags" have tried to gain membership of this forum since its inception 8 months ago and yet none of them have past scrutiny and that is why this site is so bloody good.
The simple fact that this is an Australian site is what makes so enjoyable , If some :Undesirable" started to throw his/her weight around in here I would imagine that we would all "close ranks" and sort those types out :diablo: :good:  
That is what we Aussie collectors do, I have noticed on CCF on many an occasion when one of our own is getting bagged there will be a whole bunch of the Aussie Members coming to help and defend them.
I very much doubt that our ACF will ever get as anal and politically correct as CCF .
All Mark is doing is making this forum more visible so that more people are aware of its existence :ok:
NOT opening the floodgates and letting all and sundry into the party.
So all you buggers thinking about abandoning ship, you can take your life jackets off and relax and enjoy what we have been given the opportunity to have.
This Ship is sailing along just fine and the Skipper isn't an idiot, we will simply be turning the lights on so people can see we are here :yahoo:
:wavemulticolor:
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: humpybong on May 18, 2013, 07:34:42 AM
Sounds good to me.

Had a look at it as well....how about making the start up and logo different so us old fellas will not get confused.
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: ausjack on May 18, 2013, 08:05:18 AM
there's a lot that I could say to all that but I couldn't give a toss any more, I wasn't around for it but if it goes the way of the last aussie site well so be it. I noticed the new sign on page is up already.
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: purplepennyhunter on May 18, 2013, 08:33:00 AM
I sense some people are panicking because we're talking about it lots. We're talking about it to get peoples opinions on what's good and what's not. At this stage not much will change unless you want it it to.

Changes at this stage are
1. New feature -Image Gallery. Use it or don't use it, it's a link up the top. It's meant to broaden the image possibilities for members here. CCF has some kind of image gallery for members

2. Creating a new section of threads down the bottom called "public forums".
Post there or don't post there, your choice.

The forum as you see it really won't change, please don't be scared.


The reason behind the second change is simply to help new collectors find us because at this stage they don't really have an avenue to do so. The forum is completely closed to non-members. Everyone who is here has found us through the grapevine of collectors who know collectors and info passed through the chain. Opening up a small portion of the forum for public view will hopefully entice some new blood in here and make this a more fun place to be.
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: Nevol on May 18, 2013, 08:53:30 AM
QuoteThe forum is completely closed to non-members. Opening up a small portion of the forum for public view will hopefully entice some new blood in here and make this a more fun place to be.
I see a second advantage in having this feature, and that is we can see the type of posts by non members in the Public Forum and if any of those posters apply for membership, we'll have a bit of an idea who they are and what they will bring to the forum.

We've been very lucky so far, have not had to do much weeding and I welcome the proposed changes.
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: robbiegal on May 18, 2013, 09:17:12 AM
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='15158' dateline='1368779406'cheers
thanks guys - found them and had a quick look
to quote:

"Public albums for Australian pre-decimal coins. Any forum member can post an image here and all images will be visible to anyone."

question - so all the slack arsed ebay sellers who swipe other peoples pics can wander on over here - swipe our pics

copy, load ém up and sell ém on ebay??

hummmmm

though, I think I did read that mark has advised that you can keep your album 'private'??

ok found my answer in another gallery  thread from Markn ;

 A note to those trying to upload images to the public albums that I have already created. Firstly, I have to approve all images uploaded to those albums. Secondly, those images will be publicly visible to anyone, you do not need to be a forum member to see them. Finally, I'd appreciate it if you could fill out the details along with the image. Including the country, year, denomination, grade etc. A description would be good too. The reasons for this will become apparent soon.
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: purplepennyhunter on May 18, 2013, 09:27:16 AM
Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='15249' dateline='1368833010'
QuoteThe forum is completely closed to non-members. Opening up a small portion of the forum for public view will hopefully entice some new blood in here and make this a more fun place to be.
I see a second advantage in having this feature, and that is we can see the type of posts by non members in the Public Forum and if any of those posters apply for membership, we'll have a bit of an idea who they are and what they will bring to the forum.

We've been very lucky so far, have not had to do much weeding and I welcome the proposed changes.

Nancy has taken on the role of approving new members and screening them as potential spammers first.

She's doing a smashing job (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-forum/nospamhere.gif)
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: robbiegal on May 18, 2013, 09:52:19 AM
Now I can't find the original information thread

robbie's summary:

moving house tomorrow in the wee hours of the morning
might/might not have some issues logging in but will be resolved within a day or so

okie  dokie


I guess all change is unsettling
and yes, I like the small community atmosphere here

but having said that, 224 members isn't exactly all that small!
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: markn on May 18, 2013, 09:55:46 AM
The original thread is here: http://www.australian-coins.net/showthread.php?tid=1074

I'd just like to re-emphasise that the changes made when we move servers are tiny.  Most people wont even notice them.  I am sure this time next week we'll all be wondering what the fuss was about.
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: Ozcoins on May 18, 2013, 04:19:07 PM
AJ.
I don't think anyone wants to lose the great "small friendly community" that we have here.
Try not to worry too much.
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: ausjack on May 19, 2013, 11:10:58 AM
not keen on these adds and mine seems just a tad slower but i think it might be my puta :(
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: markn on May 19, 2013, 11:27:57 AM
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='15381' dateline='1368927658'not keen on these adds and mine seems just a tad slower but i think it might be my puta :(

Good to see you made it AJ!  You should find the new server is quite a bit faster.  We're on a dedicated server now with more memory and cpu, the database is on the same server the web site is being hosted from, and the server center is about 1500km closer to Australia.
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: ausjack on May 19, 2013, 11:37:32 AM
few little glitches to work out here and there..mine really does seem a little slower, I'm not just saying that and you can't add a quick reply to your own post..I just tried and it didn't show so I had to type it again but I'm sure you'll work it out :)
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: markn on May 19, 2013, 11:38:15 AM
Test quick reply.

Edit: worked ok for me.  It looks like you can't reply to your own post though.  Did it do this before?
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: ausjack on May 19, 2013, 11:40:10 AM
few little glitches to work out here and there..mine really does seem a little slower, I'm not just saying that and you can't add a quick reply to your own post..I just tried and it didn't show so I had to type it again but I'm sure you'll work it out :)

and it keeps saying loading all the time with the funny little swirly thing..don't know if that help

the scroll up and down seem slugish..I hope you don't mind me trying to explain what I'm seeing and what it's doing, just hope it helps working these things out
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: robbiegal on May 19, 2013, 12:20:04 PM
testing quick reply for Jack :)

the quick reply worked but the little wheel kept going and going till I moved out of the thread

now it seems ok :)
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: ausjack on May 19, 2013, 12:35:00 PM
what about staying signed in..will this new one burn more of my bit thingies..should I be signing off all the time..I ask as I'm on very limited bit thingies so have to be careful other wise it slows my puta.

Try scolling up and down quick and see if yous is slugish and I'm really not likin the adds everywhere that weren't going to be here..ya loosin me sorry :(
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: purplepennyhunter on May 19, 2013, 12:37:28 PM
Stay signed in, won't make any difference.
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: Nevol on May 19, 2013, 12:50:22 PM
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='15395' dateline='1368932700'what about staying signed in..will this new one burn more of my bit thingies..should I be signing off all the time..I ask as I'm on very limited bit thingies so have to be careful other wise it slows my puta.

Try scolling up and down quick and see if yous is slugish and I'm really not likin the adds everywhere that weren't going to be here..ya loosin me sorry :(
:huh: I don't see any ads, so not too sure what the problem is there.
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: trout on May 19, 2013, 12:52:18 PM
WOW that was quick Mark :wavemulticolor:
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: ausjack on May 19, 2013, 12:54:42 PM
this is crap..I just typed all this in and it didn't come up :( and the adds are bloody everywhere at the top of each reply..why can't you just put all the adds on the title page and leave the forum section
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: markn on May 19, 2013, 01:02:00 PM
Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='15399' dateline='1368933882'this is crap..I just typed all this in and it didn't come up :( and the adds are bloody everywhere at the top of each reply..why can't you just put all the adds on the title page and leave the forum section

Can you see them now?
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: ausjack on May 19, 2013, 01:09:11 PM
Thank you very much Mark..I kept getting these on all posts (http://i43.tinypic.com/sem97s.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/1reky9.jpg)

tiny pic's works :)
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: purplepennyhunter on May 19, 2013, 01:11:35 PM
They're gone now AJ?

(it was a usergroup problem, the pesky 500 club)
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: trout on May 19, 2013, 01:14:40 PM
Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='15405' dateline='1368934895'They're gone now AJ?

(it was a usergroup problem, the pesky 500 club)
Nice to see you are wearing your badge now PP :good:
:laugh2: :diablo: :angel:
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: ausjack on May 19, 2013, 01:19:03 PM
Thank you :) while playing getting those pic's up I got this when I went back to tinypic's and clicked off it as I don't trut these things but wondering if I stuffed up..here's what they said I won but I didn't answer :( So did I really stuff up or are these things just big scams????
(http://i41.tinypic.com/e16ag0.jpg)
(http://i43.tinypic.com/30tmfwz.jpg)

PP got demoted as she lost stars as well :( lookat the pic I just put up with her post on it..yourgonna get in trouble Mark :mocking:
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: Goldseeker on May 19, 2013, 01:41:18 PM
I have just got onto the site and I must say, the screens are coming in like greased litening and everything is much faster.   I like it
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: trout on May 19, 2013, 05:21:07 PM
The new forum is working perfectly on my Iphone but not on my computer.
Is it just me.

Quote from: 'trout' pid='15439' dateline='1368949867'The new forum is working perfectly on my Iphone but not on my computer.
Is it just me.

No worries , working Now:angel:
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: robbiegal on May 19, 2013, 05:34:17 PM
I was getting the ads in each post this morning but they seem to be gone now too
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: ausjack on May 19, 2013, 06:07:51 PM
yep, ironing a few bugs out..well done Mark :good:
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: trout on May 19, 2013, 06:09:12 PM
Quote from: 'trout' pid='15439' dateline='1368949867'The new forum is working perfectly on my Iphone but not on my computer.
Is it just me.


Quote from: 'trout' pid='15439' dateline='1368949867'The new forum is working perfectly on my Iphone but not on my computer.
Is it just me.

No worries , working Now:angel:
It's doing it again message is;
HTTP 404 not found :dash1:
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: ausjack on May 19, 2013, 06:12:16 PM
oop's I spoke to soon sorry
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: trout on May 20, 2013, 05:08:28 AM
I emailed Mark regarding this problem and he told me it is probably my server.
the IPhone works perfect and if I connect using my pre paid Telstra dongle it works perfectly as well ( that's what I am using at the moment).
However when I log in using my bigpond wireless modem all turns to mud :dash1:
I need a dos command prompt to clean out my DNS Cache :ok:
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: markn on May 20, 2013, 07:26:56 AM
Hi Trout,

From a DOS window use this:

ipconfig /flushdns
Title: RE: New Forum - Some Public Forums
Post by: trout on May 20, 2013, 07:35:35 AM
Quote from: 'markn' pid='15512' dateline='1369000616'Hi Trout,

From a DOS window use this:

ipconfig /flushdns

WOOOHOOOO
success I rebooted after using that command and all is hunky dory:yahoo:
You are a bloody Legend Mate :good:
:wavemulticolor: